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Vescey is one of the most unreliable sources ... I can't remember the last time he reported a legit rumor.
And Marc Stein was just on ESPN saying that there was no physical fight between Kobe and Odom either and that Kobe wants Lamar to say with the Lakers.
Odom's best year was under Stan Van Gundy, who hardly plays run-and-gun offense.
Guys, you will need scorers around Odom.
He's not that great of a 2nd option, at least not on the Lakers so you better keep your scorers.
Our problem right now is that we don't have a good scorer besides Kobe and Odom's required to score but he can't do it. He's not a 20 ppg scorer. He"ll give you like 15-17 ppg.
Hell, I think you should even play him at the PF.
He can be a legit PF in the east.
2 years ago in Miami he was the 2nd best PF in the east, just behind Jermaine.
He certainly gives you more flexibility. He can play SF and PF.
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Hey all - I had gotten it from the top that LA would NOT trade Odom for Artest.
Of course that was about a week ago - now that Odom has missed three wide open three's in a row in the final minute of three straight losses - and Kobe wants to strangle him - maybe things have changed.
Problem with the Lakers - Odom is the only other threat besides Kobe and you don't want Odom shooting treys. He's a great complimentary player - impacts the game all over the place - but he's not a pure shooter.
What I see right now is the Lakers and Pacers being the main discussion - with LA trying to force it through as Kwame - and the Pacers Odom.
I will try to get more info on the Laker side to see if they have taken a step forward with Odom . . .
Jermaine Oneal and Steven Jackson really don't create for others. Other posters have mentioned this before as well as I have that if you get Odom you have to changer certain aspects of your team one of them would probably be to trade Tinsley.
To maximize Odoms potential he needs to play point forward.He needs the ball in his hands and if you have Tinsley that isn't going to happen. Ideally we would then trade Tinsley for a guard who can defend the point guard position and knock down jumpers. Your right getting Odom would be a huge change and Just like we built a team around Artest and Oneal we would probably have to get some new players to fit around a combination of Oneal and Odom.This is not a quick fix, this would take time but might be worth it in the end.
Actually Saras might be the perfect PG next to Odom.
He's a great PG but he also knows how to play without the ball in his hands.
I could see a deal in which Croshere , goes to the Lakers with Artest then suddend limit numbers for Austin and his name being reported in paper today make him seem likely. What about Pollard doesn't play for several games then plays 15 minutes vs the Spurs ? Showcasing?
I was told and posted early that its Odom if the Lakers want Ron, still think thats the case.
This could get very interesting.
Well, I think Odom is much better without Kobe. He and Kobe just can't play together. For one thing, Odom's defering to Kobe too much.
Kobe's been suspended for 2 games. Let's see how Odom will play.
Last year when Kob got injured, Odom played very well, he averaged like 19-10-6.
the reason why Kobe has the ball so much is because we don't have a 2nd option, he has to score in order for us to win
if we get Artest without giving up Odom it will be great cause Odom would go into the spot that he feels most comfortable and best, and thats rebounding and helping others and not being depended on to score, doing the little things