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    I didn't see tonight's game (I followed it on yahoo), but from looking at the scores around the league, especially in our conference, our offense looks anemic:

    Boston 114
    New York 100

    Milwaukee 110
    New Jersey 96

    Cleveland 109
    NO/Okla City 87

    Detroit 108
    Philadelphia 88

    Washington 99
    Toronto 96

    Miami 97
    Memphis 78

    Indiana 90
    Orlando 78

    Yeah, I know, a win is a win, but it looks like these other teams have stepped it up offensively. We don't. I'm just going by the scores, mind you, but can anyone shed some light on this for me.

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    Too early in the season to tell I say.

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    Indiana just doesn't run much. That's never been Carlisle's style, and it never will be. His offenses have been last in the NBA in fast break points 2 out of his 4 coaching seasons, or something like that....

    on the bright side, you did hold an offensive team under 80....

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    I don't care too much. If you look, we gave up the least amount of points. That's all I care about.
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    Our offense looked pretty sloppy/rusty tonight, especially in the first half or so of the game. It got better late though, and we still managed to shoot good %'s.

    We seemed to share the ball a lot more willlingly...
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    Its the first game of the season, and when has our offense looked high powerd, we always score in the high 80's to low 90's.But I bet none of those team score that many points on us. And ohh man the Heat had a whole 7 points more then us, we should be worried.

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    A lot of those 'losing' teams are not defensive stalwarts.

    Of course, neither is Orlando.

    Seemed to me there was plenty of "walk it up, slow it down" during tonight's game.

    Usually opening night (and first week) scores are low because teams usually get in-sync faster on defense than offense, so this is a bit wierd.
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    I don't care too much. If you look, we gave up the least amount of points. That's all I care about.
    Miami held Memphis to 78 as well.

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    I don't care too much. If you look, we gave up the least amount of points. That's all I care about.
    Very good point, maybe those other team should worry about how good our defense is.

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    Miami held Memphis to 78 as well.
    But they didn't score that much more than us. It's nothing I'd really be worried about. We shot a good percentage, had balanced scoring. I'm fine with that.

    Plus it's the first game. I'd be willing to bet our offense will get better.
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    Usually opening night (and first week) scores are low because teams usually get in-sync faster on defense than offense, so this is a bit wierd.
    Maybe you should tell that to our conference rivals, especially Milwaukee, Detroit and Cleveland.

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    I'm not sure we should try to run a whole hell of a lot. Our strength offensively is in our variety of post options.
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    Uh, Harm, remind me to introduce you to our coach sometime. Nice guy, looks alot like MagicRat. Maybe Boyle can get him to come to the forum party.
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    Maybe you need to tell that to our conference rivals, especially Milwaukee, Detroit and Cleveland.
    That's why my first comment was that some of the losing teams (Jersey, Hornets, Philly) aren't really known these days for great defense.

    I think the PD All-stars could put up 50-60 points against those defenses, let alone a team with pro caliber players.
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    I think the PD All-stars could put up 50-60 points against those defenses
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    I'm not sure we should try to run a whole hell of a lot. Our strength offensively is in our variety of post options.
    While I competely agree with your second point (our post offense), I totally disagree with your first point.

    First, you should always try to score as many easy points as possible. This ain't Olympic diving, there's no 'bonus' for voluntarily selecting harder shots.

    Secondly, because our best half-court options generally all involve JO, David, and Ron in the post, it is even more important to get as many baskets in transition as possible.
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    there's no 'bonus' for voluntarily selecting harder shots
    ...so what would you call the three-point line?

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    Have a fun time convincing Carlise you want to become a fast break team, btw. Your best options are all halfcourt scorers, and Carlisle has had a lot of success with his offense.

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    If we could've gotten a defensive rebound before Granger was put back in we could've had more possessions and possibly could've scored more points.

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    ...so what would you call the three-point line?
    Fool's gold?
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    Fool's gold?

    Ugh. How I wish it was.... we'd still be the defending champs.

    Tell that to Robert "fool's gold" Horry.

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    Indiana just doesn't run much. That's never been Carlisle's style, and it never will be. His offenses have been last in the NBA in fast break points 2 out of his 4 coaching seasons, or something like that....

    on the bright side, you did hold an offensive team under 80....
    That's pretty well covers it. Our O was also sloppy a lot last night as well. Probably took 5-10 pts off our score. Orlando also got a lot of offensive rebounds off of fortunate bounces off the rim, which also gave them more points.

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    I don't care too much. If you look, we gave up the least amount of points. That's all I care about.
    That only means we played slow-ball. If you're saying that playing slow-ball is all you care about, then fine. Somebody has to enjoy watching turtles play against snails.

    But if you're trying to extrapolate that the Pacers played the best defense out of all of those games, simply because the score was low, I'm not sure you can really do that.
    Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
    Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
    Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
    Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
    And life itself, rushing over me
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    Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you


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    That only means we played slow-ball. If you're saying that playing slow-ball is all you care about, then fine. Somebody has to enjoy watching turtles play against snails.

    But if you're trying to extrapolate that the Pacers played the best defense out of all of those games, simply because the score was low, I'm not sure you can really do that.
    I couldn't watch, so I couldn't tell you. I'm assuming the defense was somewhat decent.
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