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    Pummeled??
    WHere/when was this??
    Oh,you're calling a paper cup pummeling???????????

    re-read what I posted, I said pummeled after you get into the stands.

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    If someone in your family is being threatened I say screw your job. Family is more important.

    Ok, then NBA players are going to be going up into the stands about every other game then. Family memebers get harassed, abused all the time to varying degrees

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    I don't blame him for doing it, But he shouldn't have done it.

    It will be an absolute travesty if he doesn't get 5 games suspended or at least a fine. It's not the fact of why he did it, it's because of the fact he did it and if he had been hit by a fan then what? I'm sure this is going to spook some people about court-side seats as well. He could have fallen on someone on the way up on top of that. Not near as bad as our brawl but he at least deserves a fine/small suspension just so other players know to notify security.

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    Fan to sue Davis, wife for more than $1 million

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    As New York Knicks forward Antonio Davis awaited word Thursday on whether he will be suspended for climbing into the stands to confront a man during a game in Chicago, that fan said he did nothing wrong and was attacked by Davis' wife.

    The altercation came in overtime Wednesday night of the Bulls' 106-104 victory. Davis said he thought his wife was in danger and later released a statement saying the fan was drunk.

    "It's a lie," 22-year-old Michael Axelrod said in a phone interview with The Associated Press.

    Unlike last season's melee when Indiana Pacers, Detroit Pistons and fans were involved in perhaps the worst brawl in U.S. sports history, order was quickly restored. No punches were thrown, there were no arrests and Davis was ejected.

    The Knicks were home Thursday night against Detroit. An NBA spokesman said decisions on penalties are usually made before a team plays its next game.

    Davis, president of the NBA players' association, jumped over the scorer's table to get in the stands at the United Center.

    "I witnessed my wife being threatened by a man that I learned later to be intoxicated," he said in a statement after the game. "I saw him touch her, and I know I should not have acted the way I did, but I would have felt terrible if I didn't react. There was no time to call security. It happened too quickly."

    But Axelrod said Kendra Davis tried to scratch him after he protested a call. Axelrod said he never laid a hand on Davis' wife and said he was not drunk.

    Axelrod's father, David, is a prominent Democratic political consultant in Chicago who has worked with Senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and Chicago mayor Richard M. Daley.

    "When I go to games, I cheer as hard as I can for the Bulls, and I boo as hard as I can for whoever they're playing," Michael Axelrod said. "I don't feel comfortable if players are allowed to easily jump into the crowd whenever they feel like it's necessary."

    Axelrod's attorney, Jay Paul Deratany, said he planned to sue Davis and his wife for more than $1 million. Deratany said he was writing the papers Thursday for a battery suit against Kendra Davis and a slander case against Antonio Davis, and planned to file them Friday.

    According to Axelrod, he was sitting in the seventh row and booed an official's call. Kendra Davis "came out of her seat. I didn't even pay attention to her. I thought she was just going to the bathroom or something," he said.

    Axelrod, who was sitting a couple of rows behind her, said she yelled at him to be quiet. Axelrod said he did not know she was Davis' wife until the player ran into the stands.

    Axelrod said Kendra Davis put both hands on his face, and that he motioned for security. He said she later went after another fan. "I was glad she was done hitting me, but I didn't want her to hit anyone else," Axelrod said.

    Antonio Davis appeared calm throughout and walked away willingly when security arrived. He returned to the bench and took his seat before being ejected. The game resumed after about a five-minute delay.

    Axelrod was escorted to the concourse by security, but said he was allowed back into the arena and saw Ben Gordon's winning shot at the buzzer.

    "His wife and kids were up there," Knicks guard Jamal Crawford said. "If you see your family in harm's way, you're going to go protect them. You're the man of the house, and at that point you're thinking like a regular human instead of an athlete."

    United Center security remained in the stands for a few more minutes, and other fans appeared to be explaining what they had seen. Guards in suits and yellow jackets then escorted a group of people from the area.

    Knicks coach Larry Brown said Davis went into the stands because he saw his wife "falling back."

    Brown was coaching the Pistons in November 2004 when that ugly fight broke out in the stands between fans and Pacers during a Detroit home game. An embarrassment for the NBA, the brawl led to criminal charges and lengthy suspensions for Ron Artest, Jermaine O'Neal and Stephen Jackson.

    But Brown was adamant that this situation should be viewed differently.

    "Come on, that's his wife," Brown said. "That's entirely different. I was worried about Kendra. That's why he went in the stands, he saw her falling back.

    "That thing that happened in the stands had nothing to do with the two teams. That's a man concerned about his family."

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    Between others suggesting AD's wife has a bad reputation, and what this guy is saying, I tend to believe him for now.

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    Kendra, from what I've always heard, is a real piece of work.

    This guy's story is somewhat reasonable, for what its worth.
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    Let's say Antonio's mother was in the stands and was having a heart attack. Should Antonio have just stood in the team huddle and not gone to check on her? When Wayne Gretsky's wife got knocked out by a puck should he have stayed on the bench and not gone to her side? If someone in your family is being threatened I say screw your job. Family is more important.

    I'd like to know what everyone's opinion would be about this if 11/19/05 had never happened.
    From what Stern laid out with Artest's suspension last season, if a player goes into the stands as a reaction to the actions of the fans, (players "must not enter the stands whatever the provocation or poisonous behavior of people attending the games" - Stern last season) then that player is wrong and should be suspended. If his wife was not being abused by the fans and instead was having a heart attack, there would absolutely be no fine nor suspension.

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    This guy's story is somewhat reasonable, for what its worth.
    Sounds reasonable to me, other than the interpretation that a woman "trying to scratch me" is guilty of "assault" and owes me a cool million.

    I do see the slander angle against AD. But... legally it's not slander unless AD knew that the guy wasn't drunk and said so anyway. He most likely repeated what security told him. Restating misinformation without realizing it is incorrect is not slander.

    This guy's trying to make a buck and makes me pretty sick.

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    I think he means that Ron pummeled the kid in glasses.

    Which he did.

    Doh! Why am I even discussing this?

    He claims RON was pummeled!? Must be that mysterious 'Zebruder' film I've not seen

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    I've thought about that as well. What can be done about it? Should anything be done about it? And why can't people be responsible enough to know their limit?

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    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

    This just repported by SI.

    Point of contention
    Fan disputes Davis' story, may sue player and wife


    CHICAGO (AP) -- As New York Knicks forward Antonio Davis awaited word Thursday on whether he will be suspended for climbing into the stands to confront a man during a game in Chicago, that fan said he did nothing wrong and was attacked by Davis' wife.
    The altercation came in overtime Wednesday night of the Bulls' 106-104 victory. Davis said he thought his wife was in danger and later released a statement saying the fan was drunk.
    "It's a lie," 22-year-old Michael Axelrod said in a phone interview with The Associated Press.
    Unlike last season's melee when Indiana Pacers, Detroit Pistons and fans were involved in perhaps the worst brawl in U.S. sports history, order was quickly restored. No punches were thrown, there were no arrests and Davis was ejected.
    The Knicks were home Thursday night against Detroit. An NBA spokesman said decisions on penalties are usually made before a team plays its next game.
    Davis, president of the NBA players' association, jumped over the scorer's table to get in the stands at the United Center.
    "I witnessed my wife being threatened by a man that I learned later to be intoxicated," he said in a statement after the game. "I saw him touch her, and I know I should not have acted the way I did, but I would have felt terrible if I didn't react. There was no time to call security. It happened too quickly."
    But Axelrod said Kendra Davis tried to scratch him after he protested a call. Axelrod said he never laid a hand on Davis' wife and said he was not drunk.
    Axelrod's father, David, is a prominent Democratic political consultant in Chicago who has worked with Senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and Chicago mayor Richard M. Daley.
    "When I go to games, I cheer as hard as I can for the Bulls, and I boo as hard as I can for whoever they're playing," Michael Axelrod said. "I don't feel comfortable if players are allowed to easily jump into the crowd whenever they feel like it's necessary."
    Axelrod's attorney, Jay Paul Deratany, said he planned to sue Davis and his wife for more than $1 million. Deratany said he was writing the papers Thursday for a battery suit against Kendra Davis and a slander case against Antonio Davis, and planned to file them Friday.
    According to Axelrod, he was sitting in the seventh row and booed an official's call. Kendra Davis "came out of her seat. I didn't even pay attention to her. I thought she was just going to the bathroom or something," he said.
    Axelrod, who was sitting a couple of rows behind her, said she yelled at him to be quiet. Axelrod said he did not know she was Davis' wife until the player ran into the stands.
    Axelrod said Kendra Davis put both hands on his face, and that he motioned for security. He said she later went after another fan.
    "I was glad she was done hitting me, but I didn't want her to hit anyone else," Axelrod said.
    Antonio Davis appeared calm throughout and walked away willingly when security arrived. He returned to the bench and took his seat before being ejected. The game resumed after about a five-minute delay.
    Axelrod was escorted to the concourse by security, but said he was allowed back into the arena and saw Ben Gordon's winning shot at the buzzer.
    "His wife and kids were up there," Knicks guard Jamal Crawford said. "If you see your family in harm's way, you're going to go protect them. You're the man of the house, and at that point you're thinking like a regular human instead of an athlete."
    United Center security remained in the stands for a few more minutes, and other fans appeared to be explaining what they had seen. Guards in suits and yellow jackets then escorted a group of people from the area.
    Knicks coach Larry Brown said Davis went into the stands because he saw his wife "falling back."
    Brown was coaching the Pistons in November 2004 when that ugly fight broke out in the stands between fans and Pacers during a Detroit home game. An embarrassment for the NBA, the brawl led to criminal charges and lengthy suspensions for Ron Artest, Jermaine O'Neal and Stephen Jackson.
    But Brown was adamant that this situation should be viewed differently.
    "Come on, that's his wife," Brown said. "That's entirely different. I was worried about Kendra. That's why he went in the stands, he saw her falling back.
    "That thing that happened in the stands had nothing to do with the two teams. That's a man concerned about his family."
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    Sounds reasonable to me, other than the interpretation that a woman "trying to scratch me" is guilty of "assault" and owes me a cool million.

    I do see the slander angle against AD. But... legally it's not slander unless AD knew that the guy wasn't drunk and said so anyway. He most likely repeated what security told him. Restating misinformation without realizing it is incorrect is not slander.

    This guy's trying to make a buck and makes me pretty sick.
    Yeah, I can't come up with any grounds that I know of to sue. Other than, of course, this is America and I can sue anybody for anything!
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    If you want to trash Detroit and its people, you will need to find another forum.

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    Knowing Kendra's reputation.... I believe this guy all the way! Heck, Antonio probably went into the stands to shut her up before she caused anymore trouble!!!!

    Antonio will get about 5 games for this....
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    Davis got suspended 5 games, per local Detroit radio.

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    Okay guys, what is Kendra's reputation? Give examples please.

    Doug Kristie's wife has a rep but there have been eye witness accounts of her controlling nature, especially concerning other women.

    Jamaal is suppose to have a rep too but when you really try to nail it down it really sounds like people just don't like him.

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    Pacers.

    The Redskins just added a rule last year, no sale of alcohol after the third quarter. The problem with that is pre-game tailgaters.

    They just added that last year? It has always been that way at Colts and Pacers games

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    Okay guys, what is Kendra's reputation? Give examples please.

    Doug Kristie's wife has a rep but there have been eye witness accounts of her controlling nature, especially concerning other women.

    Jamaal is suppose to have a rep too but when you really try to nail it down it really sounds like people just don't like him.


    She called in the afternoon radio show and was furious because a caller criticized her husband. She was a little unhinged. She isn't as bad as Doug Kristie's wife but she is in the same ballpark.

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    She called in the afternoon radio show and was furious because a caller criticized her husband. She was a little unhinged. She isn't as bad as Doug Kristie's wife but she is in the same ballpark.
    Okay so she is supportive of her husband, and it sounds like she wasn't taking crap from that fan that lead to the incident. Is that it?

    The reason why I ask is because I have heard nothing but good things about the Davis' when they took Al into their home. Kendra sounded like Al's second mother at times and we all loved it.

    I never read a negative thing back then, did it all change so fast and so quietly?

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    Okay so she is supportive of her husband, and it sounds like she wasn't taking crap from that fan that lead to the incident. Is that it?

    The reason why I ask is because I have heard nothing but good things about the Davis' when they took Al into their home. Kendra sounded like Al's second mother at times and we all loved it.

    I never read a negative thing back then, did it all change so fast and so quietly?

    I understand that some of you know things that you can't share in public, feel free to PM or Email me.

    I don't think anyone is saying that Kendra is not a good person and very generous and so forth. But she is very outspoken and very strong willed. Not that there is anything wrong with that. But she isn't good at just letting criticism roll off her back.

    I forget if it was DA or someone on TNT that it might be that AD did not necessarily go into the stands to protect his wife from getting hurt, but rather protect her from doing something she shouldn't.

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    Shes probably a good person, but from what I've heard. she's annoying and a bit of a wannabe "diva".

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