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    I just thought of this, but if Ron had his head screwed on straight and management was confident that his troubles were behind him, we could have picked Gerald Green.


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    If Ron had his head on straight, we don't pick at 17 so it's moot.

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    If Ron had his head on straight, we don't pick at 17 so it's moot.
    Good point. I feel better now.

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    Hicks is right, but I would still rather have Granger. I've had my fill of taking High Schoolers.
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    Danny Granger > Gerald Green. Why wait on a 18 year old for 2-3 years when you can get a guy who can come in and play now and this is what this team needs.

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    Hicks is right, but I would still rather have Granger. I've had my fill of taking High Schoolers.
    From what I'm learning so far, I'd rather have Granger too. Safer pick, more ready to help right away.

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    I don't see the connection but it looks like we all have kissed and made up so I'm cool

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    The new CBA really made life tough for HS players. They get a 2-year guaranteed contract.

    Well whoopee - you can't tell squat about most HS guys until their 3rd year. Put GM's in a tough position. A bunch of those guys dropped quite a bit.
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    If Green is as good as some think, then I blame Bird and Walsh.

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    Frankly, I don't think the Pacers drafted Granger because of Ron. Before the draft we were all pretty sure that the Pacers were targeting a SG, and maybe they were. But nobody was saying before the draft "We gotta draft a SF because Ron is not right"

    I think the fact that Granger dropped to them was just too good to pass up. They literally took the best player available (Green included).

    Nobody they drafted was going to supplant a starter anyway.

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    Bird was on record saying he'd prefer not to take a high school player. That has nothing to do with Ron.

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    I don't want to win in 4 years, I want to win now. Granger helps us in that regard.

    And a lot of HS people have been compared to McGrady. Granger is a safer, yet terrific pick. Can't do much better
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    No more milk-drinkers, remember?

    That is interesting. I took that comment to mean that they wanted some tough players who were not intimidated. or as Isiah Thomas would have said, some dogs.

    But I could see where that comment could mean they don't want H.S. players

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    I thought the "milk drinkers" comment was referring to "clean cut" guys.

    But all of these explanations are plausible.
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    Enough of the high school players.
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    Our director of scouting (his name escapes me at the moment) said this morning on Fox Sports Radio that Granger was at the top of their list and they were surprised that he actually fell to them. TMac like is nice, but then again how far has TMac gotten in the playoffs?

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    I think "milk-drinkers" refers to all dairy consumers in general. And we don't need 'em here.

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    It's all about the bleu cheese these days

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    I've thought about Hicks' reply and I'll revise my initial thought somewhat: If Donnie and Larry were confident that Ron's troubles were behind him, we could have picked Gerald Green.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harmonica
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    I've thought about Hicks' reply and I'll revise my initial thought somewhat: If Donnie and Larry were confident that Ron's troubles were behind him, we could have picked Gerald Green.
    If an article came out that Donnie and Larry drank their Bud Light from the new plastic bottles, I'm starting to think that you'd come in and say that it was Ron's fault.

    For their fear that he may snap and start throwing them everywhere, and they wouldn't want glass flying.

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    I've thought about Hicks' reply and I'll revise my initial thought somewhat: If Donnie and Larry were confident that Ron's troubles were behind him, we could have picked Gerald Green.
    True.

    I'm sure Boston couldn't be more thrilled that they were able to nab him at number 18.

    Danny Ainge and co. had a good draft again.

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    If an article came out that Donnie and Larry drank their Bud Light from the new plastic bottles, I'm starting to think that you'd come in and say that it was Ron's fault.

    For their fear that he may snap and start throwing them everywhere, and they wouldn't want glass flying.
    Well, I'm sure all the exercise equipment is bolted to the floor, now.
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    Well, I'm sure all the exercise equipment is bolted to the floor, now.
    Maybe they'll put the gatorade cups on bungee cords, so when he knocks over the tray again they don't roll around everywhere.

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    Bird was on record saying he'd prefer not to take a high school player. That has nothing to do with Ron.

    No more milk-drinkers, remember?
    Yup. Coming up to our pick, I was thinking:

    - If we take Green, it means Larry is capable of thinking long term and is willing to give up immediate gratification for delayed success.

    - If we take Granger, it means Larry doesn't want any more HS'ers, period. Of course, with the new CBA, that shouldn't be an issue anymore.

    - If we take Warrick, that means Larry has given up on Bender.

    - If we take Garcia, then Larry must have believed all those stupid comparisons to Reggie (and remember, I wanted Garcia, because I didn't think the above 3 would be on the board.)

    - If we take anybody else, Larry is a dead man walking.
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    Reminded them of Tracy Mcgrady? Yeah so did qyntel woods...but you see where he is at.
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