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    6/7 in 12 min
    what more do you want ?

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    Default Re: Why didn't you let him open the 2nd half ?

    AJ is having a once in a lifetime game right now.
    You, Never? Did the Kenosha Kid?

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    He cant play defense

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    sure... you are looking for the defence when a player is doing 6/7 14 points in 12 min
    you are all right

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    Default Re: Why didn't you let him open the 2nd half ?

    It's not like he couldn't come off the bench and score some more. He was having a good game, but AJ was having a better one. Nuff said.

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    Default Re: Why didn't you let him open the 2nd half ?

    Yep if you score 14 points and give up 14 thats not helping. And the guy he would have replaced in the lineup in the second half happend to have the best game of his career tonight scoring wise.

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    Its really nothing to be mad about because this more than
    likely won't happen agian, udi. You have to go with the hot
    hand and AJ's isn't this hot ever.

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    Default Re: Why didn't you let him open the 2nd half ?

    it's about the team, not the individual player.

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    6/7 in 12 min
    what more do you want ?
    How about 27pts and 10 rebounds.
    Oh, and DEFENSE.
    Get a clue.
    This is a TEAM game.
    not one mans story...............

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    I thought this was going to be about Granger.......
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    when the 2nd period was ended no 1 knew what will come in the scnd half
    and when you have a player that scores 6/7 14 points in the 2nd period you cant sit him
    sorry
    AJ was fantastic but this has no relation to my point - its all about management

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    What you seemed to have missed in this "scoring spree" is that at the 5.33 mark in the 2nd Q AJ came back in, Saras played the eniter 2nd Q btw, when the 2nd Q started we were down 9, at the 5.33 mark we were down 8 andSaras had already scored half of his points in that quarter.

    It is as some say, you can score a bunch, but if you give it away on defense, it's not going to get you anywhere.
    It was clear that the TEAM was better with AJ last night, so Rick did what every good coach does, he went with the best option: "offense and defense in the same player".

    Saras still played 28 minutes in the game, so playing time was not a problem.

    And to sugest that they made it a point not to get him the ball is ridiculous.
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    He can't play defense at the NBA level.
    He doesn't have the footspeed.
    Additionally, the Bobcats lead the league in forcing turnovers and Saras has had trouble bringing the ball up the court against almost every other team.
    Putting in AJ for him when he's having a career night was the smart thing to do.

    I know many of yall love Saras, but I just don't see it.
    He can score, great... but if his man is harrassing him while he's bringing the ball up and on the other end Saras can't guard his man, he can be a liablility. Love is blind though.

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    Yep if you score 14 points and give up 14 thats not helping. And the guy he would have replaced in the lineup in the second half happend to have the best game of his career tonight scoring wise.
    BS

    Maby you want to start counting?

    Open your eyes and take a look at +/- stats.

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    Default Re: Why didn't you let him open the 2nd half ?

    Saras is one of only 3 Pacers with a positive +/- (second highest on the team with +7.1)

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    Default Re: Why didn't you let him open the 2nd half ?

    +/- is not the same thing as "getting more than you're giving up"

    This is probably the worst case of overrating a player I've ever seen....Sarass is a backup.

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    Indeed, but you could also contrast the average +/- for the most used 5-man units that include Saras against the most used 5-man units that don't include him and get a pretty good indicator.

    But I'm definately not doing all that work for a team I don't root for and a player I don't really care about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denyfizle
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    it's about the team, not the individual player.
    Too bad that some of our new friends don't share that perspective.
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    I thought "Euro ball" didn't care about stats? I'm so confused. I had to double check that the Pacers won.
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    "'Only.'" Woevre was amused. "Someday you'll explain to me how that's possible. Seeing that, on the face of it, all mathematics leads, doesn't it, sooner or later, to some kind of human suffering."

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    BS

    Maby you want to start counting?

    Open your eyes and take a look at +/- stats.
    +/- has as much to do with WHO you are playing with at the time, as it does the individual.

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    Indeed, but you could also contrast the average +/- for the most used 5-man units that include Saras against the most used 5-man units that don't include him and get a pretty good indicator.

    But I'm definately not doing all that work for a team I don't root for and a player I don't really care about.
    We've had 20 something different starting lineups. There IS no 'most used' groups of players on this team.

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