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    Default Re: If Peja deal fell through, G. State was ready to increase their offer

    Dunleavy isn't worth his contract right now, sure.

    However, its about supply and demand.

    Bird wants to resign Peja at all costs. Peja knows Bird wants to resign him at all costs. Those two factors will combine to get Peja a pretty hefty salary, IMO.

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    If Pietrus isn't in the deal, it wasn't worth doin. I'm not quite as high on Doigu as someo f you.
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    Default Re: If Peja deal fell through, G. State was ready to increase their offer

    Diogu makes no sense for our team unless we have plans on having JO at full-time center. Dunleavy's contract sucks. The only way I would have considered this deal is if Pietrus was involved. But it's quite obvious that outside shooting is something we needed to compliment JO and spread the floor a bit. How do you think Diogu help us? Somebody please explain this. I watch him almost every game and just don't see how he fits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unclebuck
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    Can I ask a question that I fully expect to be laughed at.

    Right now is Peja better than Dunleavy?
    Obviously Bird believes he is. Peja is Bird's guy and has been his first choice for two years. Bird also didn't want to do more than a one on one trade.

    You know Bird is slowly making this team over and getting the players he wants. There's a lot of talk that Donnie is still running things and it looks that way except Bird is getting the players he wants.

    A note, With Peja on board the Pacers now have 3 of the top nine free throw shooters in the NBA.

    [1] Peja, 98-105 .933
    [8] Cro, 84-94 .894
    [9] Saras, 88-99 .889

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    Obviously Bird believes he is. Peja is Bird's guy and has been his first choice for two years. Bird also didn't want to do more than a one on one trade.

    You know Bird is slowly making this team over and getting the players he wants. There's a lot of talk that Donnie is still running things and it looks that way except Bird is getting the players he wants.

    A note, With Peja on board the Pacers now have 3 of the top nine free throw shooters in the NBA.

    [1] Peja, 98-105 .933
    [8] Cro, 84-94 .894
    [9] Saras, 88-99 .889
    Very sensible post, thanks Will!

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    Diogu makes no sense for our team unless we have plans on having JO at full-time center. Dunleavy's contract sucks. The only way I would have considered this deal is if Pietrus was involved. But it's quite obvious that outside shooting is something we needed to compliment JO and spread the floor a bit. How do you think Diogu help us? Somebody please explain this. I watch him almost every game and just don't see how he fits.
    To answer your question some of us like undersized centers. I just
    don't happen to be one of them. To me this team already pays
    players to much and likes to extend contracts on injury prone players.
    I like the peja trade because it involves alot less risk in money
    and time.

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    Obviously Bird believes he is. Peja is Bird's guy and has been his first choice for two years. Bird also didn't want to do more than a one on one trade.

    You know Bird is slowly making this team over and getting the players he wants. There's a lot of talk that Donnie is still running things and it looks that way except Bird is getting the players he wants.

    A note, With Peja on board the Pacers now have 3 of the top nine free throw shooters in the NBA.

    [1] Peja, 98-105 .933
    [8] Cro, 84-94 .894
    [9] Saras, 88-99 .889
    To bad they won't get fouled that much.

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    To bad they won't get fouled that much.
    Exactly. The only way to get an advantage from these kinds of numbers is to create fouls or at least pull a "reggie" and get calls through acting/kickouts/whatever.

    Those three dont' seem to have a history of doing these things.

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    You guys will end up happy you have Peja on your team. Dunleavy is like subtraction by addition, plus his contract is terrible.

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    To bad they won't get fouled that much.
    On TV yesterday Rick hinted at using Peja in the small forward position and
    then posting him up some since he is a large small forward. Thus he may get
    more fouls also.

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    I'm glad we did the one for one deal...
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    On TV yesterday Rick hinted at using Peja in the small forward position and
    then posting him up some since he is a large small forward. Thus he may get
    more fouls also.

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    They could do the same thing by playing Peja at the two guard spot at least on the offensive end.Peja and Granger could then flip flop positions on the defensive end if he's having trouble guarding some of the quicker two guards. They probably won't do this now with Oneal out but when he comes back I hope to see alot of Peja at the two and Granger at the 3.

    For now I would think Croshere would get the start at powerforward and Harrison will start at center.

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    Very sensible post, thanks Will!
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    Default Re: If Peja deal fell through, G. State was ready to increase their offer

    Quote Originally Posted by Will Galen
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    Obviously Bird believes he is. Peja is Bird's guy and has been his first choice for two years. Bird also didn't want to do more than a one on one trade.

    You know Bird is slowly making this team over and getting the players he wants. There's a lot of talk that Donnie is still running things and it looks that way except Bird is getting the players he wants.

    A note, With Peja on board the Pacers now have 3 of the top nine free throw shooters in the NBA.

    [1] Peja, 98-105 .933
    [8] Cro, 84-94 .894
    [9] Saras, 88-99 .889
    Excellent point Will.

    Bird is trying to remake this team into the image of the 2000 Finals team. Load up the team with veterans that are good shooters, FT shooters, with 3 point range, add a couple of defensive specialists, and VOILA! NBA Finals here we come.
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    I'm bumping this thread just for fun.

    Yes this is a year ago.

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    How interesting.

    We couldn't have gotten rid of Jackson, though.
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    Default Re: If Peja deal fell through, G. State was ready to increase their offer

    I was also trying to find the thread from a few weeks prior to this one when the G. State rumors were very hot - but I don't remember who started the thread

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    Jackson for Murphy

    Ron for Peja for Al for DunDun and Ike

    So it all worked out for you after all. Did it even take a full year?

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    Uh, didn't we lose a No. 1 for our troubles as well?

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    All's well that ends well, eh, UncleBuck?
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    Uh, didn't we lose a No. 1 for our troubles as well?
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    Yes...And it's rather unfortunate.

    We also earned the right to pay former VP Candidate and Crossing Over host John Edwards $1 million this year.
    Which cost much less than that, because the NBA picks up part of that.

    Basically, we spent one late first-round pick to trade our troublesome shooting guard for Golden State's power forward. Works for me.
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    Default Re: If Peja deal fell through, G. State was ready to increase their offer

    ^^ That's how I see it. We traded our draft pick for a player we would have drafted if we had been in the position to do it. It just looks like a 2005 draft day deal where we traded a player for a draft pick, then selected Diogu & Granger ourselves. Eh, you get my point by now.

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    Maybe I'm stretching....or finding ways to lessen the trade of the 2007 1st round pick:

    Artest ( through Peja that was used to get Harrington )+SJax+Sarunas+Powell+2007 1st round draft pick

    for

    Dunleavy+Murphy+McLeod+Ike

    Indirectly...at least for the draft pick...we could look at it like we traded our 2007 1st round draft pick ( that will likely fall between the 14th to 20th pick ) for the 8th pick in the 2005 draft.

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    I think that the "what we got" section should include the few months of Harrington and the few months of Peja. Peja's time here last year definitely had value, in my eyes. Barring his injury, I think we would have advanced to the next round of the playoffs.

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