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    I know the competition hasn't been that intense, but facts are facts - we can win without Ron Artest.
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    ....you didnt prove that last year?

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    ....you didnt prove that last year?
    That's the point. Even through suspensions and injuries, Artest was held up as the messiah of Indiana's Championship hopes. Others (myself included) voiced the truth - Artest PREVENTS title runs. This team is going through more than you should ask any team to go through and are facing teams hungry for opportunities to kick teams while they are down to improve their records.

    And guess what? Indiana is winning, despite it all. Just wait untill the new guys come and things settle down. I'll take our chances in seven games vs any team but two (Det and SAS) and we could even perform miracles and surprise those two.

    That's right mother****ers!!!!

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    ....you didnt prove that last year?
    Last year we proved that we were better than all but 2-3 teams in the Eastern conference without Ron (but with Reggie and Dale). Here's the truth: if Ron sits out this year, we're going to be lucky to get as far as we did last year, and there's no way we beat the Pistons in a 7 game series. There's just not enough talent. If all Donnie can land is a ok role player or an aging vet, then he might as well not bother.

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    LA. Did you watch the past two games. Yes they won, but their performance left a lot to be desired

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    It's been a good little stretch. I'm proud of my guys! They're giving me the warm fuzzies playin this way!!!!

    14-8. I'll take it!!!

    Go Pacers!!!!!!!!!!

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    LA. Did you watch the past two games. Yes they won, but their performance left a lot to be desired
    No, I'm going to actually have something meaningful to say about the games once I get home and watch them.

    Of course it left something to be desired. I think it's down-right assinign to expect this rag-tag bunch to play like the Spurs. But facts are facts - they're fighting through it and getting the W's in spite of adversity.
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    We were missing a whole lot more than Artest last year. I noticed we played our best ball without Jax on the floor. Danger was awesome. Now they just need to un-glue DH from the bench. What the heck was he doing on the bench with Jermaine having to contend with Jerome James?

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    Granger had a great game. he needs to be in the starting lineup.

    Could the reason Harrison and Fred did not play is because there is a trade involving them in the works? Because we could have used Harrison for at least a little bit tonight. I know they said Fred had a sprained ankle but that could be smoke.

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    Granger had a great game. he needs to be in the starting lineup.

    Could the reason Harrison and Fred did not play is because there is a trade involving them in the works? Because we could have used Harrison for at least a little bit tonight. I know they said Fred had a sprained ankle but that could be smoke.
    Freddy was definitely injured. I am not sure why David is not playing. I think many people are wondering. Fouls should not cause someone to get DNP's all year. I cannot think of a basketball reason for him to get no court time. I doubt he is being traded b/c his salary is so incredibly low. DOES ANYONE KNOW (OR HAVE ANY IDEA) WHY DH IS NAILED TO THE BENCH?

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    I know the competition hasn't been that intense, but facts are facts - we can win without Ron Artest.
    Yes, we can win without Artest about 50% of the time. We are a very average team right now.

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    I forgot about Fred hurting himself in the last game but I remember now.

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    I think DH is right where he should be

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    I think DH is right where he should be
    UB, please explain why you think that. He clearly has much potential.

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    UB, please explain why you think that. He clearly has much potential.


    He has looked terrible this season. His defense, whether it is team defense, where he has no clue as to what the team concepts are, or his one-on-one defense which has also been horrible. Twice when he was defending Dampier, DH just stood there as Damp went right around him. I honestly questioned DH's eye sight after that game. It looked like he was not even trying.

    Right now the Pacers are hanging together with silly- puddy, the last thing they need is to put someone out there who obviously does not have his head on right.

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    He has looked terrible this season. His defense, whether it is team defense, where he has no clue as to what the team concepts are, or his one-on-one defense which has also been horrible. Twice when he was defending Dampier, DH just stood there as Damp went right around him. I honestly questioned DH's eye sight after that game. It looked like he was not even trying.

    Right now the Pacers are hanging together with silly- puddy, the last thing they need is to put someone out there who obviously does not have his head on right.
    He has not been on the floor enough due to fouls, IMO. He may need to adjust to the speed of the game as well. I would not be surprised if your reasoning is correct, though. ...but they keep raving about his athleticism and potential to be the future C. It is just frustrating to see someone with that much potential...who is healthy...needs experience...languishing on the bench.

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    I thought we were 4-2 without Ron?
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    I thought we were 4-2 without Ron?
    I was counting consecutive games. Did I F that up? I'll change the title if I did.
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    I was counting consecutive games. Did I F that up? I'll change the title if I did.

    Ron missed a game earlier this season and the Pacers lost, so they are 4-2 in games Ron has not played

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    Ron missed a game earlier this season and the Pacers lost, so they are 4-2 in games Ron has not played
    Gotcha.

    But we're 4-1 since his "wrist ailment" and 2-1 since the "public request".

    That's enough for me.
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    If someone hasn't said it before i'll say it, 4-2 against who? We let
    the knicks kick our butts on the rebounds and that has a little less
    to do with the 3 spot.

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    Our play wasn't that good with Artest. Certainly not that of a contender. Let's just be done with him and build try to build a contender without him.
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