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    We should make this mans life easier and just trade him with Ron. Rick wont play him at his real position, he wont start him over a player that he is clearly better then. He sucks as a 2, and there is a mismatch everytime he plays it. Tinsley is about to go back to the starting 5, AJ will be the back up once again. I for one do not want to see Saras continue starting at the 2.

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    No.

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    Sarunas should be Pacers head coach.

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    ...jamaal tinsley should be traded with artest and i dont care who for paul pierce...

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    He would probably put a better starting line up out there then little Ricky did. This was a perfect team for Danny to start against and what happens he gets no type of minutes. I dont Rick to be the coach of this team, he is going to kill both Danny's and Davids confidance.

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    No we shouldn't trade him.....and yes AJ should be playing behind Sarunas...if not playing the SG spot.

    I don't understand why AJ isn't playing any backup SG minutes.....clearly he is better suited to play backup SG then Sarunas is ( not that he is a better shooter...but a better scorer ).

    The only hope I have is that Tinsley and/or AJ is going to be traded by the start of the 2006 season.
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    Tinsley is 10 times the PG Sarunas will ever be. Shouldnt even think about trading him to open minutes up for a player like him. If we could get a good starting PG for Tinsley then trade him but dont even think about trading him to let Sarunas start.

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    No way we can afford to trade Cabbage's shooting. Once he gets over labels and realizes basketball is basketball, he'll be fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jermaniac
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    We should make this mans life easier and just trade him with Ron. Rick wont play him at his real position, he wont start him over a player that he is clearly better then. He sucks as a 2, and there is a mismatch everytime he plays it. Tinsley is about to go back to the starting 5, AJ will be the back up once again. I for one do not want to see Saras continue starting at the 2.
    Naw, how about we just make him president?
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    Some posters on here would be for that

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    Some posters on here would be for that
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    Of course, we need to trade Jack,Tins,JO and Foster so Sarunas can start at every position. The guy is nothing more then a back up PG and people on here treat him like he is Lebron.

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    Of course, we need to trade Jack,Tins,JO and Foster so Sarunas can start at every position. The guy is nothing more then a back up PG and people on here treat him like he is Lebron.
    God, I'm tired of this....

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    God, I'm tired of this....
    ignore works amazingly well.

    Sarunas is terrific!

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    The guy is nothing more then a back up PG and people on here treat him like he is Lebron.
    In case you haven't noticed, in the few games Tinsley has played this season, he hasnt really been a starting quality point guard anyways, so why not give Sarunas at least a chance to start? At least he has sort of earned it putting up with the bullcrap minutes RC is giving him.

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    Tinsley would be gone before I would trade Sarunas. Jamaal has taken over Bender's role as the man of glass.

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    Even when he is hurt Mel-Mel shows he is starter material.

    He would be a freaking all star if he could stay healthy..........
    No doubt. JT is more talented than Saras and is the better PG and will always be the better PG if he stays healthy. ....and to be honest, I am ticked because I wanted Saras to be good enough to replace Tins due to the health issues....so I am a disappointed Saras fan.

    Now, Saras can be a good PG in the NBA, and he could easily start for an NBA team, but he is only an average or slightly above average NBA starting PG. I expected a little better with all the hype from across the pond.

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    Of course, we need to trade Jack,Tins,JO and Foster so Sarunas can start at every position. The guy is nothing more then a back up PG and people on here treat him like he is Lebron.
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    Even when he is hurt Mel-Mel shows he is starter material.

    He would be a freaking all star if he could stay healthy..........

    Well, I guess that's really the problem, isn't it? He can not stay healthy nearly enough and thus can not be counted upon and thus we need 3 or 4 PGs in total to be able to fill in the spot when he gets hurt again.
    I'm really fed up with this and I want him traded, maybe with AJ or some other(s) to get a good PG who is much more durable, so we don't have 4 PGs and we can actually have a reliable rotation there, something we SEVERELY lack rightnow and makes the team much more unstable to me (both in chemistry and the other players getting used to the several PGs on our team).

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    How do you know that Saras is only an above the average starting pg, when you have seen him start at the pg only 2-3 times this season?

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    How do you know that Saras is only an above the average starting pg, when you have seen him start at the pg only 2-3 times this season?
    Let me put it this way. I still think Saras has a chance to be a great one. He is an outstanding passer, shooter and more significantly leader. He also plays with great passion. We Pacer fans love those things about him. However, there are two things that are convincing me that he will not be at the top of the NBA PG list:

    1) His ability to handle high intensity ball pressure. He has difficulty bringing the ball up the court and initiating the offense. The ball is too often stolen or he simply passes the ball out. This results in taking the ball out of his hands and rendering him a non-factor. AJ actually does this better than Saras, and this is one of AJ's weaknesses.

    2) His defense is definitely below average for an NBA starting PG. I have seen many times where the Pacers have tried to compensate for his defense, but have been burned by an extra pass. Eddie Griffin was the recipient of several assists of this nature last night. Tinsley actually defends better than Saras, and this is Tinsley's greatest weakness.

    Now, if he is able to shore up both of these things, he would be an all-star PG. The problem is, these will be very difficult for him to improve to the extent they need improved. Saras will be 30 soon and if anything his quickness will decrease, which is part of the issue with these factors. Therefore, I have serious doubts he will live up to my initial expectations. I hope I am wrong because I love many of the other things he brings to the floor.

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    Tinsley is 10 times the PG Sarunas will ever be. Shouldnt even think about trading him to open minutes up for a player like him. If we could get a good starting PG for Tinsley then trade him but dont even think about trading him to let Sarunas start.
    Jerm....at this point...I agree that Tinsley is the better starting PG for the team then Sarunas is. However, how do you reconcile the fact that Tinsley...for all his PG greatness.....is perpetually injured and therefore useless to us when he is watching the game from the bench in his suit?

    The problem that I ( and probably others ) have with Tinsley is that for a starting PG he isn't durable/healthy enough for long stretches of time to make the impact for the Pacers that he is capable of making. I would live with his negatives ( "attitude" problems, knuckleheadedness or that he has a tendency to sometimes play "one on one" basketball ) IF he was able to stay healthy.

    Due to his track record for not staying healthy...it could be argued that its difficult for the team to build team chemistry...much less have a conistent lineup...if the player running the point...a critical position....is changing from week to week...if not day to day.

    As some have noted...everyone gets injured...there's nothing you can do about preventing that. I would argue that you can ( to an extent ), either by limiting the # of minutes he plays so that his chances of getting injured are decreased or you accept the fact that he is "injury prone" and therefore live with an inconsistent PG rotation ( which isn't good ). I honestly don't know what to do with Tinsley other then to trade him during the offseason. If you can come up with a solution to remedy Tinsley situation....please let me know.
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    I honestly don't know what to do with Tinsley other then to trade him during the offseason. If you can come up with a solution to remedy Tinsley situation....please let me know.
    Easy. You trade him sooner than the offseason.
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    Easy. You trade him sooner than the offseason.
    I've asked this many times......but doesn't Tinsley's BYC condition in his contract make his market value lower then it really is?
    Doesn't that mean that if we do trade him this season....that we would not get fair market value for him?

    If so....I would think that it would be more prudent to trade Tinsley in the offseason when this BYC condition is no longer valid ( I'm assuming this is the case ) cuz I don't want to go through the whole Artest/Low Trade value situation with Tinsley.
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    Maybe Jermaniac is right IF everything he says is true. Looks like Rick prefers him to suck at 2 than to play him a better game at PG. Maybe he put Saras in a starting 5 in order to have a better first quarter (to eliminate our problem). But it looks like he doesn't want Saras to play PG. BTW, I noticed that Rick is usually saying that other players like AJ, Tins does a little good thing when they actually play bad games, but he never mention Saras, no matter how good or bad he plays. It's not about the praising, I just thought, maybe he dislikes him?
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