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    This whole thread is kinda pointless and dumb....
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    This whole thread is kinda pointless and dumb....
    Either your post or this entire thread belongs in the shout box then. Preferably in the random thoughts thread because we have something wonderful and special going in the "structured, carefully well-thought out thoughts" thread. Don't want to sully that.

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    To almost everyone this comment will be premature...maybe even to me, but this is what I think.

    I have less fear of the Heat after witnessing that game. I do not think this Heat team is improved over last years' team. In fact, I think there will be a drop off unless something truly magical happens with the combination of talents they bring to the floor.

    Williams is not a good fit for the team at all. Losing Damon and Eddie Jones has damaged their perimeter game.

    "The glove" is simply not the player he used to be and has not aged well. He is a good backup, but that's about it.

    Walker does not appear capable of playing good defense...and to get into the game typically takes several shots in bursts if he hits the first one. This will lead to ill advised shots at times, taking the ball out of Wade and Shaq's hands if they are on the floor...and possibly causing chemistry problems. Walker is a great player, but I think only as the #1 option. That will not work against the Pistons or Pacers. However, if the Heat is able to get Walker to fit into the team well, then I will change my tune. For example, if he ONLY plays when Shaq is on the bench, it might work. All the other players added are irrelevant.

    Also, I did not think Shaq moved particularly well. I think his enlarged size, at his age, hurts his defense significantly. He is still a beast on the block but does not appear to have the same lift and quickness on offense as well. Maybe it was an off night. Hopefully it is his new game at 350lbs. I think once we get Scottie back, we will have enough bulk to keep Shaq's numbers in check.
    I think its very early. I think Miami will need December and January to jell. I don't think they're done making moves because I don't think Jason Williams will last very long down there.

    By the second half of the season, they could easily be the team to beat (if Shaq and Wade are healthy, of course.)

    Frankly, I look for Miami to make one of those "championship moves" at the trading deadlines while the Pacers stand pat.
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    I really dont thino Indy has to worry about anyone besides San Antonio this year. Detroit just doesnt have "it" anymore, and if we stay healthy we definantly do.

    Replaceing the great Larry Brown with the mediocre Flip Saunders was the most overlooked move of the season.
    So how do you make that conclusion two games into the season?

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    Frankly, I look for Miami to make one of those "championship moves" at the trading deadlines while the Pacers stand pat.

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    Rumors of my demise (from the darkside) are greatly exaggerated.

    Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
    Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
    Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
    Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
    And life itself, rushing over me
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    Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you


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    I just love starting "dumb" threads. I makes me feel all pointless and tingly inside. Hopefully I can continue this trend without too much thinking on my part.
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    As long as Rip Hamilton is a Piston then the Pistons have a chance of beating us on any night. Simple as that.

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    You gotta watchout for Rip in this offense, he gets way more open looks in his spots than before. So far he's averaging 31.5ppg on 63% shooting. I realize it won't last at this clip (he's bound to have a few stinkers), but he's definately more dangerous in this offense.

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    He may be getting more open looks, but then you haven't played a good defensive team yet. Do you expect him to be so open vs us, or San Antonio?

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    You gotta watchout for Rip in this offense, he gets way more open looks in his spots than before. So far he's averaging 31.5ppg on 63% shooting. I realize it won't last at this clip (he's bound to have a few stinkers), but he's definately more dangerous in this offense.
    you're right rip is good, but we can stop all your other players.

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    you're right rip is good, but we can stop all your other players.
    You haven't had much luck in the past.

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    You haven't had much luck in the past.
    Four words for you my fellow basketball fan, RON ARTEST IS BACK!!!

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    Four words for you my fellow basketball fan, RON ARTEST IS BACK!!!

    Wasn't he there 2 years ago?

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    Two years ago, the only Piston that we couldn't stop was Rip. He was the difference in that series.
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    Four words for you my fellow basketball fan, RON ARTEST IS BACK!!!
    Yea, we played against him in the ECF in 04. Rip torched him, and Artest resorted to close lining him because he couldn't keep up. The only guy that can get to Rip is Bowen. Who is Ron going to lock down on our team if he can't lock down Rip? Tayshaun? Big whoop, he didn't do jack last year anyways. So nothing will change.

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    Yea, we played against him in the ECF in 04. Rip torched him, and Artest resorted to close lining him because he couldn't keep up. Who is Ron going to lock down on our team if he can't lock down Rip? Tayshaun? Big whoop, he didn't do jack last year anyways. It won't make a difference.
    That was actually more Rip flopping, than Ron close lining him, but as soon as a ref sees a player on the floor next to Ron its automatically considered a flagrant foul.





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    That was actually more Rip flopping, than Ron close lining him, but as soon as a ref sees a player on the floor next to Ron its automatically considered a flagrant foul.
    You obviously didn't watch the game. It was as blatant as they come. He even admitted it after the game. His exact words were "I threw an Elbow. It was over"

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    We will beat Detroit if Tinsley, Jackson, and Sarunas have a big series. Everyone else just has to not screw it up.

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    I'm getting sick of this.......


    Rip did some acting, too.
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    You obviously didn't watch the game. It was as blatant as they come. He even admitted it after the game. His exact words were "I threw an Elbow. It was over"
    First off I did watch the game, Second off Rip hit Ron in the groin with his elbow and the refs didnt seem to care or do a thing. Only after did Ron raise his arm which Rip saw as a way to take advantage and he ran into it his arm and flopped to the floor.





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    The foreaarm and the act to sell the hit were both real.

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    IMO I thought it looked like Ron raised the arm, and Rip ran into it and flopped. But either way, there's not much point in discussing it. If FP were actually interested in a fair discussion, he would point out observable trends in the Rip vs Ron matchup throughout the course of the series. Instead, he makes one questionable play that invariably seems to ignite flamewars between Pacers and Pistons fans the emphasis of his post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hicks
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    The foreaarm and the act to sell the hit were both real.
    I agree with Hicks.

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    Pacers have been better than Detroit since 2004, they've just been too injured. As long as we stay healthy, I honestly think a sweep isnt out of the question.

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