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    Walker is a muscle man on offense and i think thats why Bird would like him
    on the roster. As of right now who scores at the PF? JO when he plays it and then
    who? That would be the only reason why they would like him. Plus i am not
    so sure how the locker room chemistry would be. Didn't he try to get crazy with our
    players last year.

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    No thanks.

    That is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Galen
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    This happens a lot and never ceases to amaze me!

    What am I talking about?

    DD reports the experts (Bird and Walsh) like Walker, and it's true I've read or heard that several times myself, but does that dissuade people from weighing in with a dissenting opinion and really trashing Walker? Not at all.

    Must be an Internet thing because if I had a basketball opinion different from those guys I wouldn't be advertising it, I would look into why they have those opinions.

    Walker tried extremely hard to fit in when Boston picked him up, and he gets most of the accolades when reading why Boston made the playoffs.

    He would be an asset to the Pacers!
    Nice to see someone has the same opinion.

    It's pretty lame that everyone repeats what they see from other posters. It's like a broken record. If the majority of the people here had their way, the Pacers would be the EXACT same team. The EXACT same team won't get us a title. Change is necessary, and a player with Walker's talents would be very valueable to us. He's alot better than people give credit. The guy is an All-Star several times over and just because he hasn't had the chance to be coached by an awesome coach like Rick Carlisle or play on an awesome team like the Pacers is not his fault. Atleast give the man a chance before you put a hex on him.

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    We all thought the same thing about Jermaine and Brad.

    That said, I sure as hell don't want him here.
    I'm still not completely convinced that that isn't why Brad is no longer a Pacer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamble
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    Walker is a muscle man on offense and i think thats why Bird would like him
    on the roster. As of right now who scores at the PF? JO when he plays it and then
    who? That would be the only reason why they would like him. Plus i am not
    so sure how the locker room chemistry would be. Didn't he try to get crazy with our
    players last year.
    Anthony Johnson tried to re-arrange Jamaal Tinsley's face before he came to the Pacers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fig Newton
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    Nice to see someone has the same opinion.

    It's pretty lame that everyone repeats what they see from other posters. It's like a broken record. If the majority of the people here had their way, the Pacers would be the EXACT same team. The EXACT same team won't get us a title. Change is necessary, and a player with Walker's talents would be very valueable to us. He's alot better than people give credit. The guy is an All-Star several times over and just because he hasn't had the chance to be coached by an awesome coach like Rick Carlisle or play on an awesome team like the Pacers is not his fault. Atleast give the man a chance before you put a hex on him.
    IIRC, Toine pretty much reverted back to his old self deep in the first round of the playoffs. I remember a lot of bad shots going up by him in Game 6/7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fig Newton
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    Nice to see someone has the same opinion.

    It's pretty lame that everyone repeats what they see from other posters. It's like a broken record.


    Irony at its best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade
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    I'm still not completely convinced that that isn't why Brad is no longer a Pacer.

    I am. DOnnie just choked on that one!

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    IIRC, Toine pretty much reverted back to his old self deep in the first round of the playoffs. I remember a lot of bad shots going up by him in Game 6/7.
    I just found out what IIRC was not 1 minute before I read your post. Ironic, yes.

    I'm not saying Antoine is the best player in the world and doesn't make mistakes. But he can score and that's what the Pacers need.

    Here is a good example of what the Pacers need. The Spurs are a defensive oriented team right? Wrong. They have players like Brown and Barry that are purely there for their offensive abilities, but defensively, are very lacking. I'm not saying that Walker can be a total slacker, but he doesn't need to be a defensive specialist. If he can play atleast a little d, and be there when the Pacers hit their slumps on offense, I don't see why he wouldn't fit in.

    And I believe in Rick and I believe that he could coach a player like Walker into being a winner.

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    Irony at its best.

    No, irony at it's best is laughing at your friend when he get's monkey feces thrown at him and then having a gorilla throw one of his patties directly into your face as you're still pointing your finger and laughing.

    You simply read into things much.

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    You simply read into things much.
    As do you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fig Newton
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    I just found out what IIRC was not 1 minute before I read your post. Ironic, yes.

    I'm not saying Antoine is the best player in the world and doesn't make mistakes. But he can score and that's what the Pacers need.

    Here is a good example of what the Pacers need. The Spurs are a defensive oriented team right? Wrong. They have players like Brown and Barry that are purely there for their offensive abilities, but defensively, are very lacking. I'm not saying that Walker can be a total slacker, but he doesn't need to be a defensive specialist. If he can play atleast a little d, and be there when the Pacers hit their slumps on offense, I don't see why he wouldn't fit in.

    And I believe in Rick and I believe that he could coach a player like Walker into being a winner.
    If it's a scorer we desperately need, I'll just go with signing Saras then. Saras and Jack in the backcourt should suffice, with JO and Ron to score in the front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade
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    If it's a scorer we desperately need, I'll just go with signing Saras then. Saras and Jack in the backcourt should suffice, with JO and Ron to score in the front.
    As would I. But not ever possible scenario is a feasable one.

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    NO i hate Fatwoine.Hes so *****ing slow.And he misses way too many open shots.Hes overpaid and out of shape.....

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    Walker might not be a bad addition depending on the price.

    If he is signed for an average of 6-7 million a year he isn't that bad. The guy is one of the best all around players in the league.

    Take a look at his stats:

    http://www.nba.com/playerfile/antoine_walker/index.html

    For his career he has averaged 8 rebounds a game while scoring 19 points.

    While some might be concerned about how our defense will be with Walker and JO my question is how will the other team guard us with Artest, Walker, and JO?

    With that said, I do have 2 cocerns with Walker and there are....

    1. His turnovers.
    He averages 3.15 TOs for his careers. Although I will cut him a little bit of slack because I know he does have to carry alot of the ball handling duties everywhere he has been. In Boston for the most part, in Dallas when they tried him as a point forward, and in Atlanta.
    2. His shooting percentages.
    Antoine is a 41% career shooting from the field while hitting 32% from the 3 point line. He is just a 64% foul shooter. Although this is not a huge concern for me. Ron shoots about the same from the field and 3 point line thorughout his career as well.

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    Walker CAN ONLY BE effective if he is on a team that doesn't care about defense ( like the Kings or Mavs ) or has enough players where they don't care about his lack of defense ( like the Spurs or Pistons ) and he can be the 1st or 2nd scoring option on the team. That way he can do what he does best...shoot the ball.

    That said.....if Walker is placed on a team where he will either be a 2 to 4th scoring option....Walker will become another version of Croshere.....a PF who hovers beyond the arc waiting for a 3 pt shot. If he provided some other talents...like play some defense or pull down boards...then he would be fine.

    The only way that I would have him on the team is if he is the backup PF and playing ONLY backup PF minutes....which would probably be about 15-20 mpg. I don't want him playing any SF minutes at all....we have enough SF as it stands.

    I want a PF who can bang inside and score close to the basket....not a PF who occassionally pulls down rebounds and loves the 3pt shot.

    I will Pass on Walker.

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    Walker is a huge talent. I always wonder what could have been with this guy. He reminds me of Derrick Coleman.I always wondered what could have been if both of those guys had a stronger work ethic. Offensively he has all the skills , hes a good passer( when he does decide to pass the ball) excellent ball handling skills, good rebounder, 3point range on his jumper and can score in the post and just on skill alone hes become a consistant 19-20pt 10bd and 4 assists a night guy. The guy can certainly put up numbers in volume but when the going gets tough Walker will dissapear.

    Its a shame the guy has pathetic work ethic, hes never in shape, doesn't have any desire to defend and doesn't seem to play with a high IQ.Theres times with that big frame of his he should be down in the low post not trying to take quicker guys off the dribble or jacking up threes. I said before the trade deadline when there was talk of aquiring him from atlanta that if is one of your stars that you have to rely on to win a championship its never going to happen. I don't want him on this team.

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    I'm not saying Antoine is the best player in the world and doesn't make mistakes. But he can score and that's what the Pacers need.

    Pacers front line is:
    JO, Foster, Sjax, Tinsley, and Ron..
    I would say we have players who could score.

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