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    So my wife and I are starting a publishing company. I'll make it real short:

    Top Hat Publishing? or
    Tophat Publishing?

    I like "Tophat" but my wife has this crazy idea that a publishing company should use words that are actually in the dictionary. I agree, in theory, but I just think Tophat looks cooler. Plus, you can say "To Phat" when you feel like it.

    What do you think?
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    I vote Top Hat.

    What are you going to publish? My posts are copyrighted, so don't get any ideas!
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    I'd compromise with "TopHat". Rhymes with "MagicRat"..............

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    I'd compromise with "TopHat". Rhymes with "MagicRat"..............
    Well, the logo is in all caps, which makes it hard.
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    I vote Top Hat.

    What are you going to publish? My posts are copyrighted, so don't get any ideas!
    Why would I publish yours when I could publish mine?

    Pretty much anything.
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    I think Top Hat looks better.

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    Well, the logo is in all caps, which makes it hard.


    TOP HAT and TOPHAT weren't even listed as options!........

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    I've got a notion to edit the poll and add them.
    Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
    Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
    Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
    Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
    And life itself, rushing over me
    Life itself, the wind in black elms,
    Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you


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    You need to go to the United States Patent and Trademark Office - uspto.gov - and look for any trademarks using those names to make sure they are not taken.

    And by the way, the reason there has been a 20 year trend of companies that make up words for thier names (like Initech) is to avoid trademark infringment. Don't do all the work just to get socked with a stack of legal bills.

    If there is another Tophat or Top Hat, even if it is "Top Hat Ice Cream Parlor" they WILL find you and challenge you in court.

    Do the research and avoid a hassle by using something unique and not registered.

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    If there is another Tophat or Top Hat, even if it is "Top Hat Ice Cream Parlor" they WILL find you and challenge you in court.
    Wait, what? You've got to be kidding me. How could that possibly be true? As long as the names aren't too close to being the same, I don't see what grounds Top Hat Ice Cream Parlor would have to sue Top Hat Publishing for the name.

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    I when with Tophat because it can be read two ways.

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    Wait, what? You've got to be kidding me. How could that possibly be true? As long as the names aren't too close to being the same, I don't see what grounds Top Hat Ice Cream Parlor would have to sue Top Hat Publishing for the name.
    Remember that what is legal and what lawyers will try to do to you are two different things. If there is a Tophat channel or a Tophat Records, you're coming REALLY close to the publishing world. I used "Ice Cream Parlor" to make a point - even if they don't have a case, you'll still have to pay legal fees to fight it.

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    I did it for you. It appears "Tophat Publishing" was registered in 2001, but later abandoned in 2002. I don't know the legal status of the trademark (meaning I don't know if it is available or not) at this stage.

    There were 75 hits for all registered trademarks using either Tophat or Top Hat:

    http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...h=Submit+Query

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    Why Top Hat/Tophat/TOP HAT/TOPHAT?
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    There's 150 Top Hat Something companies registered in the tri-state (Ohio, Indiana, and Kentucky) area. None of them are publishing-related.

    What's it cost to register a federal trademark?

    EDIT: A lot. We're gonna be a smalltime operation for the forseeable future.
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    What's it cost to register a federal trademark?
    $325 per "class" of goods and/or services.

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    Top Hat, definitely. Tophat just looks weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Los Angeles
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    $325 per "class" of goods and/or services.
    Yeah, I couldn't tell what that means. It's referring to movies, tshirts, action figures and so on, right?

    I think I'd only need one "class" of goods/services: the company logo. I don't care if other people make shirts that say TopHat on them. Is that right?

    Is the 325 a per-year thing?
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    Here's the prelim logo. The spacing on the top will have to be adjusted, but we'll get there.
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    How about TopHat?
    Hey, I could go for that one......
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    Yeah, I couldn't tell what that means. It's referring to movies, tshirts, action figures and so on, right?

    I think I'd only need one "class" of goods/services: the company logo. I don't care if other people make shirts that say TopHat on them. Is that right?

    Is the 325 a per-year thing?
    The "international class" thing is a little wierd. For instance, everything computer related is in class 42. So even if you build custom hardware AND build websites (what I would think are 2 classes) you only pay the one fee.

    BUT - if you build websites and market a clothing line, tose are two different class numbers.

    Listen, I really could be wrong here. I haven't gone through the process personally, even though I should take my own advise and do it. What I know is what I've basically overheard while working at an Intellectual Property law firm.

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    Why not just go with Toophat?
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    I think you should go with To Phat. But then, Graham would come in and say it should be Too Phat.
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    I think you should go with To Phat. But then, Graham would come in and say it should be Too Phat.
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    Tophat should be pronounced Toofat

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