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Whether your are a long standing forum member or whether you have just registered today, it's a good idea to read and review the rules below so that you have a very good idea of what to expect when you come to Pacers Digest.

A quick note to new members: Your posts will not immediately show up when you make them. An administrator has to approve at least your first post before the forum software will later upgrade your account to the status of a fully-registered member. This usually happens within a couple of hours or so after your post(s) is/are approved, so you may need to be a little patient at first.

Why do we do this? So that it's more difficult for spammers (be they human or robot) to post, and so users who are banned cannot immediately re-register and start dousing people with verbal flames.

Below are the rules of Pacers Digest. After you have read them, you will have a very good sense of where we are coming from, what we expect, what we don't want to see, and how we react to things.

Rule #1

Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:

"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"

"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"

"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"

"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"

"He/she is just delusional"

"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"

"I'm going to take a moment to point and / laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*"

"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good? "

In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.

We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.

There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.

Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.

In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!

All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.

Rule #2

If the actions of an administrator inspire you to make a comment, criticism, or express a concern about it, there is a wrong place and a couple of right places to do so.

The wrong place is to do so in the original thread in which the administrator took action. For example, if a post gets an infraction, or a post gets deleted, or a comment within a larger post gets clipped out, in a thread discussing Paul George, the wrong thing to do is to distract from the discussion of Paul George by adding your off topic thoughts on what the administrator did.

The right places to do so are:

A) Start a thread about the specific incident you want to talk about on the Feedback board. This way you are able to express yourself in an area that doesn't throw another thread off topic, and this way others can add their two cents as well if they wish, and additionally if there's something that needs to be said by the administrators, that is where they will respond to it.

B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.

If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.

Rule #3

If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.

When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:

A) Any post they make will be completely invisible as you scroll through a thread.

B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.

To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!

Rule #4

Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.

Rule #5

When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.

An example:

If I copy and paste an article from the Indianapolis Star website, I would post something like this:

http://www.linktothearticlegoeshere.com/article
Title of the Article
Author's Name
Indianapolis Star

Rule #6

We cannot tolerate illegal videos on Pacers Digest. This means do not share any links to them, do not mention any websites that host them or link to them, do not describe how to find them in any way, and do not ask about them. Posts doing anything of the sort will be removed, the offenders will be contacted privately, and if the problem becomes habitual, you will be suspended, and if it still persists, you will probably be banned.

The legal means of watching or listening to NBA games are NBA League Pass Broadband (for US, or for International; both cost money) and NBA Audio League Pass (which is free). Look for them on NBA.com.

Rule #7

Provocative statements in a signature, or as an avatar, or as the 'tagline' beneath a poster's username (where it says 'Member' or 'Administrator' by default, if it is not altered) are an unwanted distraction that will more than likely be removed on sight. There can be shades of gray to this, but in general this could be something political or religious that is likely going to provoke or upset people, or otherwise something that is mean-spirited at the expense of a poster, a group of people, or a population.

It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).

We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).

However, once the discussion seems to be more/mostly about the political issues instead of the sports figure or his specific situation, the thread is usually closed.

Rule #8

We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.

Rule #9

Generally speaking, we try to be a "PG-13" rated board, and we don't want to see sexual content or similarly suggestive content. Vulgarity is a more muddled issue, though again we prefer things to lean more towards "PG-13" than "R". If we feel things have gone too far, we will step in.

Rule #10

We like small signatures, not big signatures. The bigger the signature, the more likely it is an annoying or distracting signature.

Rule #11

Do not advertise anything without talking about it with the administrators first. This includes advertising with your signature, with your avatar, through private messaging, and/or by making a thread or post.
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What TV Show Did You Last Watch

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  • Re: What TV Show Did You Last Watch

    Originally posted by bellisimo View Post
    Coming to the end of season 2 of Men of a Certain Age...I really like this show and look forward to the upcoming episodes.
    Good luck finding upcoming episodes...
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...n-a-age-212091
    This is the darkest timeline.

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    • Re: What TV Show Did You Last Watch

      Season 17 of Top Gear just started running last night on BBC America. Its about time. Love that show. I've been watching the American version on History Channel as well. Pretty funny so far this 2nd season.
      You can't get champagne from a garden hose.

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      • Re: What TV Show Did You Last Watch

        Originally posted by bellisimo View Post
        caught the latest episode of Entourage...only like 3 episodes left and they're also just going through the motions...how do they expect to finish this show?!
        Well they are making the movie still so who knows how the decide to end the tv series. I am enjoying this season though. Feels like they need more than 3 episodes to finish it though.


        Originally posted by avoidingtheclowns View Post
        Good luck finding upcoming episodes...
        http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...n-a-age-212091
        Damn, I really enjoyed that show.

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        • Re: What TV Show Did You Last Watch

          Originally posted by avoidingtheclowns View Post
          Good luck finding upcoming episodes...
          http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...n-a-age-212091

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          • Re: What TV Show Did You Last Watch

            they're trying to keep hope alive...seeing how networks don't really care about this it feels like its going to be futile...but maybe worth a shot?

            https://www.facebook.com/SaveMenOfACertainAge

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            • Re: What TV Show Did You Last Watch

              Watched the first 3 episodes of Rome - great show so far...not sure how it holds up the rest of the way - seems like a solid script that shouldn't have been cancelled...

              EDIT - ah googled the reason and the cost of production was through the roof with this one!
              Last edited by bellisimo; 08-26-2011, 10:11 AM.

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              • Re: What TV Show Did You Last Watch

                Louie
                Follow me at @Bluejbgold

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                • Re: What TV Show Did You Last Watch

                  Anyone else watch Wilfred on F/X?

                  I've watch 3 or 4 episodes and I still don't know what to think. It is different, it is entertaining, and yet I find myself asking why am I watching this weird show.

                  What about Shark Tank? I love that show
                  Last edited by Unclebuck; 08-26-2011, 04:00 PM.

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                  • Re: What TV Show Did You Last Watch

                    I watched the pilot of Wilfred, but didn't feel like watching it past that. It wasn't bad, but it just didn't do enough for me, I guess.

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                    • Re: What TV Show Did You Last Watch

                      Originally posted by bellisimo View Post
                      they're trying to keep hope alive...seeing how networks don't really care about this it feels like its going to be futile...but maybe worth a shot?

                      https://www.facebook.com/SaveMenOfACertainAge

                      Sorry belli. I enjoyed the show quite a bit too, but it happens - often with excellent shows (I'm still not over people completely ignoring FX's Terriers...stupid).



                      (via Deadline)

                      ‘Men Of A Certain Age’ Creators End Efforts To Find New Home For Canceled Series

                      By NELLIE ANDREEVA | Friday August 26, 2011 @ 6:40pm PDT



                      Men of a Certain Age is officially dead. Following the dramedy’s cancellation by TNT, series creators Ray Romano and Mike Royce had shopped the series around. Now they took to the “Save Men of a Certain Age” Facebook page, whose online petition has garnered more than 10,000 signatures, to announce that those efforts have been unsuccessful and they are reluctantly throwing in the towel. Here is Romano and Royce’s gracious open letter to fans titled Hold Your Head Up:
                      Hi folks,

                      Sorry I haven’t been in touch. Unfortunately there’s been nothing to report. And at this point, since we want to be straight with you guys, I have to tell you that we’ve kind of reached the end of the road. Hard to admit, but it’s true.

                      If you can think of a network, we called them. Of course, “Men of a Certain Age” doesn’t really belong on certain networks. But we called them too. We called everybody. We tried online, satellite, alternate content providers, corporate sponsorship, Taxi TV, filmstrips… everything. We’ve exhausted every possibility and then some.

                      I was certainly hoping – actually, naively expecting a different outcome. I thought somebody would pick us up. Ray and I feel strongly that there are places where MOACA would not only be an excellent fit, but a home run. But we couldn’t persuade others to see it that way. And at a certain point, you gotta move on.

                      Sure, a miracle could still happen somehow. So please don’t “unlike” this page or unsign the petition. It’s still good to be able to show the world how much you guys care about the show.

                      We can’t thank all you enough. So many of you have worked your asses off to help us find the show a home. To see the support continue to pour in now weeks and weeks later is really incredible.

                      It’s also hard to express how grateful we are to the awesomely talented 200+ people who made the show. The cast and the crew were not only the best but made it a joy to come to work each day.

                      And we also want to thank TNT. I know it’s natural to look at it like “they’re the ones who cancelled it,” but a more accurate viewpoint is “they’re the ones who put it on.” Honestly, the notion that a show about the lives of three 50 year olds was on television at all in this day and age is a miracle. It shouldn’t be, but it is. On top of that TNT gave us the rare opportunity to do the show the way we wanted.

                      The end result is, we’re proud of the work, proud of the critical response and mostly proud that the show seems to have secured a deep place in people’s hearts that isn’t always reached. Like some of you, we feel a little like we’ve lost a friend. But the good news is, the 22 episodes live on. They even end in a good place (if too soon).

                      So think of us as not as a cancelled show but a “mini-series by accident.”

                      Because really that’s our biggest hope: if you are a fan, turn other people on to it. We want it to live on. Hey, for better or for worse, the ratings tell us there are plenty of people out there who haven’t seen “Men of a Certain Age.” We hope they check it out.

                      Thanks, and see you on the hill.

                      —Mike Royce & Ray Romano
                      This is the darkest timeline.

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                      • Re: What TV Show Did You Last Watch

                        Originally posted by Constellations View Post
                        Louie
                        Love love love Louie. Each episode I watch, I find myself absolutely shocked that something like this is even allowed on television (in the best way possible). I'm not sure if anyone has ever had the independence that Louis CK has (he's is left alone, essentially, to write/direct/act/edit/produce the show and John Langraff/FX involves itself very little) but it's a model I hope will be repeated.

                        Originally posted by Unclebuck View Post
                        Anyone else watch Wilfred on F/X?

                        I've watch 3 or 4 episodes and I still don't know what to think. It is different, it is entertaining, and yet I find myself asking why am I watching this weird show.
                        I've only seen a few episodes and enjoy it enough but it's hardly appointment viewing. Makes for a nice pairing with Louie, though.
                        This is the darkest timeline.

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                        • Re: What TV Show Did You Last Watch

                          Originally posted by avoidingtheclowns View Post
                          Love love love Louie. Each episode I watch, I find myself absolutely shocked that something like this is even allowed on television (in the best way possible). I'm not sure if anyone has ever had the independence that Louis CK has (he's is left alone, essentially, to write/direct/act/edit/produce the show and John Langraff/FX involves itself very little) but it's a model I hope will be repeated.
                          Give Matt and Trey some credit with South Park. Sans the Muhammad ********, they have pretty much free reign to do whatever they want. Though their clout mostly comes from saving the network. C.K. can do what he likes because the show is relatively successful and very cheap to produce. It's more expensive and lengthier than a (short film) web series, but I could definitely see it existing in that setting. But, yeah, totally agree with you. It's the finest crafted show on TV right now. Obsessively hyperbolic, Simmons-esque write-up from Chuck Klosterman here.
                          You Got The Tony!!!!!!

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                          • Re: What TV Show Did You Last Watch

                            Strike Back.

                            New cinemax series. Fills the void for me that 24 left. So far, it's pretty good.

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                            • Re: What TV Show Did You Last Watch

                              Hoarders on Netflix:

                              Oh man, I don't know if I should feel bad for watching this, but you can't look away. Spooky because you suddenly start getting the urge to clean. Guess that's a good thing.

                              It is also good that by the second season they do give every person a therapist. These are people with serious issues in need of real treatment, not just derision.

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                              • Re: What TV Show Did You Last Watch

                                Going to watch episode 16 of season 9 of CSI: Las Vegas.

                                Found out Taylor Swift is in it

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