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    Yes...And it's rather unfortunate.

    We also earned the right to pay former VP Candidate and Crossing Over host John Edwards $1 million this year.
    Well, actually.. we got Keith McLeod for the first round draft pick given that line of reasoning... heh.

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    Considering Jose was willing to trade Jack and a 1st round pick for a 2nd round pick, Jack and a 1st for Troy Murphy ain't too shabby.
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    Considering Jose was willing to trade Jack and a 1st round pick for a 2nd round pick, Jack and a 1st for Troy Murphy ain't too shabby.
    My thought exactly.
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    Dammit UB. It took me a couple of munitues to realise this thread was a year old. I was so very confused.

    I think it is all working out OK. WOuld love to still have the pick, but I think that is being way overrated.

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    Which cost much less than that, because the NBA picks up part of that.
    I don't think the NBA is picking up part of John Edwards salary. He hasn't been in the league to qualify as a veteran.

    Jackson and a first for Murphy? That would have been okay with me. I wanted the Jackster moved on badly enough to give up that pick.

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    I dont get everyones love affair with Ike. Believe me Im a big fan of his, Im studying at his alma mater right now, but he just doesn't fit in with this team. And I beleive hes going to have better averages than hes is getting right now (remember he got a late start and is still a rookie.) But he is an undersized 4, which right now is our only position that we are fully stocked at. Everyone complains about Fred being too small to be a shooting guard, but size is a LOT more important for a power forward than a 2 guard.

    Granted, we could play JO at the 5 and Ike at the 4, but JO is a lot more effecient when he plays the 4. And that frontline would get pushed around a lot by other teams.

    Now if you wanted one of the small forwards from GS, do you really think any of them are better than Peja? And if so, are either of them worth giving up another player plus Ron for?

    I say no to both those questions...
    First I prefer Murphy

    hmm one word about undersized power fowards.. Sir Charles.... still he is a little undersized but if I am not mistaken plays taller due to a large wing span. I hope it is years away from him being a starter but he can be a dependable back up to JO..and sometimes play in rotation with JO depending upon match ups.. and eventually reach the level of say a McDyess.
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    Default Re: If Peja deal fell through, G. State was ready to increase their offer

    Other undersized PF?

    Malik Rose, Brand (small hands so lets trade him for this Tyson Chandler guy)

    What others? Battier played PF in college but made the transition pretty good (not saying that is what Ike will do)

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    I find it bizarre that people think Ike cannot be a solid PF. He is listed at the same size as Elton Brand (6'8" 255lbs.), who is a flat out all star.

    The big deal with Ike is his wingspan of 7' 3 1/2" and amazing standing reach of over 9'. Here is an interesting link: http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1004

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    I find it bizarre that people think Ike cannot be a solid PF. He is listed at the same size as Elton Brand (6'8" 255lbs.), who is a flat out all star.

    The big deal with Ike is his wingspan of 7' 3 1/2" and amazing standing reach of over 9'. Here is an interesting link: http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1004
    Not to mention that Boozer is the same size, and Ike is larger than other guys that are a couple of inches taller. He is about average for a PF. It isn't how big you are, it's how big you play. There are plenty of tall guys that don't play big. Hopefully Ike can.

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    There are plenty of tall guys that don't play big.
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    Well, if we had origionally traded Artest to Golden State in a simillar deal that included Jackson they could still ride together. In that sense, Donnie did all sports entertainment fans wrong.
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    it's all good at least we got rid of Jack and Runi. I liked Runi but he was indeed a chemistry prob for our team given the coach we have and what he wanted Runi to do. one last piece to move. if we get MelMel out for a real PG that distributes the ball, wont turn it over and can defend, we'll be good.

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    There are plenty of tall guys that don't play big. Hopefully Ike can.
    Yes, Troy Murphy is a very small 6'11" guy. No doubt Ike plays bigger.

    But, what about David Harrison and his T-Rex arms? He's huge and can block shots because he can sky, but I bet his wingspan and standing reach are less than Ike's.

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    Yes, Troy Murphy is a very small 6'11" guy. No doubt Ike plays bigger.

    But, what about David Harrison and his T-Rex arms? He's huge and can block shots because he can sky, but I bet his wingspan and standing reach are less than Ike's.
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    There is nothing more overrated in the game of basketball than the height of players. I wish they didn't even list the heights. Wingspan is is a little more important - you have tol you see a player on the court

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