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    Default Marc Stien expects the Mavs to waive Finley..... (Finley waived; updated post #21)

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    The Phoenix Suns are on the verge of at least one big-name score from the waiver wire.

    The agent for Brian Grant told ESPN.com on Monday night that the veteran big man, released via the new amnesty clause by the Los Angeles Lakers last Wednesday, plans to sign with the Suns later this week.

    "Unless something changes dramatically, [Phoenix] is where Brian wants to be," said agent Mark Bartlestein.

    The Suns, one of an estimated 20 teams to show interest in Grant since his L.A. release, are expected to sign the 33-year-old to a two-year deal starting at $1.67 million after he clears waivers Wednesday.

    Phoenix will then try to complete its dream haul by signing Michael Finley, although that task figures to be much tougher.

    The Dallas Mavericks were expected to make Finley their amnesty player by midnight Monday -- after dogged attempts to trade him away first -- but the Suns will have the least to offer financially of the elite teams hoping to land Finley: $1.1 million next season.

    The San Antonio Spurs have just over half of their $5 million mid-level exception remaining to woo Finley, and the top two teams in the East are offering more. The Miami Heat and the Detroit Pistons will be offering Finley a contract starting at the full mid-level exception, as will the on-the-rise Denver Nuggets.

    The Suns clearly have a great need for Finley, with Joe Johnson headed to Atlanta in a sign-and-trade deal that was agreed to late last month and which should finally be completed by Friday. Yet they're also eager to land Grant as part of a revamped front line that also features newcomer Kurt Thomas.


    Thomas and Grant are smaller than the ever-improving Amare Stoudemire, but both bangers have considerable experience playing center. That means Suns coach Mike D'Antoni will now have two veteran options to play alongside Stoudemire, who emerged as an All-Star center last season but who prefers to play power forward.

    Grant was one of three players acquired by the Lakers last summer in the Shaquille O'Neal trade with Miami. Knee and neck injuries, though, limited the 6-9, 250-pounder to career-lows in scoring (3.8 ppg), rebounding (3.7 rpg) and minutes (16.5 mpg).

    The introduction of the amnesty clause gave the Lakers an opportunity to release Grant without paying any further luxury tax on his contract. With two years left on that contract, Grant is still owed nearly $30 million from the Lakers.

    Grant's offer from the Suns comes with a one-year guarantee and a player option for the second season as the 11-year-veteran tries to re-establish himself after his '04-05 misery. Grant has career averages of 10.7 points and 7.6 rebounds.

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    Default Re: Marc Stien expects the Mavs to waive Finley.....

    We'll find out in less than 3 hours.

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    Default Re: Marc Stien expects the Mavs to waive Finley.....

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    We'll find out in less than 3 hours.
    3 hrs 52 minutes, not that I am counting down or anything

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    Default Re: Marc Stien expects the Mavs to waive Finley.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Shade
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    We'll find out in less than 3 hours.
    It's just under 2 hours now....I think....thought it was 10:00pm out east right now.
    "It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."

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    3 hrs 52 minutes, not that I am counting down or anything
    I think you need a new clock...
    "It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."

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    It's just under 2 hours now....I think....thought it was 10:00pm out east right now.
    Oh, yeah...plus the stupid Indy time thing.

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    Oh, yeah...plus the stupid Indy time thing.
    Our daylight savings time in Arizona is cool. We never have to actually change our time; it just adjusts off everyone else moving their time.
    "It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."

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    Our daylight savings time in Arizona is cool. We never have to actually change our time; it just adjusts off everyone else moving their time.
    Same here although, not for long as we will be observing Daylight Savings very soon.

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    Gosssh, why does everyone have Pacer at the start of there SNs? It's sooo confusing. When you guys post, I consider you guys all the same people.

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    Gosssh, why does everyone have Pacer at the start of there SNs? It's sooo confusing. When you guys post, I consider you guys all the same people.
    FINE!!! My new user name is... Person from AZ that's a Pacer Fan.

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    "It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SjA3837
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    Gosssh, why does everyone have Pacer at the start of there SNs? It's sooo confusing. When you guys post, I consider you guys all the same people.

    darn it !!! I have had my username since late 90's I can't change it now. Arghhhh. Then again.. perhaps it;s time for a Change. ..hmmm

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    Haha it's fine, I just get you guys and the many others mixed up often.

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    FINE!!! My new user name is... Person from AZ that's a Pacer Fan.

    Rolls off the tongue much better.
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    FINE!!! My new user name is... Person from AZ that's a Pacer Fan.

    Rolls off the tongue much better.
    It has a nice little ring to it .

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    Default Re: Marc Stien expects the Mavs to waive Finley.....

    And do you all have to have similar signatures? It confounds and infuriates me.

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    Default Re: Marc Stien expects the Mavs to waive Finley.....

    This just appeared on ESPN.com


    DALLAS -- Michael Finley's final day with the Dallas Mavericks arrived Monday, when the team waived its longtime leader and captain, ESPN.com's Marc Stein has learned.

    Under a one-time amnesty provision in the NBA's new labor contract, the Mavericks saved $51 million in luxury taxes over the next three years by waiving Finley, who would become an unrestricted free agent.

    Finley would still be guaranteed the $51 million left on his contract, plus whatever money he gets from a new team. He wouldn't be able to re-sign with the Mavericks until his original contract expires after the 2007-08 season, when he will be 35.

    The deadline for taking advantage of the amnesty provision was midnight ET Monday.

    Finley was traded to the Mavericks from Phoenix on Dec. 26, 1996, and is the longest-tenured player on the Dallas roster. He averaged 19.8 points for the Mavericks over 626 games the past 8˝ seasons.

    The Mavericks reportedly have already found Finley's replacement.

    Reports out of Texas said the Mavericks have reached an oral agreement with veteran swingman Doug Christie on a one-year, $3 million deal. Before Christie officially becomes a Maverick, he must wait seven days to clear waivers, according to league rules.

    Christie was waived Thursday by the Orlando Magic under the same amnesty clause.

    Finley was an All-Star before Steve Nash and Dirk Nowitzki were, then together that trio became known as the "Big Three" -- taking the Mavericks from being one of the league's worst teams to having at least 50 wins and going to the playoffs four straight seasons. Nash left as a free agent last summer to the Suns.

    In 2001, Finley signed a maximum contract of $100-plus million over seven years. The Mavericks owe him about $16 million for 2005-06, with salaries of roughly $17 million and $18 million over the next two seasons.

    This past season, Finley had some of the lowest averages in his 12 NBA seasons, scoring 15.7 points a game -- his lowest ever in Dallas. He shot 42.7 percent from the field and averaged a career-low 4.1 rebounds.

    Since averaging at least 20 points a game in his first five full seasons in Dallas, Finley's scoring average has dropped each of the last three seasons.

    In June, Finley had arthroscopic surgery to remove bone chips from his right ankle, which bothered him most of the season and even made him miss 15 games before Christmas. The surgery was successful, and he should be fully recovered by the start of training camp.

    Christie, who played for the Sacramento Kings before being traded to the Magic in January, will still get about $8 million for Orlando. He's also played for the Los Angeles Lakers, New York Knicks and Toronto Raptors, averaging 11.4 points and 1.9 steals per game over his career.

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    Default Re: Marc Stien expects the Mavs to waive Finley.....

    Looks like he's Miami bound.

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    Default Re: Marc Stien expects the Mavs to waive Finley..... (Finley waived; updated post #21)

    I went ahead and updated the thread title.

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    Default Re: Marc Stien expects the Mavs to waive Finley..... (Finley waived; updated post #21

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    I went ahead and updated the thread title.
    You *******.

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    Default Re: Marc Stien expects the Mavs to waive Finley..... (Finley waived; updated post #21)

    I think a darkhorse in the Finley sweepstakes are the Bulls, which still sucks for the Pacers. He's born in the Chi Town area, and he could go right in and start at SG.

    The Suns are out unless Finley takes a paycut.

    So to me it's between the Nuggets, Spurs, Bulls, Pistons, and Heat.
    "It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."

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