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    I am officially fed up with Stephen Jackson. He was 1-8 from the field in 27+ minutes of work. He will have a good game here and there but he is MUCH too streaky for my liking. I hope he is gone during the off season. He is a very good defender but his streaky shooting and passing ability (or lack there of) are killing me. I say trade him for a draft pick and maybe a solid backup. Besides, I am comfortable with our lineup without him

    C Jeff Foster, David Harrison, Scot Pollard
    PF Jermaine O'Neal, Danny Granger, Scot Pollard, Austin Croshere
    SF Danny Granger, Peja, Austin Croshere
    SG Peja, Fred Jones, Sarunas
    PG Jamaal Tinsley, Sarunas, AJ

    Add in whatever we get in the draft or trade and , healthy, that is a contending team.

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    : Woah....That is news...someone fed up with Jax!
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    : Woah....That is news...someone fed up with Jax!

    I liked Jax, it just took tonight for me to realize how wrong he is for our team.

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    I agree about Jack, but...

    Peja at the 2?

    Cro at the 3?

    Put out your hand...

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    Cro at the 3?
    Wow, missed that. Plus it's not a given we get Pollard back.

    There's no doubt about it, we're really going to have to shuffle the deck this summer.
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    Not sure I like Peja at SG.

    Scratch that. I'm sure I don't like Peja at SG.
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    I give him a pass tonight. He's been playing through a lot of injuries and he was physically exhausted. The schedule caught up with him tonight

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    I give him a pass tonight. He's been playing through a lot of injuries and he was physically exhausted. The schedule caught up with him tonight
    What about the other 23874257984984651646789 times?

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    What about the other 23874257984984651646789 times?

    As I said I'm giving him a pass tonight

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    As I said I'm giving him a pass tonight
    Does that pass work like a "get out of jail free" card?

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    Does that pass work like a "get out of jail free" card?

    It is more like a library pass in high school.

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    What about the other 23874257984984651646789 times?

    thats what I am talking about!

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    I am officially fed up with Stephen Jackson. He was 1-8 from the field in 27+ minutes of work. He will have a good game here and there but he is MUCH too streaky for my liking. I hope he is gone during the off season. He is a very good defender but his streaky shooting and passing ability (or lack there of) are killing me. I say trade him for a draft pick and maybe a solid backup. Besides, I am comfortable with our lineup without him

    C Jeff Foster, David Harrison, Scot Pollard
    PF Jermaine O'Neal, Danny Granger, Scot Pollard, Austin Croshere
    SF Danny Granger, Peja, Austin Croshere
    SG Peja, Fred Jones, Sarunas
    PG Jamaal Tinsley, Sarunas, AJ

    Add in whatever we get in the draft or trade and , healthy, that is a contending team.
    The good thing tonight is that RC didn't leave him on the floor when it was evident he was off. Now he may be injured since I think he's been playing hurt. Either way it worked to our benefit tonight. Trade him as long as we get something that helps us. Now as far as your contending line-up. Foster can play C if necessary but I think he's a PF. Also, I'm sorry but I just don't agree with this idea that Peja can succesfully play SG. He'll get torched on D. And I don't think playing he and DG simultaneously helps with the idea that DG will play the opposing 2 defensively. Granger is too good around the hoop to have running around the perimeter even thought I'll grant you he could do a decent job out there on D. This line of thinking leads me to believe Peja may be expendable. Seems to me if we're going to make moves including Jack we need to get some reinforcements at the 2. I also think our PG spot is far from resovled due to JT's chronic fragility. AJ may be able to offer some minutes at 2 like he did tonight. Fred is a good player but I can't forsee him as anything more than a top 6th man candidate.

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    You read my mind, D-BONE.

    Didnt someone say that its not a good idea to play Jermaine O'Neal and Jeff Foster at the same time? Jeff's been playing pretty good at PF. IMO, Scott or Harrison should be the starting C. Sadly, Austin would be the odd man out.
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    You read my mind, D-BONE.

    Didnt someone say that its not a good idea to play Jermaine O'Neal and Jeff Foster at the same time? Jeff's been playing pretty good at PF. IMO, Scott or Harrison should be the starting C. Sadly, Austin would be the odd man out.
    We have several odd men out. Austin will be pretty tradable, so that's not a problem. If Saras can improve any by next year, then AJ might also be the odd man out.

    Let's say we re-sign Pollard and Jones but not Peja. We still need a third-string center and a backup SF.
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    I am too but we're pretty much stuck with him right now.

    He's so rigid, he's not very fluid at all for a SG.
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    I am too but we're pretty much stuck with him right now.

    He's so rigid, he's not very fluid at all for a SG.
    He's better as a SF, honestly.

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    He's better as a SF, honestly.
    I agree. He played pretty well when matched up against Prince last year in the DET series.

    His saving grace with me is that he does well in the playoffs.
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    I will reiterate about Jack that TPTB had to know what they were getting with him as far as his streaky scorer modus operandi. I mean I was aware what type of player he was. Unfortunately, he's been thrust into a position where that is front and center. I don't know the status of his sitting the second half. Any info on that? I suspect it was injury-related. Anyway, he appeared to be highly vocal encouraging the team down the stretch. This is what I find redeeming amongst his drawbacks. I honestly think he really plays hard and is generally well received by his teammates. In a sixth man or 3rd or 4th option role, assuming he'd go along with it, he would likely be much more tolerable to the general PD populace. How feasible is it we can move him? And for something of value to us?

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    As long as Rick Carlisle is Coach of the Pacers get used to mediocrity. If he were such a great coach why did Detroit let him walk?

    I normally would never think twice about anything Ron Artest had to say, but when he said that practices with Carlisle were soft, I wondered if that might be the reason why guys walk up the court and are two steps slow.

    Steve is a streaky scorer, but I think he would fare better in a different system!

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    I will reiterate about Jack that TPTB had to know what they were getting with him as far as his streaky scorer modus operandi. I mean I was aware what type of player he was. Unfortunately, he's been thrust into a position where that is front and center. I don't know the status of his sitting the second half. Any info on that? I suspect it was injury-related. Anyway, he appeared to be highly vocal encouraging the team down the stretch. This is what I find redeeming amongst his drawbacks. I honestly think he really plays hard and is generally well received by his teammates. In a sixth man or 3rd or 4th option role, assuming he'd go along with it, he would likely be much more tolerable to the general PD populace. How feasible is it we can move him? And for something of value to us?
    D-Bone, I'd read more of your posts if you added the paragraph weapon to your arsenal. For instance:

    I will reiterate about Jack that TPTB had to know what they were getting with him as far as his streaky scorer modus operandi. I mean I was aware what type of player he was. Unfortunately, he's been thrust into a position where that is front and center.

    I don't know the status of his sitting the second half. Any info on that? I suspect it was injury-related.

    Anyway, he appeared to be highly vocal encouraging the team down the stretch. This is what I find redeeming amongst his drawbacks. I honestly think he really plays hard and is generally well received by his teammates.

    In a sixth man or 3rd or 4th option role, assuming he'd go along with it, he would likely be much more tolerable to the general PD populace. How feasible is it we can move him? And for something of value to us?

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