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  • Whiny O'neal

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  • Wacko Jacko

    23 48.94%
  • Sulky Tinsley

    15 31.91%
  • Crazy Artest

    8 17.02%
  • ShortFuse Harrison

    1 2.13%
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Thread: biggest chemistry problem creator

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    cracktower
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    Default biggest chemistry problem creator

    Many people( starting from Reggie to people in the forum) are saying we have chemistry issues and too many volatile players.

    Sadly, it seems to be true.

    O'neal= Moody, Whiny and big show off with a mouth on the court

    Jackson= even more moody and has a short fuse

    Artest = love the guy, plays hard, does not complaine or trashtalk, but seems to be and creats a lot of off the court distraction.

    Tinsley = Sulks , pouts and likes to engage in one to one game vs opposing teams point guard.

    Harrison= used to be crazy in college and still seems to have the short fuse.

    I am not saying we should trade anyone, but who do you think is the biggest problem.

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    If there was ever a thread designed to start a war, this is it.

    That being said, I like all of our players as individuals. There's nobody you can point to and say "He's the problem." But everything's not fitting together right now, and I'm not convinced that it will.
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    I have no idea. On the court, I'd go with Jackson. He's the #3 guy trying to be a #2 guy and he seems to be the most violatile.
    Off the court, behind the scenes, I have no idea. I doubt it's J.O. though.

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    Anthem, I have no intention of starting a war. I just want to know what my fellow fans think.

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    I'm most concerned about Tinsley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorCal_Pacerfan
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    I'm most concerned about Tinsley.
    Me too. What did Reggie say on the Cleveland/Pacer telecast. When Tinsley plays great so do the Pacers.

    http://s63.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...N0RRLA648N29MC

    So my reasoning is, when Tins is in a funk, being the point guard he has to hurt this team more than anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Galen
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    Me too. What did Reggie say on the Cleveland/Pacer telecast. When Tinsley plays great so do the Pacers.

    http://s63.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...N0RRLA648N29MC

    So my reasoning is, when Tins is in a funk, being the point guard he has to hurt this team more than anyone else.
    Tinsley gets too much credit for the teams ills. We took a couple of L's against teams we should beat without Tinsley playing.

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    That poll sounds like a 7 Dwarves roll call.

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    Shortsighted Carisle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hicks
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    That poll sounds like a 7 Dwarves roll call.
    There is an AJ joke in there somewhere

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    A private poll?? BOOOO!!!!
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    A private poll?? BOOOO!!!!
    I know :

    I voted for Wacko Jacko..

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    If the question is being asked is- Who is responsible for the chemistry problems on this team, then you left off two entities that should be included in the possibilities:

    Rick Carlisle (Inability to pull the team together and get them in line or play to their strengths)

    Pacer management (for putting this collection together and sticking with it)

    There's also the possibility there isn't just one bad apple, altho if that is the case then "Pacer Management" probably is the answer to choose.


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    Eddie Gill.

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    I voted for Tinsley.

    No Tinsley = Musical Chairs at the starting PG position = different way the offense is run from night to night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Galen
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    Me too. What did Reggie say on the Cleveland/Pacer telecast. When Tinsley plays great so do the Pacers.

    http://s63.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...N0RRLA648N29MC

    So my reasoning is, when Tins is in a funk, being the point guard he has to hurt this team more than anyone else.
    Yep.

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    I have to go with Wacko Jacko. JO and Ronnie seem to have a great relationship. Ron is unhappy with his touches (which I think is crazy considering he averages over 19ppg) and SJax is the one who takes some of those away. I think that that it comes down to either SJax or Ronnie leaving and I have to say Jackson should be gone.


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    I have to go with Wacko Jacko. JO and Ronnie seem to have a great relationship. Ron is unhappy with his touches (which I think is crazy considering he averages over 19ppg) and SJax is the one who takes some of those away. I think that that it comes down to either SJax or Ronnie leaving and I have to say Jackson should be gone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bball
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    If the question is being asked is- Who is responsible for the chemistry problems on this team, then you left off two entities that should be included in the possibilities:

    Rick Carlisle (Inability to pull the team together and get them in line or play to their strengths)

    Pacer management (for putting this collection together and sticking with it)

    There's also the possibility there isn't just one bad apple, altho if that is the case then "Pacer Management" probably is the answer to choose.


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    Bball, you are right. Carlisle and Larry should have been included in the poll too.

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    just wondering, who do you think is the biggest problem now( after artest trade demand)

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    Depends on who we get back.....but there's a part of me that wants to ship out Artest, Tinsley, SJax...all at once....solve lingering problems over the last 3 years in 1 fell swoop.
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    I voted Tinsley. This may have already been said, but from what I've seen this season I conclude about our PG's : when Tinsley plays well, the team gells alright, but not great. We get a few easy baskets, but not as many as when Saras is on the court.

    When he plays bad, there's certainly not gonna come much ball movement from him. Saras has the ability to always keep the teammates involved, regardless of how his shot goes or how bad he is matched up against his defender. In spite of Tinsley's superior ball handling, that's just how it is.

    But certainly the problem lies not with one man only.
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