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    The term expert is used very loosely here, but these guys are saying nice things about the Pacers draft. (I didn't see this posted)

    http://www.nba.com/pacers/news/draft...ts_050629.html

    Experts Praise Pacers’ Draft
    A sampling of post-draft analysis revealed widespread praise for the Pacers' selections of New Mexico forward Danny Granger at No. 17 and Slovenian power forward Erazem Lorbek at No. 46. Read what the experts had to say.


    BOB KRAVITZ, The Indianapolis Star
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    True, in 99 percent of all cases, when a team emerges from the draft room and says, "We couldn't believe Player X was still there," it's complete and utter nonsense, a transparent effort by the local management to convince its fans they pulled a fast one on the competition.
    This was a 1 per center.

    This wasn't supposed to happen. But it did. After a season of the worst luck imaginable, the Pacers got one of the franchise's best-ever breaks, choosing a young man who comes here from the same school that served the franchise well in the past, producing Mel Daniels.

    If you thought this front-office was happy on Tuesday, just wait a few years.


    SAM SMITH, Chicago Tribune
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    They get a break with this hot prospect falling this far in the draft. This tough and athletic four-year swing man is able to move in at small forward and gives the Pacers a chance to offer Ron Artest in trade.


    MARTY BURNS, Sports Illustrated
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    Could be a steal. Some have compared him to Scottie Pippen for his all-around skills and versatility. Hard to believe he fell this far, but Larry Bird and Donnie Walsh will gladly take it.


    CHAD FORD, ESPN Insider
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    To put this into perspective, had Utah not moved up to No. 3, the Jazz had planned to select Granger with the No. 6 pick in the draft. As it stands, the Pacers, who were trying to move up all night, did nothing ... and watched Granger fall into their lap at No. 17.
    Granger is the perfect fit for what the Pacers like to do. He is versatile, can shoot and handle the ball, and most importantly can defend three positions. He may be one of the five best prospects in the draft and one of the few who is ready to come in and contribute immediately. Adding Granger gives the Pacers' title hopes a pretty big shot in the arm.

    In the second round, the Pacers landed a guy many believe is the top young player in Europe. He's not flashy, but Larry Bird loves him. In a few years, after an extended stay in Europe, he could become a fixture in Indiana.


    TONY MEJIA, CBS Sportline
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    The rich get richer. Indiana welcomes back Ron Artest and now adds another potential defensive specialist in Danny Granger to aid next year's playoff push. He's not quite the athlete Shawn Marion is, but can stuff a stat sheet similarly, especially since he's a better passer. Team president Larry Bird managed to find a top 10 pick at No. 17, enhancing his team's chances to dethrone the Pistons as kings of the Eastern Conference.
    In Round 2, the Pacers grabbed Erazem Lorbek, who you might remember from his one season at Michigan State. He was marginal then, but captured the Euroleague's Rising Star Trophy this past season, the closest thing to a rookie of the year award in the world's second-best league. Has he grown or is he simply more comfortable playing the European style? Probably both. Either way, Indiana looks shrewd as usual. Grade: A


    BRENDAN McGOVERN, About.com
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    Indiana continues to strike it rich in the middle of Round 1 with proven NCAA talent that falls for the most marginal of reasons. In Granger's case, there are some doubts about his outside shooting and ball-handling. But with so many positives to his game, which extends for the full 94 feet of the court, it's mind-numbing to see guys like Villanueva, Korolev and Vazquez, whose upside barely exceeds Granger's present, go ahead of him. Lorbek is another solid pick by the Pacers braintrust. He's not a great athlete, but he brings a little bit of everything to the floor and will easily replace Austin Croshere when his odorous contract expires.


    Dime Magazine
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    Danny Granger at No. 17? Are you kidding? We pictured Larry Bird and Donnie Walsh laughing and high-fiving each other in the war room when it became evident that Granger would somehow, amazingly, still be on the board when their pick came up. Add in 6-10 Erazem Lorbek at No. 44 and the Pacers crushed draft night.

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    I saw that earlier tonight and thought it was odd that they would post stuff on their website that mentioned trading Artest or called Croshere's contract "odorous".....
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    I saw that earlier tonight and thought it was odd that they would post stuff on their website that mentioned trading Artest or called Croshere's contract "odorous".....
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    I'm not making fun, just remembering back to that fateful evening when you said you'd moved on.........
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    I changed my mind.

    Actually, the truth is I felt I was over it, then I read some of the BS again that I've always strongly disagreed with, and it rekindled the flame, so to speak.

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    I changed my mind.

    Actually, the truth is I felt I was over it, then I read some of the BS again that I've always strongly disagreed with, and it rekindled the flame, so to speak.

    Over?? OVER!!!!!!

    It will never be OVER.

    The Brad Miller Posse' rides together, baby!!!!!! I'll go swinging wildly into the stands & Hicks can come at them with a dust pan.


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    *tears his jersey off* We ride together, baby!

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    As with the Boston Pick, Bloody Oath I've had a gutfull.. it wasen't that amazing a pick, anyone who took eather Granger or Green Between 14-20 would be on the recieving end of this so called aclaim.. if we drafted a no one at 17 and he became ROY then i'll accept all the tributes known to man because that would be specail, not this, its a given !!

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    The Pacers got an A+ for the draft the good ol' American way....they sat on their hands and waited for Granger to fall into their laps.

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    Fortune favors the prepared man.

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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    Hicks, please put your shirt back on....
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    Over?? OVER!!!!!!

    It will never be OVER.

    The Brad Miller Posse' rides together, baby!!!!!! I'll go swinging wildly into the stands & Hicks can come at them with a dust pan.
    Seriously, am I the only person who remembers Peck saying Donnie re-signing Dale meant he forgave him for Brad?

    Anyone?

    Anyone?

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    Seriously, am I the only person who remembers Peck saying Donnie re-signing Dale meant he forgave him for Brad?

    Anyone?

    Anyone?

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    As of now I no longer care about Brad Miller. Still was a mistake of a trade, but who cares now that the Franchise (that's what Reggie calls him) has come home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicRat
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    Ring the bell, suckers.....
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    heaven forbid if we dont resign dd....what will peck do then?....im thinking only a trade of artest would ever get pecks forgiveness

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    heaven forbid if we dont resign dd....what will peck do then?....im thinking only a trade of artest would ever get pecks forgiveness
    No, it'd take more than that. We'd have to trade him for Al, and Donnie would have to get up and say, "Look, I ****ed up. But people seem to forget, I've ****ed up a lot. People are always saying I'm such a good GM, but I'm not. I've just been lucky. Truth is, I'm a sham. Always have been. I just need to stop fooling myself, as well as everyone else, and just get the hell out of Dodge. But don't worry, Larry actually knows what he's doing, so you guys are in capable hands, much more so than mine. Goodbye. God Speed. Go Pacers."



    ...and then Peck wakes up, clutching his Dale Davis doll to his chest. He looks around, confused, and says, "No, it wasn't just a dream. It can't be. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!"

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    Then JOneal7 sprinkles him with some magic dandruff and all is well......
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    I'd put that in my sig, if I believed in putting quotes in sigs.
    Here ya go.

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    This was from today's Smack section of Dime:

    Yesterday, the day after the NBA Draft, the smoke was still clearing and we still couldn’t believe that the Pacers got themselves Danny Granger at #17 …

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    Clearly only those of us with souls (read: People who didn't agree with the trade) have emotional highs that make us say strange things.

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    I think it's called bipolar disorder. But in all fairness, Peck did qualify it with "As of now..."

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    I think it's called bipolar disorder. But in all fairness, Peck did qualify it with "As of now..."
    Fair's got nothin' to do with it......
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    Uh?

    Since Dale is currently not a Pacer, doesn't Peck get to care about Brad Miller again?
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    Does Tom Cruise know about this situation?! His knowledge of the history of psychiatry seems to be needed here.

    [mutter]F'ing milk drinkers and their medication....[\mutter]
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    Found another one, dunno if it's expert or not, at DraftExpress.

    #17: Indiana Pacers: A+

    Danny Granger, SF, New Mexico (#17)
    Erazem Lorbek, PF, Slovenia (#46)


    The rich get richer is probably the only way to describe the way this crazy draft started playing out from here, and this pick is definitely no exception. There is no way to explain the way that Granger fell to them, beyond the fact that a few teams believed each other’s smokescreens about him having problems with his knee in the confusion that ensued after Villanueva shockingly went seventh. Granger only missed three games in his entire college career, and according a team drafting ahead of the Pacers, he had no red flags from their medical staff. Granger is in an outstanding situation as he won’t have to play for a struggling lottery team that will ask him to carry the scoring load, and instead will allow him to focus on utilizing his terrific all around game to make his team and those around him better. According to his agent Mark Bartelstein: “I have no idea why Danny Granger fell to 17, but frankly we don’t really care. Everything happens for a reason and Danny is absolutely thrilled to be in the spot that he is in right now. He’s in a great situation playing for an outstanding organization that he can help right away. Strange things happen in the draft every single year. Danny is as healthy as can be.”

    In the 2nd round, the Pacers selected one of the most polished and experienced players in the draft in Erazem Lorbek, who is fresh off winning an Italian league championship with Climamio Bologna. Lorbek will most likely stay over in Europe for at least a year or two, but could be a really nice player for them to bring off the bench thanks to his polished offensive game once he does make it over.


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