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    Default Miami & the Expansion Draft

    This one will be as easy as the Grizzlies was difficult.

    From NBA.com, a story on the Bobcats draft.
    http://www.nba.com/bobcats/news/expansion_draft.html

    This paragraph has the basic info.

    Charlotte will receive lists from each of the 27 teams not competing in the NBA Finals 10 days prior to the scheduled Expansion Draft (June 12) and those from the competing teams in the Finals within two days of the conclusion of the Finals. Team lists will designate a maximum of eight protected players for that teamís players under contract or restricted free agents for the 2004-05 NBA season. The unprotected players are eligible for selection by the Bobcats, who will draft a minimum of 14 players from NBA rosters.

    Free agent info from REAL GM.
    http://www.realgm.com/src_freeagents.php?year=2004

    Salary information can be found at Hoops Hype
    http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/miami.htm

    This is the current Heat roster.

    Eddie Jones
    Brian Grant
    Lamar Odom
    Dwyane Wade
    Caron Butler
    Samaki Walker
    Bimbo Coles
    John Wallace
    Malik Allen
    Wang Zhizhi
    Rafer Alston
    Loren Woods
    Rasual Butler
    Jerome Beasley
    Udonis Haslem

    The Heat have the NBA max of 15 players but according to REAL GM they have 7 free agents & none of them are restricted.

    Here are the 8 Heat players signed for 04-05

    Eddie Jones -------- $13,440,000
    Brian Grant --------- $13,346,250
    Lamar Odom -------- $9,100,000
    Dwyane Wade ------ $2,834,160
    Caron Butler --------- $1,920,560
    Malik Allen ------------- Unlisted
    Jerome Beasley ------- Unlisted
    Udonis Haslem -------- Unlisted

    These are the Heat free agents.

    Samaki Walker
    Bimbo Coles
    John Wallace
    Wang Zhizhi
    Rafer Alston
    Loren Woods
    Rasual Butler

    The Heat need to make one player available & it's a toss of the coin whether it's Brian Grant or Eddie Jones. I'll say it'll be Jones left unprotected.

    Charlotte does not select a player from Miami. (DUH)

    Here is the Charlotte Expansion Draft.

    Atlanta ------------- No Pick
    Boston ------------- C - Kedrick Perkins -------- $729,500
    Chicago ------------ No Pick
    Cleveland ---------- G - Kevin Ollie ----------- $2,704,350
    Dallas --------------- G - Tony Delk ----------- $3,150,000
    Denver -------------- F - Ryan Bowen -------- $1,400,000 (est)
    Detroit -------------- No Pick
    Golden State ------ No Pick
    Houston ------------ GF - Adrian Griffin ---------- $807,546
    Indiana ------------- C - Primoz Brezec ------- $1,554,326
    L.A. Clippers ------- F - Melvin Ely ------------- $1,742,400
    L.A. Lakers --------- No Pick
    Memphis ------------ G-F - Dahntay Jones ---- $1,143,360
    Miami ---------------- No Pick

    Total payroll $13,231,482

    Charlotte's payroll next season will be 2/3's of the salary cap. If the cap is 45M then the Bobcats will have about 30M for players.

    Links to previous threads in this series.

    Atlanta ------ http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=996
    Boston ------ http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1038
    Chicago ----- http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1083
    Cleveland -- http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1122
    Dallas ------- http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1162
    Denver ------ http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1216
    Detroit ------ http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1251
    Golden St. -- http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1318
    Houston ---- http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1355
    Indiana ----- http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1427
    LA Clippers - http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1493
    LA Lakers --- http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1543
    Memphis ---- http://www.pacersdigest.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1615

    Next up, the Milwaukee Bucks

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    Default Re: Miami & the Expansion Draft

    Yip, no pick of the heat.

    Atlanta - no pick
    Boston - Jumaine Jones
    Chicago - Chris Jeffries
    Cleveland - Kedrick Brown
    Dallas - Tony Delk
    Denver - no pick
    Detroit - no pick
    Golden State - Popeye Jones
    Houston - no pick
    Indiana - Primoz Brezac
    L.A. Clips - Melvin Ely
    L.A. Lakers - Devan George
    Memphis - no pick (trade)
    Miami - no pick


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    Good job as always!

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    Yip, no pick of the heat.

    Atlanta - no pick
    Boston - Jumaine Jones $ 1,687,500
    Chicago - Chris Jeffries $ 899,040
    Cleveland - Kedrick Brown $ 2,332,388
    Dallas - Tony Delk $ 3,150,00
    Denver - no pick
    Detroit - no pick
    Golden State - Popeye Jones
    Houston - no pick
    Indiana - Primoz Brezac $1,554,326
    L.A. Clips - Melvin Ely $ 1,742,400
    L.A. Lakers - Devan George $ 4,500,000
    Memphis - no pick (trade)
    Miami - no pick
    Total payroll $15,865,654.00


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    This is fun, but I bet it's more fun for Charlotte.

    Another thing, we are looking at teams one at a time whereas Charlotte will get to look at everyone all at once. Consequently whereas we might regard picking a player off of a certain team as a no brainer best pick, that might not be so for Charlotte.

    Using the Pacers as an example, if you have already picked Artest, Harrington, and Bender for your team, would you then pick J. Jones, or would you go for Brezac? Same thing with Charlotte, they might pick a lessor player to balance out the roster.

    In other words what Charlotte will do is pick the players they really want then balance the roster filling in around them. They will probably pick some players they don't really want because of inducements, either monetarily or draft picks or both.

    I didn't pay must attention the the last expansion draft, but I will be paying a lot of attention to this one.

    Duh, I believe people could guess I'm paying attention. <shaking head>

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    Yea, it's kind of tuff doing this one at a time. But Jose is doing a great job of putting up these numbers, so it only makes since to do it this way.

    But on your point, I have purposley tried to adjust my picks so as not to keep picking the 6'7" to 6'10" athletic player who can move positions.

    Although I do have four of them so far. But I've picked two centers & a couple of point guards.

    But as the draft goes on I will try & keep a lid on picking the same kind of player. Although I do retain the right to change my mind.


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    Will, I have to believe that Charlotte is doing the same thing you are right now. I would go one step further by saying that I bet they may already be talking to GMs about setting up deals to either take their players or trade for draft picks. At the very least, I am sure they are doing some scouting.

    Besides, what else do they have to do right now?

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    Default Re: Miami & the Expansion Draft

    A couple more things kindda related to what Will mentioned.

    The Bobcats will pick 4th in the draft just a couple days after the expansion draft. By that time they should have a pretty good read on who that pick will be.

    They also have a list on free agents that they can go after this summer. I doubt that that list would be large. I think Bickerstaff wants to target just 2 or 3 key free agents.

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    Atlanta - No Pick
    Boston - Kedrick Perkins
    Chicago - No Pick _or_ Eddie Robinson + Draft Pick
    Cleveland - No Pick
    Dallas - Tony Delk
    Denver - No Pick
    Detroit - No Pick _or_ Campbell (in hopes of getting talent for an expiring contract at the deadline)
    Golden State - No Pick
    Houston - Adrian Griffin
    Indiana - Primoz Brezec
    LA Clippers - Melvin Ely
    LA Lakers - No Pick
    Memphis - Theron Smith
    Miami - No Pick

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