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    By Bob Kravitz

    One by one, the names came off the NBA draft board. One by one, the Pacers' front office staff started wondering if the ridiculous was somehow possible. The Toronto Raptors had picked up a stiff, Charlie Villanueva, at No. 7. The Los Angeles Lakers, looking for a new Shaq, took a high school center named Andrew Bynum. The Charlotte Bobcats chose Sean May at No. 13, a bit higher than expected.

    The NBA's teams were making a mockery of all the mock drafts.

    Now, the Pacers were nearing their selection, No. 17, a place where they figured they might pick up a Francisco Garcia. But then they looked at the board. And they were stunned.

    Danny Granger was still there.

    The same Granger who blew away the Pacers during an early workout in Indianapolis, even if the brain trust was resigned to the fact he wasn't going to be around at 17.

    "We've got a chance to draft this guy?" coach Rick Carlisle asked team president Larry Bird as they watched Granger work with three other players in early June at the fieldhouse.

    "No, probably not," Bird responded.

    Bird was so sure Granger wasn't going to be available at 17, he apologized to the New Mexico player for bringing him to Indianapolis for the workout.

    Every mock draft had Granger going in the top 10, even in the top five. Carlisle said Tuesday if the Pacers had the fifth overall pick in the draft, they would have taken Granger. But lots of strange things started to happen, Villanueva and Bynum and May, and suddenly, the Pacers' eyes were getting big as saucers.

    "We were holding our breath," Bird said, "thinking every pick that Granger was going to go next."

    It never happened. And when it came time to make the pick, the decision was more unanimous than an election in a dictatorship.

    "When Granger came down to us, we were amazed," Carlisle said.

    Later, Bird was still looking like he'd won the lottery after picking up a single ticket on a sidewalk.

    "I never dreamed he'd be there," he said.

    Nobody could believe it. Chad Ford, ESPN's online draft analyst, wrote the Pacers got "the big steal of the draft."

    So why did Granger fall?

    There's only one possible issue: After his junior season, Granger had offseason shoulder surgery. And six months ago, he suffered a torn meniscus, but returned later in the season and played brilliantly.

    Injury prone?

    Maybe that was it.

    Otherwise, it didn't seem to add up. Bird said that as Granger became available, he started to think about the 1998 draft, when Paul Pierce, a surefire top-five pick, somehow fell to Boston at No. 10.

    Granger, who Carlisle expects will compete for minutes immediately, gives the Pacers a lot of what they need.

    He gives them depth and insurance at shooting guard. He gives them a capable fill-in at small forward for Ron Artest. He gives them a useful backup at power forward behind Jermaine O'Neal.

    And he gives Bird the flexibility to make more moves. "We're not done yet," Bird said. "We've still got some things we want to do. We solidified two positions tonight, so that does a lot for us."

    Granger doesn't just bring them talent, something the Pacers already have in abundance. Maybe as important, he also brings them some maturity, some sanity. And that's no small issue with a team that has the chance to be very, very good or very, very dysfunctional. Face it: You put Artest, Stephen Jackson and Jamaal Tinsley together, something is going to happen, and it's not always going to be good.

    With Granger, we're talking here about a four-year college player, a Jehovah's Witness who has done missionary work, a young man who actually turned down Yale. When he moves to Indianapolis, he will be accompanied by his father, who has said he will shut down his forklift repair business and live with his son.

    When Granger was chosen, ESPN analyst Greg Anthony immediately invoked the name of Scottie Pippen. Later, Carlisle was not backing away from the comparison. Granger may not be another Pippen, but he has many of the same physical skills, like Pippen, or maybe a bulkier Tayshaun Prince.

    When somebody asked what position Granger would play, Carlisle answered like he was talking about the former Bulls' great:

    "On the floor."

    True, in 99 percent of all cases, when a team emerges from the draft room and says, "We couldn't believe Player X was still there," it's complete and utter nonsense, a transparent effort by the local management to convince its fans they pulled a fast one on the competition.

    This was a 1 per center.

    This wasn't supposed to happen. But it did. After a season of the worst luck imaginable, the Pacers got one of the franchise's best-ever breaks, choosing a young man who comes here from the same school that served the franchise well in the past, producing Mel Daniels.

    If you thought this front-office was happy on Tuesday, just wait a few years.

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    He is one of those Jahovahs Witness missionarys that travel door to door proseltizing? I bet he'll get along great with all the guys =/

    I hope he is as good as everyone thinks he is, cause he sounds like he is living some weird very controlled life, with his parents moving in with him, hmm.

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    He is one of those Jahovahs Witness missionarys that travel door to door proseltizing? I bet he'll get along great with all the guys =/

    I hope he is as good as everyone thinks he is, cause he sounds like he is living some weird very controlled life, with his parents moving in with him, hmm.
    I heard he was raised as a Jehovah's Witness, thats not exactly the same as being a Jehovah's Witness. One of the ways Jehovah's Witness's train their children to proselytize is by taking them door to door with them. This is probably the extent of his proselytizing.

    Jehovah's Witnesses do have missionary's just like every religion, but the missionary's are picked from outstanding members that have proselytized for several years. Danny simply couldn't do that and play basketball too.

    Most likely Danny was just a regular member that went from door to door since all members are expected to proselytize.

    I heard his father was going to move in with him, I didn't hear anything said about both parents.

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    His beliefs and his private life are his own.
    Several members of this team are very religious, including JO, Jax and Artest, as long as it doesn't interfere with their basketballskills I nay care what they do in private.
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    Alot of Athletes have different beliefs. There is one that Carl Everett of the Chicago White Sox has where they don't beleive that dynosaurs every existed and that they were created by Walmart.

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    The Pacers brass had to be salivating, orgasming - whatever you want to say - right about at 14 when they realized that Graham, Granger or Wright would be available when they picked. That's how I ranked those 3 BTW - but I had Graham as the 3rd and Granger the 5th best players in the draft (Green between them). I had Wright as 11th I think - weaker defense.
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    I think Granger is better than Joey Graham, even thought Graham have more media exposure for playing in OSU. This guy is 6'8 and he averages 2 blks per game, that's pretty impressive for even thought he is playing against college players. And, we finally got someone that's not so "street" and isane, know you guys are dissing on that, just happy that we got this lottery talent fall into our laps.

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    I think DG's religious beliefs are nothing but a positive. Whether you agree with his beliefs or not, it will serve him well in his life.

    I don't understand how or why some are complaining about this. And God forbid his father move in with him. I'd much rather have his posse move him with him. yeh right

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    The Pacers brass had to be salivating, orgasming - whatever you want to say - right about at 14 when they realized that Graham, Granger or Wright would be available when they picked. That's how I ranked those 3 BTW - but I had Graham as the 3rd and Granger the 5th best players in the draft (Green between them). I had Wright as 11th I think - weaker defense.
    I was thinking along the same lines, but I started seeing it around 12. IMO, NJ really screwed up taking Wright over either Graham or Granger.
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    I think DG's religious beliefs are nothing but a positive. Whether you agree with his beliefs or not, it will serve him well in his life.

    I don't understand how or why some are complaining about this. And God forbid his father move in with him. I'd much rather have his posse move him with him. yeh right
    Sorry UB, but some of us can't help but still fear another "God told Jax to go to Toronto" situation.
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    Sorry UB, but some of us can't help but still fear another "God told Jax to go to Toronto" situation.
    Why would you fear that? It proved to me that God was a Pacer fan.
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    Why would you fear that? It proved to me that God was a Pacer fan.
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    Why would you fear that? It proved to me that God was a Pacer fan.
    And then God proved he had a sense of humor by trading Jax to New York.

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    Back when I was a milk drinker (college student) I spent a very stupid summer selling books door to door. I was a terrible salesman, but I developed a soft heart for JWs, because they would always buy from me. They would tell me I was terrible, but they knew how much it sucks going door to door!
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    I love that his father is moving in for a bit to help him out. Mainly because it will help him not be overwhelmed by life in the NBA, but can you imagine if Ron Artest was his primary father figure?

    We don't exactly have the greatest guys for our rookies to learn from and look up to.
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    I hope he is as good as everyone thinks he is, cause he sounds like he is living some weird very controlled life, with his parents moving in with him, hmm.
    Sounds like we're getting the Tiger Woods of basketball. I'll take that.

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    DG says his father is moving to Indy, but he'll have his own apartment

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