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    I dont agree with you at all.

    ANd while some NBA fans will agree with you, I doubt you will find many, if any, that will say character doesnt matter after what we have been through with Ronnie
    Ron Ron isn't all bad, he just has some bad friends and/or some deep-rooted cerebral issues he just simply can't deal with effectively.

    To hicks ... yes I was a Ron Artest supporter until this past weekend. I make no apologies for supporting him, as did many people. As far as I know Ron Ron's problem was cerebral and not racism. In any regard, I don't plan on taking any of them out on a golf outing so what do I care if they are ignorant? As long as they don't let it affect their game I could care less whether Bonzi has racists views. Who gives a ****. There's ALOT of people who say they're not racist but sometimes are, so what's the differrence anyway? When I hear that he point blank disses a people because of their skin color or religious preference then I might change my view, but something insignificant he may have said year sago makes no difference to me at all. And Muncie Indiana is certainly not a group of saints. I've heard even recently of a racist problem they have there, and it was towards blacks. It's nothing unless it's in my face, and then I'll take offense to it, until then, all I want is for a player to keep his focus on winning basketball games and being a supportive member of the Pacers. Outside of that is his personal life, and I really don't care who he likes/dislikes! That's my honest opinion.

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    Isn't Al a FA after the season? do we really want that?
    Yes, and that's a good question. It all depends on what he's commanding.

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    Yeah, chemistry is so overrated.
    I don't think that's what he meant. I think he's saying he wants someone to focus on winning championships and support his fellow teammates, and be an all around professional. That's the way I took what naptown seth meant.

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    You must hate Sheed then.

    Oh yeah, the Hockey fanatic Sheed is, he REALLY hates white people.....

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    Oh yeah, the Hockey fanatic Sheed is, he REALLY hates white people.....
    That's racist!

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    Only way I would think about the Bonzi trade is if they threw in Fransico Garcia. I checked and a Ron for Bonzi and Garcia actually works out. I'm just not a huge bonzi fan

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    ahh yes... Bonzi Wells. Ron Artest-lite

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    Thats my boy JO, Git r done Donnie.

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    Oh yeah, the Hockey fanatic Sheed is, he REALLY hates white people.....
    He made some very racially inflammatory remarks while in Portland.

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    He made some very racially inflammatory remarks while in Portland.
    like what? Not that I don't believe you, Sheed definately talks a lot. But, I am just wondering how bad it was.

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    He made some very racially inflammatory remarks while in Portland.
    Enlighten me.

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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    I think this is the quote he's talking about:

    "I ain't no dumb-*** n*gger out here. I'm not like a whole bunch of these young boys out here who get caught up and captivated into the league," Wallace, 29, said. "No. I see behind the lines. I see behind the false screens. I know what this business is all about. I know the commissioner of this league makes more than three-quarters of the players in this league.

    "There's a whole lot of crunching numbers that, quote-unquote, me as an athlete and me as an NBA player should know. In my opinion, they just want to draft n*ggers who are dumb and dumber -- straight out of high school. That's why they're drafting all these high school cats, because they come into the league and they don't know no better. They don't know no better, and they don't know the real business, and they don't see behind the charade.

    "They look at black athletes like we're dumb-*** n*ggers. It's as if we're just going to shut up, sign for the money and do what they tell us."

    I don't think it's as bad as Bonzi spitting on Danny Ferry and calling him "honky." It's stupid nonetheless.

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    I think this is the quote he's talking about:

    "I ain't no dumb-*** n*gger out here. I'm not like a whole bunch of these young boys out here who get caught up and captivated into the league," Wallace, 29, said. "No. I see behind the lines. I see behind the false screens. I know what this business is all about. I know the commissioner of this league makes more than three-quarters of the players in this league.

    "There's a whole lot of crunching numbers that, quote-unquote, me as an athlete and me as an NBA player should know. In my opinion, they just want to draft n*ggers who are dumb and dumber -- straight out of high school. That's why they're drafting all these high school cats, because they come into the league and they don't know no better. They don't know no better, and they don't know the real business, and they don't see behind the charade.

    "They look at black athletes like we're dumb-*** n*ggers. It's as if we're just going to shut up, sign for the money and do what they tell us."

    I don't think it's as bad as Bonzi spitting on Danny Ferry and calling him "honky." It's stupid nonetheless.
    I remember that whole statement.

    Very stupid thing to say, and I think he's grown up a lot since then.

    Also, those were not racist remarks. Inflammatory, but not biggoted.

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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    Oh yeah, the Hockey fanatic Sheed is, he REALLY hates white people.....
    There are white racists who are NBA fans

    *edit* To clarify I don't know one way or another right now if Rasheed is racist or not; only to say that that's a weak argument.

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    We don't run around, we don't do the fancy passes, we don't do any of that stuff. We don't have the space, especially with me being on the team. It gets real crowded, and guys help a lot against our team.
    ..whaaat?

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    Also, those were not racist remarks. Inflammatory, but not bigoted.
    Um, you can read between the lines. They're pretty bigoted. Who do you think he was referring to?

    "They look at black athletes like we're dumb-*** n*ggers. It's as if we're just going to shut up, sign for the money and do what they tell us."

    Who is "they?"

    Plus he's generalizing. He's saying white owners and GMs look at "black athletes like they're dumb-*** n*ggers." That's pretty insulting. And there's a lot of anger and vitriol directed toward whites there.

    Like I said, read between the lines.

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    Guys guys, chill. You are ruining a great topic of Jermaine O'Neal wanting Al Harrington back here.

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    I remember that whole statement.

    Very stupid thing to say, and I think he's grown up a lot since then.

    Also, those were not racist remarks. Inflammatory, but not biggoted.
    "They look at black athletes like we're dumb-*** n*ggers. It's as if we're just going to shut up, sign for the money and do what they tell us."
    That sounds awfully racist to me.

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    *carefully steps over the racial concerns*

    Remember JO played with Bonzi in Portland. Personally, I think the guy is repulsive, but perhaps Jermaine thinks he can reign him in.
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    That sounds awfully racist to me.
    Yes, if similar remarks were made by a white athlete (tonally), blacks would be asking for that player's head on a silver platter.

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    Yes, if similar remarks were made by a white athlete (tonally), blacks would be asking for that player's head on a silver platter.

    There is nothing demeaning in there about white people. I think some of you are lost on the concept of racism.

    And yes, there's a double-standard. Just like there are 2 million double-standards in the world that work AGAINST black people. Life isn't fair, and If that's the worst that it gets, I'm very lucky.

    In a lot of ways, I can understand his frustration. It was just very badly misplaced.

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    There is nothing demeaning in there about white people. I think some of you are lost on the concept of racism.

    And yes, there's a double-standard. Just like there are 2 million double-standards in the world that work AGAINST black people. Life isn't fair, and If that's the worst that it gets, I'm very lucky.

    In a lot of ways, I can understand his frustration. It was just very badly misplaced.
    You can quit defending the guy. No man can know what's in another man's heart, but those comments are pretty telling.

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    You can quit defending the guy. No man can know what's in another man's heart, but those comments are pretty telling.
    Telling, yes. Racist, no. There was nothing in there demeaning to white people.

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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    I don't want Wells here.
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    Telling, yes. Racist, no. There was nothing in there demeaning to white people.
    Demeaning? That's debatable. Insulting? Definitely. Bigoted? Prejudiced? Yes.

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