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Below are the rules of Pacers Digest. After you have read them, you will have a very good sense of where we are coming from, what we expect, what we don't want to see, and how we react to things.

Rule #1

Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:

"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"

"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"

"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"

"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"

"He/she is just delusional"

"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"

"I'm going to take a moment to point and / laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*"

"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good? "

In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.

We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.

There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.

Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.

In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!

All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.

Rule #2

If the actions of an administrator inspire you to make a comment, criticism, or express a concern about it, there is a wrong place and a couple of right places to do so.

The wrong place is to do so in the original thread in which the administrator took action. For example, if a post gets an infraction, or a post gets deleted, or a comment within a larger post gets clipped out, in a thread discussing Paul George, the wrong thing to do is to distract from the discussion of Paul George by adding your off topic thoughts on what the administrator did.

The right places to do so are:

A) Start a thread about the specific incident you want to talk about on the Feedback board. This way you are able to express yourself in an area that doesn't throw another thread off topic, and this way others can add their two cents as well if they wish, and additionally if there's something that needs to be said by the administrators, that is where they will respond to it.

B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.

If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.

Rule #3

If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.

When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:

A) Any post they make will be completely invisible as you scroll through a thread.

B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.

To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!

Rule #4

Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.

Rule #5

When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.

An example:

If I copy and paste an article from the Indianapolis Star website, I would post something like this:

http://www.linktothearticlegoeshere.com/article
Title of the Article
Author's Name
Indianapolis Star

Rule #6

We cannot tolerate illegal videos on Pacers Digest. This means do not share any links to them, do not mention any websites that host them or link to them, do not describe how to find them in any way, and do not ask about them. Posts doing anything of the sort will be removed, the offenders will be contacted privately, and if the problem becomes habitual, you will be suspended, and if it still persists, you will probably be banned.

The legal means of watching or listening to NBA games are NBA League Pass Broadband (for US, or for International; both cost money) and NBA Audio League Pass (which is free). Look for them on NBA.com.

Rule #7

Provocative statements in a signature, or as an avatar, or as the 'tagline' beneath a poster's username (where it says 'Member' or 'Administrator' by default, if it is not altered) are an unwanted distraction that will more than likely be removed on sight. There can be shades of gray to this, but in general this could be something political or religious that is likely going to provoke or upset people, or otherwise something that is mean-spirited at the expense of a poster, a group of people, or a population.

It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).

We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).

However, once the discussion seems to be more/mostly about the political issues instead of the sports figure or his specific situation, the thread is usually closed.

Rule #8

We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.

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Generally speaking, we try to be a "PG-13" rated board, and we don't want to see sexual content or similarly suggestive content. Vulgarity is a more muddled issue, though again we prefer things to lean more towards "PG-13" than "R". If we feel things have gone too far, we will step in.

Rule #10

We like small signatures, not big signatures. The bigger the signature, the more likely it is an annoying or distracting signature.

Rule #11

Do not advertise anything without talking about it with the administrators first. This includes advertising with your signature, with your avatar, through private messaging, and/or by making a thread or post.
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  • NBA 2k18 is here!

    Just got NBA2k18 for my Son on his PS4.

    First Team I played as was the All-Star Pacers. The notable Pacer Players that I recognize:

    Mark Jackson
    Ron Artest
    PG13
    JONeal
    Hibbert
    Detlef Schrempf
    Chuck Person
    Rik Smits ( complete with a Mullet that you can see from far away )
    Antonio ( but no Dale ) Davis
    Herb Williams

    I forget who else was on there....but it was a pretty good team for a Pacers team to play on a NBA 2k18 game. I ran a Lineup of Jalen/Artest/P13/JONeal/Hibbert/Person/Smits and was able to beat my Son in the game. It's loaded with 3pt shooters, 2 strong perimeter defenders while running a big Shotblocking/Rebounding/Capable Low Post Scoring frontcourt of JONeal and Hibbert. Granted...he was playing a crappy Lakers Team and he had no clue who that the Rifleman was a deadly 3pt shooter.....but a win is a win when playing against my Son.

    But then I played a 2nd game with the 2017-2018 Pacers lineup....ANDDDDD that lineup ( like in real life ) sucks. There are only 4 capable 3pt shooters on the Team and a bunch of Players that maybe quality Players in real life....but not really capable in the 3pt crazy jump shooting NBA2k18 world ( Thad and Lance ).

    Thoughts?
    Last edited by CableKC; 09-16-2017, 02:41 PM.
    Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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    Re: NBA 2k18 is here!

    I like the gameplay more this year. It's more realistic (aka a bit easier to drive to the basket), but boy layups are tougher lol. I only play myleague though, so it's still a really enjoyable game for me with better animations, graphics, and seeing the up-to-date gear is fun.

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      Re: NBA 2k18 is here!

      I usually buy the latest 2K game every year but I decided to skip this year. I used to love playing MyCareer/MyPlayer but they've ruined that for me over the last few releases with the terrible storylines and unskippable cutscenes. And now all the dumb microtransaction nonsense is there. From what I hear, they've now done that to MyGM mode also (at least for the first season). I hear the gameplay is still great at least. Hopefully things are better next year.

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      • #4
        Re: NBA 2k18 is here!

        Originally posted by Aw Heck View Post
        I usually buy the latest 2K game every year but I decided to skip this year. I used to love playing MyCareer/MyPlayer but they've ruined that for me over the last few releases with the terrible storylines and unskippable cutscenes. And now all the dumb microtransaction nonsense is there. From what I hear, they've now done that to MyGM mode also (at least for the first season). I hear the gameplay is still great at least. Hopefully things are better next year.
        I've been skipping every other year, so this is a buy year. I was going to skip if the gameplay wasn't improved and it looks much improved.

        Microtransactions are the worst thing to happen to video games. I blame mobile gaming for this **** and stupid people that keep buying it up. Ugh! Someone posted this on reddit about Rockstar adding microtransactions to Grand Theft Auto 5. Noting they were pumping out a game/yr, but haven't since GTA5 due to microtransactions. Just sit and watch stupid people buy fake money for fake ****.


        I guess I'll be grinding for my points. Not buying.

        I also hate story modes. I just want to play, and then have a pad to place trophies and shoes. That's about it. I'm glad that MyGM has gotten an update although it does sound like the story part is broken.

        I'll be firing it up tonight to test it out.
        Last edited by Sparhawk; 09-21-2017, 11:32 AM.
        First time in a long time, I've been happy with the team that was constructed, and now they struggle. I blame the coach.

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        • #5
          Re: NBA 2k18 is here!

          For whatever reason my internet doesn't play nice with 2k's servers, and playing this game without internet connection ****ing sucks. Spent more hours than I care to admit trying to fix it, but crappy customer service from 2k finally made me give up.

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          • #6
            Re: NBA 2k18 is here!

            MyGM

            I love building my team, and the Pacers are bad, so this gives me a great opportunity.

            I told my owner and the press after I got hired that this was a total rebuild.

            First things first is to acquire draft picks and trade older vets. Gotta get younger.

            Trade 1:
            Thad Young + 1st round pick in '21 to Hawks for 1st round pick in 2018 (Hawks have the worst roster, so this is easily a top 5 pick, imo) + Dewayne Dedmon

            Trade 2:
            Bojan Bogdanovic to Hawks for Taurean Prince (A- potential) + Miles Plumlees (bad contract that I can absorb)

            Trade 3:
            Sabons + Wilkins + 2nd round pick '19 to Raptors for Jakob Poeltl (A- potential) + OG Anunoby (C+ potential, but I like this kids game)

            Trade 4:
            Collison + Glen Dog the 3rd + Young to Bucks for Brogdon (A potential) + Dellavedova + 1st round pick in '20 + 2nd round pick in '19 + Jason Terry

            Trade 5:
            Lance Stephenson + Al Jefferson to Kings for Buddy Hield + Vince Carter

            Starting lineup
            PG - Malcom Brogdon: 77 overall, 24 years old. Kid is a fantastic shooter, A on 3pt, and can do a lot of things. He's pretty slow for a pg though. Love the A potential.
            SG - Victor Oladipo: 79 overall, 25 years old
            SF - Taurean Prince: 73 overall, 23 years old. All projection here with that A potential. B+ on Physicals
            PF - TJ Leaf: 72 overall, 20 years old. Stretch PF. B- potential though.
            C - Myles Turner: 84 overall, 21 years old. A+ potential at 21. Wow.

            Bench:
            SG - Buddy Hield: 76 overall, 23 years old. A 3pt shooter w/ A- potential
            PG - Core Joseph: 74 overall, 26 years old. Likely deadline trade bait.
            SF - OJ Onunoby: 71 overall, 20 years old. Hopefully can turn him into a 3&D player. B on defense, but only a C- on 3.
            C - Jacob Poeltl: 72 overall, 22 years old. 9th overall pick in 2016. A potential.
            PF/C - Ike Anigbogu: 68 overall, 18 years old. Only a C potential, which I thought was kinda low.

            Don't care about:
            Vince Carter
            Jason Terry
            Miles Plumlee
            Mat Dallavedova
            Dwayne Dedmon

            Plan on dumping someone soon and picking up Terrence Jones in FA. I opened up a lot of cap space. Might try to sign PG13 in the offseason. lol

            1st round Picks:
            2018: Pacers, Hawks. I have a feeling that Hawks pick will be top 5 and the Pacers pick should be top 10.
            2019: Pacers
            2020: Bucks, Pacers
            2021: NONE

            2nd round picks:
            2018: Pacers
            2019: NONE
            2020: Pacers
            2021: Pacers

            Trading is much harder this year. They've added lottery protection to picks. The most annoying is the opportunity to swap picks. Every *****ing team now wants to try and swap picks, but I only go after unprotected picks. I find most teams don't even try to give good trade value. Trading is such a pain in the *** now.

            I then fired the Trainer cause his stats were bad. I hired a guy with with B Potential and an A in training. He also has 2 good badges. I need a great trainer to ensure my young players develop and don't get hurt.
            Last edited by Sparhawk; 09-23-2017, 11:24 AM.
            First time in a long time, I've been happy with the team that was constructed, and now they struggle. I blame the coach.

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            • #7
              Re: NBA 2k18 is here!

              Why isnt Reggie on the Pacer All-Stars?

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              • #8
                Re: NBA 2k18 is here!

                I've been playing mostly MyCareer and made a SF too fill the hole the PG left

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                  Re: NBA 2k18 is here!

                  Originally posted by Foul on Smits View Post
                  Why isnt Reggie on the Pacer All-Stars?
                  you need to ask him. 2K obviously wants him in the game but he said no.

                  It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

                  Division Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 1989, 1990, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
                  Conference Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 2005
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                    Re: NBA 2k18 is here!

                    Originally posted by Aw Heck View Post
                    I usually buy the latest 2K game every year but I decided to skip this year. I used to love playing MyCareer/MyPlayer but they've ruined that for me over the last few releases with the terrible storylines and unskippable cutscenes. And now all the dumb microtransaction nonsense is there. From what I hear, they've now done that to MyGM mode also (at least for the first season). I hear the gameplay is still great at least. Hopefully things are better next year.
                    I like that the NBA2K games finally put out a Pacers roster ( the All Star Pacers version ) that I can use that has a chance at beating my Son ( or anyone ) when he uses the Warriors or the Rockets.
                    Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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                      Originally posted by Aw Heck View Post
                      Re: NBA 2k18 is here!

                      I usually buy the latest 2K game every year but I decided to skip this year. I used to love playing MyCareer/MyPlayer but they've ruined that for me over the last few releases with the terrible storylines and unskippable cutscenes. And now all the dumb microtransaction nonsense is there. From what I hear, they've now done that to MyGM mode also (at least for the first season). I hear the gameplay is still great at least. Hopefully things are better next year.
                      They did add a story line to MyGM, and yes it was so awful. No cutscenes though, and you do have to click a button to get through the awful dialogue. It's only the first year though.

                      You can always do MyLeague if you don't want the BS that comes with MyGM. I might do that.

                      I played through the first season of MyGM. I'm in my second year and Ike is already complaining about minutes and wanting to be a starter even though there are 2 PF's in front of him that have better grades and stats. Ike did jump 9 points in the offseason, he's rated a 77 now!

                      Some of the BS where players request more playing time/starting grates on my nerves. Happens too often, and that's not even the GMs job!

                      Other than the story line of the first season, they didn't do anything to update MyGM, which is disappointing. Trading is such a pain now and harder than ever with the new rules they implemented like not trading picks in back to back years (though they even get this wrong), pick protections. It's a lot harder to make trades because of this.

                      I still enjoy it though, even with some of the pains. No microtransactions needed!
                      First time in a long time, I've been happy with the team that was constructed, and now they struggle. I blame the coach.

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