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    Indiana Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Ron Artest
    6-7 SF from St. John's
    19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes
    Stephen Jackson
    6-8 SG from Oak Hill Academy (HS)
    13.9 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 34.9 minutes
    Jamaal Tinsley
    6-3 PG from Iowa State
    10.3 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 5.5 apg in 28.5 minutes
    Incoming
    Rashard Lewis
    6-10 SF from Alief Elsik (HS)
    21.8 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 2.4 apg in 37.8 minutes


    Change in team outlook: -21.8 ppg, -6.4 rpg, and -7.3 apg.

    Atlanta Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Al Harrington
    6-9 SF from St. Patrick's (HS)
    18.4 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 3.1 apg in 37.6 minutes
    Tyronn Lue
    6-0 PG from Nebraska
    9.6 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 2.8 apg in 23.7 minutes
    Tony Delk
    6-2 from Kentucky
    No games yet played in 2005/06
    Incoming
    Stephen Jackson
    6-8 SG from Oak Hill Academy (HS)
    13.9 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 34.9 minutes
    Jamaal Tinsley
    6-3 PG from Iowa State
    10.3 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 5.5 apg in 28.5 minutes
    Nene Hilario
    6-11 PF from Brazil (Foreign)
    0.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 2.0 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -3.8 ppg, -2.1 rpg, and +1.6 apg.




    Denver Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Nene Hilario
    6-11 PF from Brazil (Foreign)
    0.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 2.0 minutes
    Andre Miller
    6-2 PG from Utah
    13.8 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 8.2 apg in 35.6 minutes
    Incoming
    Ron Artest
    6-7 SF from St. John's
    19.4 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 2.2 apg in 37.8 minutes
    Tyronn Lue
    6-0 PG from Nebraska
    9.6 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 2.8 apg in 23.7 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +15.2 ppg, +1.4 rpg, and -3.2 apg.

    Seattle Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Rashard Lewis
    6-10 SF from Alief Elsik (HS)
    21.8 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 2.4 apg in 37.8 minutes
    Incoming
    Al Harrington
    6-9 SF from St. Patrick's (HS)
    18.4 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 3.1 apg in 37.6 minutes
    Tony Delk
    6-2 from Kentucky
    No games yet played in 2005/06
    Andre Miller
    6-2 PG from Utah
    13.8 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 8.2 apg in 35.6 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +10.4 ppg, +7.1 rpg, and +8.9 apg.


    I couldn't get RealGM to allow it (tho it IS possible), but what's missing is Reggie Evans & Ronald Murray from Seattle to Indiana.

    Indiana gets from Seattle: Rashard Lewis, Reggie Evans, Ronald Murray

    All the rest is good.

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    Early?! It's already 6 PM...

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    Ummm...




































    HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
























    That is all.

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    Wow....you came up with a 4 team trade and all we get back is 1 player?

    You couldn't even figure out a way for us to get a PF of some sort?
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    Wow....you came up with a 4 team trade and all we get back is 1 player?

    You couldn't even figure out a way for us to get a PF of some sort?
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    I couldn't get RealGM to allow it (tho it IS possible), but what's missing is Reggie Evans & Ronald Murray from Seattle to Indiana.

    Indiana gets from Seattle: Rashard Lewis, Reggie Evans, Ronald Murray

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    Default Re: Yes!! A 4-team trade with

    Actually it is pretty impressive... it is cool that all 3 teams except the Pacers would probably do the trade...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CableKC
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    Wow....you came up with a 4 team trade and all we get back is 1 player?

    You couldn't even figure out a way for us to get a PF of some sort?
    I think you missed the bottom line -
    We get back Shard, Flip & Reggie Evans - that's 3 (three) players.

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    Doesn't Flip have a no-trade clause in his contract?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NPFII
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    I think you missed the bottom line -
    We get back Shard, Flip & Reggie Evans - that's 3 (three) players.
    Yep...I did....ok...if we get Shard/Evans and Flip...then I'm cool with it. But I doubt Denver would give up Andre just to get back Tyronne Lue...they would be running the shortest PG rotation in history.
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    Yep...I did....ok...if we get Shard/Evans and Flip...then I'm cool with it. But I doubt Denver would give up Andre just to get back Tyronne Lue...they would be running the shortest PG rotation in history.
    Ah yes, but they do get Ron for Nene, and they still have the mighty- powerful-druelled-over-on-PD Earl Watson.

    Look at it as Ron for Andre, and Lue for an injured player with an expiring contract.

    Watson/Melo/Ron/KMart/Camby

    or

    Andre/Lenard/Melo/KMart/Camby


    seems fair to me...

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    ^^^Still.....the Nuggets would have a very short PG rotation....which may cause defensive problems at the PG spot against bigger guards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CableKC
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    ^^^Still.....the Nuggets would have a very short PG rotation....which may cause defensive problems at the PG spot against bigger guards.
    I've been hearing that the Nuggets want to go more uptempo, and aren't that satisfied with Andre Miller, especially on the defensive end. They're also not a very good defensive team in the first place.

    Here they get to go with a faster lineup with Earl, and they get a defensive presence in Ron, and they get Melo to play the 2 - which is a more natural spot for him. Melo's also a better fit to guard those bigger guards you're mentioning.

    And the best part is that they get rid of Lenard from the lineup, cause he's really stinking it up over there...

    Just my 2C.

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    Actually its not that bad a deal at all for any team. If were going to get an all star caliber player for Ron were going to have to include somebody like Tinsley or Jackson. In this scenario we give up both of them. Steven Jackson is no big loss.Your never going to win a title with Steven Jackson as your second option and we know hes not a good fit as a 3rd option because hes a high volume shooter and if he's not shooting the ball or involved in the offense his whole game suffers. Tinsley hurts to loose because when hes playing well hes one of the best pgs in the league but we hardly ever get that Tinsley because hes always out. By doing this trade you now get a second star to build around in Rahard Lewis and you can have a starting lineup that looks similar to this

    pg- Saras / AJ
    Sg- Granger/F.Jones/Murry
    Sf- R. Lewis/Evans
    PF-Oneal/Croshere
    C- Foster/Pollard/Harrison

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    It cuts the cancer out, but too much talent IMO. Also, Granger should be our SF playing at least some under the bucket blocking shots and rebounding...not guarding on the perimeter the majority of the time.

    Tins is worth hanging onto, I think. I would rather trade Ron and Jax for a SG upgrade. Then, I think we see improvement. BTW, it will be tough to get a better SG than Jax. There are many out there, but not available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel_81
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    Actually its not that bad a deal at all for any team. If were going to get an all star caliber player for Ron were going to have to include somebody like Tinsley or Jackson. In this scenario we give up both of them. Steven Jackson is no big loss.Your never going to win a title with Steven Jackson as your second option and we know hes not a good fit as a 3rd option because hes a high volume shooter and if he's not shooting the ball or involved in the offense his whole game suffers. Tinsley hurts to loose because when hes playing well hes one of the best pgs in the league but we hardly ever get that Tinsley because hes always out. By doing this trade you now get a second star to build around in Rahard Lewis and you can have a starting lineup that looks similar to this

    pg- Saras / AJ
    Sg- Granger/F.Jones/Murry
    Sf- R. Lewis/Evans
    PF-Oneal/Croshere
    C- Foster/Pollard/Harrison
    Actually, I thought more on the lines of:

    PG: Saras/AJ
    SG: Flip/Freddie
    SF: Lewis/Granger
    PF: Croshere/Evans/Granger
    C: ONeal/Foster/Pollard/Harrison

    Starters: Saras/Flip/Lewis/Croshere/ONeal
    Guards off the bench (in order): Freddie/AJ
    Swingmen off the bench (in order): Granger/Freddie
    PF/C off the bench (in order): Evans/Foster/Granger/Pollard/Harrison

    There are too many bigs on this lineup, but that's never a problem in this league. Trading a big like Pollard or Harrison for a decent swingman is easy. OTOH having a lot of bigs in a conference with Shaq cant hurt anyway.

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