shame and scandal in the family.
What a performance, truly, amazing but so predictable that it's sad and laughable at the same time.
Let's start by saying that I miss Peck's odds once again and am dissapointed by that, surely he's not waiting for me to post my vinegar and vitriol?
Since he's to busy, I will post some thought, under a plausible header, because it was all woes and the result is an outright scandal in our little Pacers family.
I won't comment (yet) on Rosen's article (can you call it that?) that was mentioned in another thread, but make my own here.
First quarter, not that good, and the remainder downright deadly poor.
How come? Fatigue? No chance. "Off" day at the office? No chance. Bad players? No chance.
There are a few things happening, those few things are killing what little chemistry we had and doing a darned fine job of it, it's as simple as that.
This team has been in dissarray so long and so much that the "natural" pecking order has been disturbed so badly that despite the Ron Artest trade we did not heal yet.
Now some players are labelled "injury prone" without a definition of the word, so I decided to look it up, strangely enough no dictionary touches upon the word combination, but google (for now) is (still) our friend.
So it relates to sport, whoopee, and the most "injury-prone" bodypart is by far the knees, followed by the ankles. Something I would have never guessed
Then I found this little gem: "About 85 per cent of elite and recreational badminton players (!) are injured during an average year, 65 per cent of regular runners are hit by the injury bug, and 21 percent of walkers are afflicted (by definition, an 'injury' is a physical problem severe enough to force a reduction in training)."
And I found out that "injury prone" is usually a result of "wrong movement" by the sports-person. It can even be "reduced significantly" according to Vicon Peak, who £research" the player and advice changes in movement or ways of moving to reduce the chance of injury, often injuries seem to occur from "wrong basic movement"
Now all that leads to what I stated long time ago; IF a player is "injury prone" then the injury he has should be re-occurring to begin with, i.e. the same injury or a closely related injury patern should emerge.
Anyone of you willing on the bases of that to still call our players, or the two it is about mostly, JO and JT, injury prone is invited to prove their position other then by pointing to the amount of games missed. "bad luck" is easier to describe these injuries.
Sinusitis, despite what our residential quack says, is not something to take to lightly, but..... Tins was out for "flue like symptoms" which is a very natural occurrance and specially sports people have usually a lower tolerance then "normal" people, for various reasons.
So since it aint the flue and it aint his sinusses, it must be dope.
Oh and yeah, we know that for sure because those who come up with that are or used to be heavy users who recognise the symptoms OR were present while it happened........
If that doesn't stick well then it has to be the boozer they went on last night (while in Memphis.............)
What this does is only showing that this board is just as dysfunctional as the team, a shambles.
So back to basketball and why the team is in shambles. Ready for some bashing?
At this moment in time I am sure that all practise time is concentrating on getting JO, Peja and Tins synched, that means that the current lineup will be changed, (no surprise) and NO I do not know this for sure, but it is so logic that it hurts, because they are the only 3 starters for the post season barring injury you can be sure of.
AJ played like AJ last night, that much was clear, neither of our 1st two PG's is a "shooting" PG despite what some people say, and they mainly run the plays Rick calls, so if they shoot, it is usually a standing order.
Jeff was not really Jeff, I was not impressed with his defense last night, but then again, everyone after the first 10 minutes seemed to get out of position once or twice to often.
Polly was Polly, hard working -eof-
Jax, was he there? not on defense at least, he was just not available for anything it seemed, his attitude is costly, no matter what you say, he does not come to play if it is not his ball, and when it is not his ball he also refuses to play defense.
jax is one of those players that has "grown" into the "wrong" role. Originally signed to be the 6th man at best he was pushed in a starters role at SF because of the Artest suspension and upon failing to find an affordable SG starter, he was "moved" into the starting SG role at the beginning of the year.
Then his homey threw a socket wrench into a running engine and he made a choice to "stay with it" by voting him off as well but covered his "image" by supporting his mate in public. One can only assume this does/did not go down to well with the rest of the team.
Comments of late of players urging other players to play basketball and stop (re-)acting towards referees are tale-telling of more then Hulk's antics, they go deeper, all the way to Jax.
Peja is absolutely the best replacement money could buy for Ron Artest, but like Reggie he is somewhat dependant on team movement, screens and crisp passing, something lacking without Tinsley.
He did not hit great shots, but I must move Peja in the "if all else fails I can not carry it alone" category.
Then the "second coming" came into the game, with a performance that was to say the least nauseating. If that is described as "being ready when called upon" then we need to redefine some books and history, can I please have 10 drunk, stoned, injury prone, pouting and injury faking PG's in exchange for whatever you want?
Throwing a no-look pass behind a player and then acting pissed off with that player for not paying attention to you was the best reason I've seen in some time for jacking a player from the line-up. But combine that attitude with some of the (international) press clipping we were allowed to share around here previously and you have another disaster chemistry wise on a team that is brittle to say the least to begin with.
Hulk had another poor "shooting" night, but grabbed a decent amount of rebounds, and usedhis body and did not receive a concussion this time, so that is called progress, though I am still under the impression that a clean block is not a foul, the zebras do not agree with me, so I will try and show a better attitude then David and shut up about it.
Yes another one the "team" is unhappy with, David, shut up and play, your attitude maybe a mirror of Jax' at times, you are not going to win anything with it, so leave it already.
Danny, when his shot didn't want to do what it usually does, and after tweaking his ankle one could not expect anything from him, perhaps except if it happens again being called "injury prone".
Fred, 0-7 (which seems to be a regular number lately for him) is pathetic, I know he's playing with a hand injury but perhaps he should hold on the shot attempts and drive and dish some more, in my opinoin he favours the injured hand to much and will only be a "body" while that heals, I do hope however that his mental state does not suffer from it.
In short, this team has clear chemistry problems, and whether they are stemming from overtalkative SG's pouting PG's or just stem from people who know what is happening in practise and fear for their minutes and position is not really important.
I predict (ok ok go out on a limb) to say that JO's return will signal JT's return to the starting lineup and that besides Peja all starter positions at this moment in time are up for grabs. Rightfully so I would add.
And no, I do not advocate wholesale changes, Jax and perhaps Saras out will most likely do more good then many realize.
But barring injury illness from JT I do not see Saras back on the floor soon, and I certainly would not be surprised to see Jax on the bench as well.
Perhaps it really is time for JO to come back and kick some *** on the team itself.
God knows we can certainly use him on the court right now.
What a performance, truly, amazing but so predictable that it's sad and laughable at the same time.
Let's start by saying that I miss Peck's odds once again and am dissapointed by that, surely he's not waiting for me to post my vinegar and vitriol?
Since he's to busy, I will post some thought, under a plausible header, because it was all woes and the result is an outright scandal in our little Pacers family.
I won't comment (yet) on Rosen's article (can you call it that?) that was mentioned in another thread, but make my own here.
First quarter, not that good, and the remainder downright deadly poor.
How come? Fatigue? No chance. "Off" day at the office? No chance. Bad players? No chance.
There are a few things happening, those few things are killing what little chemistry we had and doing a darned fine job of it, it's as simple as that.
This team has been in dissarray so long and so much that the "natural" pecking order has been disturbed so badly that despite the Ron Artest trade we did not heal yet.
Now some players are labelled "injury prone" without a definition of the word, so I decided to look it up, strangely enough no dictionary touches upon the word combination, but google (for now) is (still) our friend.
So it relates to sport, whoopee, and the most "injury-prone" bodypart is by far the knees, followed by the ankles. Something I would have never guessed
Then I found this little gem: "About 85 per cent of elite and recreational badminton players (!) are injured during an average year, 65 per cent of regular runners are hit by the injury bug, and 21 percent of walkers are afflicted (by definition, an 'injury' is a physical problem severe enough to force a reduction in training)."
And I found out that "injury prone" is usually a result of "wrong movement" by the sports-person. It can even be "reduced significantly" according to Vicon Peak, who £research" the player and advice changes in movement or ways of moving to reduce the chance of injury, often injuries seem to occur from "wrong basic movement"
Now all that leads to what I stated long time ago; IF a player is "injury prone" then the injury he has should be re-occurring to begin with, i.e. the same injury or a closely related injury patern should emerge.
Anyone of you willing on the bases of that to still call our players, or the two it is about mostly, JO and JT, injury prone is invited to prove their position other then by pointing to the amount of games missed. "bad luck" is easier to describe these injuries.
Sinusitis, despite what our residential quack says, is not something to take to lightly, but..... Tins was out for "flue like symptoms" which is a very natural occurrance and specially sports people have usually a lower tolerance then "normal" people, for various reasons.
So since it aint the flue and it aint his sinusses, it must be dope.
Oh and yeah, we know that for sure because those who come up with that are or used to be heavy users who recognise the symptoms OR were present while it happened........
If that doesn't stick well then it has to be the boozer they went on last night (while in Memphis.............)
What this does is only showing that this board is just as dysfunctional as the team, a shambles.
So back to basketball and why the team is in shambles. Ready for some bashing?
At this moment in time I am sure that all practise time is concentrating on getting JO, Peja and Tins synched, that means that the current lineup will be changed, (no surprise) and NO I do not know this for sure, but it is so logic that it hurts, because they are the only 3 starters for the post season barring injury you can be sure of.
AJ played like AJ last night, that much was clear, neither of our 1st two PG's is a "shooting" PG despite what some people say, and they mainly run the plays Rick calls, so if they shoot, it is usually a standing order.
Jeff was not really Jeff, I was not impressed with his defense last night, but then again, everyone after the first 10 minutes seemed to get out of position once or twice to often.
Polly was Polly, hard working -eof-
Jax, was he there? not on defense at least, he was just not available for anything it seemed, his attitude is costly, no matter what you say, he does not come to play if it is not his ball, and when it is not his ball he also refuses to play defense.
jax is one of those players that has "grown" into the "wrong" role. Originally signed to be the 6th man at best he was pushed in a starters role at SF because of the Artest suspension and upon failing to find an affordable SG starter, he was "moved" into the starting SG role at the beginning of the year.
Then his homey threw a socket wrench into a running engine and he made a choice to "stay with it" by voting him off as well but covered his "image" by supporting his mate in public. One can only assume this does/did not go down to well with the rest of the team.
Comments of late of players urging other players to play basketball and stop (re-)acting towards referees are tale-telling of more then Hulk's antics, they go deeper, all the way to Jax.
Peja is absolutely the best replacement money could buy for Ron Artest, but like Reggie he is somewhat dependant on team movement, screens and crisp passing, something lacking without Tinsley.
He did not hit great shots, but I must move Peja in the "if all else fails I can not carry it alone" category.
Then the "second coming" came into the game, with a performance that was to say the least nauseating. If that is described as "being ready when called upon" then we need to redefine some books and history, can I please have 10 drunk, stoned, injury prone, pouting and injury faking PG's in exchange for whatever you want?
Throwing a no-look pass behind a player and then acting pissed off with that player for not paying attention to you was the best reason I've seen in some time for jacking a player from the line-up. But combine that attitude with some of the (international) press clipping we were allowed to share around here previously and you have another disaster chemistry wise on a team that is brittle to say the least to begin with.
Hulk had another poor "shooting" night, but grabbed a decent amount of rebounds, and usedhis body and did not receive a concussion this time, so that is called progress, though I am still under the impression that a clean block is not a foul, the zebras do not agree with me, so I will try and show a better attitude then David and shut up about it.
Yes another one the "team" is unhappy with, David, shut up and play, your attitude maybe a mirror of Jax' at times, you are not going to win anything with it, so leave it already.
Danny, when his shot didn't want to do what it usually does, and after tweaking his ankle one could not expect anything from him, perhaps except if it happens again being called "injury prone".
Fred, 0-7 (which seems to be a regular number lately for him) is pathetic, I know he's playing with a hand injury but perhaps he should hold on the shot attempts and drive and dish some more, in my opinoin he favours the injured hand to much and will only be a "body" while that heals, I do hope however that his mental state does not suffer from it.
In short, this team has clear chemistry problems, and whether they are stemming from overtalkative SG's pouting PG's or just stem from people who know what is happening in practise and fear for their minutes and position is not really important.
I predict (ok ok go out on a limb) to say that JO's return will signal JT's return to the starting lineup and that besides Peja all starter positions at this moment in time are up for grabs. Rightfully so I would add.
And no, I do not advocate wholesale changes, Jax and perhaps Saras out will most likely do more good then many realize.
But barring injury illness from JT I do not see Saras back on the floor soon, and I certainly would not be surprised to see Jax on the bench as well.
Perhaps it really is time for JO to come back and kick some *** on the team itself.
God knows we can certainly use him on the court right now.
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