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    Artest Goes To Radio To Explain Himself, Slams Magic Johnson


    POSTED: 3:55 pm EST December 16, 2005
    UPDATED: 6:10 pm EST December 16, 2005

    INDIANAPOLIS -- Indiana Pacers forward Ron Artest took to the radio airwaves in an effort to defend his reasons for wanting to leave the team.
    Speaking to WIBC radio Friday, Artest expressed hints of regret about how the trade talk started.
    Artest spoke with WIBC's Vince Welch and admitted he might have handled the situation poorly, RTV6's Wil Hampton reported.

    Previous Images: Pacers React To Artest's Trade Demand

    "I kind of messed up. I kind of did it the wrong way," Artest said
    Artest told the radio audience that he should have talked with coach Rick Carlisle before going public.
    "I should have done that. It's important to have a relationship with the coach. Ever since coach got here, I never had a close relationship with him," Artest said.
    Pacers CEO Donnie Walsh has tired of Artest's antics.
    "I haven't heard any of the interviews, so I don't know what was said," Walsh said. "When I spoke with Ronnie, I said, 'Look, you've asked for a trade. I'm going to go forward with that.' It'd be in our interest if we both didn't say a whole lot about this."
    Artest doubted there is any chance he could ever get back in good graces with the Pacers.
    "I think I've dug myself in a hole and there's no grip. I can't get back up," Artest said.
    Artest said some of the criticism he has received has been unfair. Former NBA great Magic Johnson said Artest doesn't deserve a second chance in the NBA.
    "It's like saying, 'Magic, should your wife give you another chance?'" Artest said "He's saying Ron Artest should have no more second chances. What's worse -- me saying I want to be traded or you cheating on your wife?"

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    Yes! Now that is awesome. Funny, I was thinking that before I clicked this thread. So many people questioning Ron's character, yet how many skeletons do these people have in their closet? Magic Johnson sits on plump booty with a big goofy smile on his face, puts on such a good guy image, yet this is a guy who admitted to cheating on his wife. And it wasn't just once, it was many, many times.
    What's worse - stupidly coming out and asking for a trade, or cheating on your supposed life partner?

    As the saying goes - let he who is without extramarital-induced HIV cast the first stone

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    Yow. It just keeps getting uglier. Ron is right though. Those in glass houses...but still...

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    Yow. It just keeps getting uglier. Ron is right though. Those in glass houses...but still...

    Ron's right? Well Magic was referrin to his antics and Ron should've have known to stop causin so much BS. Magic was critical and besides Magic said if Ron messes up one more time after he gets traded then he doesn't get another contract. Actually Ron has had tons of chances and Magic saying that isn't even a surprise. Seriously Artest is an idiot how can he be right? He should stop trying to be a philospher and just act right if he doesn't want anybody criticizing him. He's just totally disrespectful and an absolute IDIOT to even bring up Magic's wife. Magic is a paid analyst now, he just gave his opinion. Ron on the other hand is just an attention whore looking for an open mic and an audience.

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    Ron's right? Well Magic was referrin to his antics and Ron should've have known to stop causin so much BS. Magic was critical and besides Magic said if Ron messes up one more time after he gets traded then he doesn't get another contract. Actually Ron has had tons of chances and Magic saying that isn't even a surprise. Seriously Artest is an idiot how can he be right? He should stop trying to be a philospher and just act right if he doesn't want anybody criticizing him. He's just totally disrespectful and an absolute IDIOT to even bring up Magic's wife. Magic is a paid analyst now, he just gave his opinion. Ron on the other hand is just an attention whore looking for an open mic and an audience.
    Hey listen, if you've been here for any length of time, you know that I'm not one to defend Ron. That said, I stand by what I said: Those in glass houses... Who is Magic to indict anyone because of their destructive behavior? If you really want to get into the dark side of the NBA and sports in general, you have only to examine Magic's behavior while he was an NBA player.

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    Um, guys is my memory that bad???

    I, for some reason, remember that Magic got Married to Cookie after he announced he had H.I.V. or am I totally off base with that?

    Also let's not get into cheating spouses with Ron, because he has no rights to throw stones either.

    So, IMO, that makes him a two time loser in this debate.

    Not only did he F up in his job, but Ron has had a little extra on the side as well.

    As far as I know Magic was never ever ever close to being booted from the NBA let alone the Lakers.

    BTW, does anybody really believe that Magic was any worse than any other baller back in the day with the women?


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    Um, guys is my memory that bad???

    I, for some reason, remember that Magic got Married to Cookie after he announced he had H.I.V. or am I totally off base with that?
    No, he was married, and she was pregnant. He said the worst part was waiting for the results on the child.

    BTW, does anybody really believe that Magic was any worse than any other baller back in the day with the women?
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    Um, guys is my memory that bad???

    I, for some reason, remember that Magic got Married to Cookie after he announced he had H.I.V. or am I totally off base with that?

    Also let's not get into cheating spouses with Ron, because he has no rights to throw stones either.

    So, IMO, that makes him a two time loser in this debate.

    Not only did he F up in his job, but Ron has had a little extra on the side as well.

    As far as I know Magic was never ever ever close to being booted from the NBA let alone the Lakers.

    BTW, does anybody really believe that Magic was any worse than any other baller back in the day with the women?
    You know for certain that Ron has cheated on his wife? And all ballers were unfaithful to their partners "back in the day?" Quite some generalizations there, Peck.

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    Hey listen, if you've been here for any length of time, you know that I'm not one to defend Ron. That said, I stand by what I said: Those in glass houses... Who is Magic to indict anyone because of their destructive behavior? If you really want to get into the dark side of the NBA and sports in general, you have only to examine Magic's behavior while he was an NBA player.

    nah dude you listen. Ron's cooments were out of line while Magic's was relevant to the subject at hand. Ron got criticized because of his actions that have been currently the talk of basketball country and Magic is a paid analyst and what was wrong with what he said? he said that one more incident from Ron after he gets traded then he doesn't get another contract. SERIOUSLY Ron is lucky to be still in the league after all the BS he's done. had he not had his talent trust me he'd be playing in a third world country now. and whatever grudge or history or whatever snot you have on Magic does not interest me. Ron was wrong so for you to say he's right makes me think you're a knucklehead yourself

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    "It's like saying, 'Magic, should your wife give you another chance?'" Artest said "He's saying Ron Artest should have no more second chances. What's worse -- me saying I want to be traded or you cheating on your wife?"
    That's a pretty nice quip from Ron - I'm impressed!
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    Wow. I didn't take the trade demand personally, but I take that personally. You don't knock a man's marriage. I hope we do trade him to LA, so Magic can kick his ***.
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    Ron is right as far as Magic is concerned. Who is he to say someone doesn't deserve a second chance.

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    Ron is right as far as Magic is concerned. Who is he to say someone doesn't deserve a second chance.
    Do you really think this is only Ron's second chance? I haven't read through Jay's list recently, but I think it's more like his 158th.
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    Do you really think this is only Ron's second chance? I haven't read through Jay's list recently, but I think it's more like his 158th.
    Whatever "chance" you want to make this, the point remains the same. Who is Magic Johnson to determine that Ron should be out of the NBA.

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    Who is Magic Johnson to determine that Ron should be out of the NBA.
    Only a vice-president and co-owner of one of the most respected teams in the league.
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    What was Magic's exact quote. I heard him say that Ron can't mess up again or he will be out of the NBA. But I didn't hear him sat he doesn't deserve a second chance.
    "They could turn out to be only innocent mathematicians, I suppose," muttered Woevre's section officer, de Decker.

    "'Only.'" Woevre was amused. "Someday you'll explain to me how that's possible. Seeing that, on the face of it, all mathematics leads, doesn't it, sooner or later, to some kind of human suffering."

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    What was Magic's exact quote. I heard him say that Ron can't mess up again or he will be out of the NBA. But I didn't hear him sat he doesn't deserve a second chance.
    Is it this?

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    Magic on Ron Artest’s request to be traded from Indiana: “This is the last incident that (Ron Artest) can have, and I want him to understand that. Anything follows this and he won’t get a contract in the NBA. He cannot do anything after this if he gets his trade. T hat’s it, because anything after this two-year contract is up, trust me, he won’t be in the NBA.”



    Barkley on whether or not trading for Ron Artest is worth taking the risk: “You can’t put (Ron Artest) on a young team because he’s going to corrupt your young guys…(Teams should only trade for him) if there’s a slight chance that he can put you over the hump, so there’s about five teams that should be trying to get him.”

    Smith: “You can’t depend on him to build your team around, so (teams that need a lot of help) don’t have an opportunity. It’s got to be a team who says we’re trying to win (a championship), and we’re trying to win it now. We need Ron.”

    Barkley: “I’d send him to Vancouver if I was the GM.”
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    Is it this?

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    Magic on Ron Artest’s request to be traded from Indiana: “This is the last incident that (Ron Artest) can have, and I want him to understand that. Anything follows this and he won’t get a contract in the NBA. He cannot do anything after this if he gets his trade. T hat’s it, because anything after this two-year contract is up, trust me, he won’t be in the NBA.”
    That is what I heard Magic say. If this is what Ron is responding to Ron is in the wrong.

    Also it is nice to see Ron raise his trade value by going after a co-owner of a team interested in him.
    "They could turn out to be only innocent mathematicians, I suppose," muttered Woevre's section officer, de Decker.

    "'Only.'" Woevre was amused. "Someday you'll explain to me how that's possible. Seeing that, on the face of it, all mathematics leads, doesn't it, sooner or later, to some kind of human suffering."

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    He is telling the truth

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    Classy.

    Not that I would have expected Ron to be the bigger man.

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    Wow. Artest speaks of digging a hole with the Pacers, now he's working on the NBA as a whole. Magic, regardless of his issues, is a well respected guy in the league, not to mention a legend on the court. I don't have a problem with using basketball topics in wars-of-words, but, that, IMO, is uncalled for. It may be true, but it does not belong in a basketball conversation.
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    Yeeahhh..... bye Ron. That's just stupid.
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    He brought someone's personal life into his professional screw up. At this point expiring contracts are starting to look good.

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    One talks away his career, the other screwed away his career.
    If you have egg on your face you should stay out of the sun.

    I care neither way.
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