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    For what it is worth- posted by Pacers0506
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    "I just saw on ESPN News that the Pacers are mulling over two deals...one sending Artest and Pollard to Sacramento for Bonzi and Peja,and the other Artest to NY for Crawford and Q Rich.NOTHING IS OFFICIAL but this is just the latest update from Rick Beucher or whatever his name is.There was a third deal where the Pacers would get Jalen Rose in exchange for Artest and Croschere but they passed on it. The Pacers didn't want Rose."

    Anyone see this to confirm????

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    Out of those 2 I'd rarther have the NY deal...
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    I'd probably error on the side of doing neither. Why do we want to trade one nutcase for another??

    Nutcases:
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    For what it is worth- posted by Pacers0506
    From RATS board-http://www2.indystar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130189

    "I just saw on ESPN News that the Pacers are mulling over two deals...one sending Artest and Pollard to Sacramento for Bonzi and Peja,and the other Artest to NY for Crawford and Q Rich.NOTHING IS OFFICIAL but this is just the latest update from Rick Beucher or whatever his name is.There was a third deal where the Pacers would get Jalen Rose in exchange for Artest and Croschere but they passed on it. The Pacers didn't want Rose."

    Anyone see this to confirm????

    -J

    I dont know about getting both Bonzi and Peja, seems to good to be true.
    HOwever, they both have expiring contracts and we would not have the cash to sign them both.

    Crawford and Richardson are just two overpaid players.

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    I would do both of them

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    I would do both of them

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    With those two trades, I think I like the NY one better, Crawford is a good shooter, I remember he dropped 50 when he was on the Bulls.

    I still wouldn't be mad, if we did the Peja deal, because I still like Peja and plus we would move Ron to the west. I guess I would just hope Peja could stop his "choking" ways.

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    Default Re: Bucher reporting deal close...

    The RATS board read the other posts this guy reporting the rumor has made and decided it's a fake.

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    The RATS board read the other posts this guy reporting the rumor has made and decided it's a fake.
    Just read those too- sorry I kinda jumped the gun on this one maybe.

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    Well we're playing NY... and SAC is also playing tonight... maybe one will tip their hand that the deal is done...
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    Since Artest was once rumored to be traded for Wells straight up, the Sac deal sounds great.

    That is, if all this was actually reported.

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    I don't like either deal for us. I hope this isn't true. I don't think any of those guys would fit in well with the current team make up (unless we are going to make alternate trades to get rid of Jackson/Tinsley, etc.).

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    The Peja/Bonzi deal is fabulous. Thats 2 high quality starters for a nutjob and a guy who's a better comedian then he is a basketball player. That would allow us to start Bonzi, and send Jackson packing for a good backup bigman.

    But they're probably both fake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naptown Seth
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    The Peja/Bonzi deal is fabulous. Thats 2 high quality starters for a nutjob and a guy who's a better comedian then he is a basketball player. That would allow us to start Bonzi, and send Jackson packing for a good backup bigman.

    But they're probably both fake.
    I agree with most of this, and seth addresses my biggest concern. Losing Pollard, while not much on the surface, gives us one less bruiser for Shaq and any other good big man. If we pull the Sacto trade off as reported (fake or not), and then move Jax and whatever for a good quality big, I'll feel a whole lot better...

    BTW, did I mention that I LOVE the fact that it is being reported that Mo-Ron wants to stay now and we are still trading him?! It's just like when your girlfriend breaks up with you, leaves you doubting yourself, and then when you finally come back to your senses and move on, she comes back wanting you again....NO GREATER FEELING!! (Hey, it happened to me once!)



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    Of those two I like the Kings trade much more

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    Even if ESPN did report this I wouldn't believe it.

    1] Donnie is not going to trade for Bonzi, period.

    2] Look at Crawford and Richardsons deals, they total 13 million this year and a total of 90 million. Think Donnie would do that? No young players and no cap relief?

    This screams FAKE from the get go!

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    Probably not true, but I'd take the Peja/Bonzi deal EASILY.

    I can't believe anyone would say otherwise, really.

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    Probably not true, but I'd take the Peja/Bonzi deal EASILY.

    I can't believe anyone would say otherwise, really.
    I wouldn't say otherwise, I would scream it!

    Memphis didn't even want Bonzi on their playoff team last year, and Donnie Walsh is going to trade for him? NEVER!

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    People complain about Jackson ... god forbid we get Crawford, and Q .... they both shoot worse than he does.

    Our team shooting % would drop like a rock. In Q's last 3 years he's failed to shoot above 40%, and for Crawford it's the same thing for the last 2 years. Blech

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    People complain about Jackson ... god forbid we get Crawford, and Q .... they both shoot worse than he does.

    Our team shooting % would drop like a rock.
    You think Bonzi w/ his supposed reported past will mesh very well with Sarunas, Croshere, or Foster... He'd be worse then the Jackson-Sarunas passing problem we have now...
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    You think Bonzi w/ his supposed reported past will mesh very well with Sarunas, Croshere, or Foster... He'd be worse then the Jackson-Sarunas passing problem we have now...
    That's presumptuous. Bonzi isn't Jackson, you don't know how he will react to any given individual. You can't even begin to make that assumption. However, Crawford and Q can't shoot, and a new uniform won't magically make that change.

    Regardless, at least Bonzi can play defense, and Peja can shoot.

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    Do the Kings deal!
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    It's fake people! A guy over at IndyStar said he's been watching ESPN all day and nothing was ever mentioned about a possible deal. The only time Artest was mentioned was regarding the NBA P.A. challenging his $10,000 fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naptown Seth
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    It's fake people! A guy over at IndyStar said he's been watching ESPN all day and nothing was ever mentioned about a possible deal. The only time Artest was mentioned was regarding the NBA P.A. challenging his $10,000 fine.

    But if's it's true . . .

    How many posters will open with those words or words to that effect and still debate it?

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