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    Does this mean that we've seen the last of JJ as a Pacer?

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    Either him or Ron. Probably him.

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    I hope not
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    Probably.

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    I think its according to what he's offered elsewhere. If New Orleans(for example) offers him 3-4 M a yr the Pacers may not want to match it.
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    I think so...but I hope not.

    I think it would be good to keep him, gives Granger some competition for minuates.

    If we lose him it will be the only bad part of drafting Granger, the fact we might lose such a quality player and person on the team. But hey, Granger isn't a bad compramise...

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    Doubt it, aren't all the Pacer Franchise High on this Kid, I think he's a Stayer, they make room for him, if anything I think Jack'll be the First to Go

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    JJ is cool but if he can get more experience somewhere else than he should go. I wish he'd stay but contrary to what a lot of you believe it would not be the end of the world. I met James Jones a few times this year and I was so impressed at how nice and friendly he was and I would love for him to remain a Pacer but he needs to do what is best for him.

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    Doubt it, aren't all the Pacer Franchise High on this Kid, I think he's a Stayer, they make room for him, if anything I think Jack'll be the First to Go
    Wow...really? Just curious but why is that?

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    Doubt it, aren't all the Pacer Franchise High on this Kid, I think he's a Stayer, they make room for him, if anything I think Jack'll be the First to Go
    Why would we get rid of our starting SG to make room for another SF? If anything it will be Bender gone. Lately with all the LA rumors I didn't want Bender to go but since we got Granger I could care less. Bender can get the hell out of Indiana for whatever someone will give us.

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    It would be great to keep JJ, he progressed so much this year, but unless we do something with the logjam at the forward spot, by doing something with Cro, and or Bender, then I'm not sure where he'll get too many minutes, unless a trade is still going to happen.

    At least it will keep the rest of the offseason interesting

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    Wow...really? Just curious but why is that?
    I have no real concrete evidence I just imagine he's the most expendable Sure he has a Nasty Edge that works well when Kept in tact but i wonder what he's like in the Locker-room, If Granger plays well I can see Jack getting traded mid season, a little bit more then Ron really, he was the last person acquired by the team and his role was back up to Reggie and now he might hit the starting line-up, even then I think he is best suited to 6th Man Tasks, he's like Ron Mercer in a couple ways ( I Think), If Granger cracks the starting line up next to Tins and Artest then I really could see Jack out the door


    I don't think there will be a trade of eather right now, this year unless something surprising happens, JJ and Granger are both on Rookie contracts still and can't really go anywhere and have to be content with the PT they will be getting

    for the PG,SG,SF we have

    PG Tinsley/AJ/Freddie
    SG Jax,Artest,Freddie,Granger
    SF Artest,Jax,Granger,JJ,Bender

    I really see that after Ron, Jax has the highest trade value and could be in demand by more teams then anyone else and if was to get a C or a future Lottery pick for him I woulden't be upset

    Artest can play both SG/SF, we lose 3's if he plays SG but gain 3's at SF, it's tough..

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    JJ is a restricted FA and no longer on a rook contract.

    I remain solid on the fact that JJ will move to the 2, he's a pure shooter and likely will be a nice matchup problem there.
    JJ hs learned a lot from Reg this past year and will continue to get better, afaik the org is very high on him
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    I hope we keep JJ, if we don't I think that he will become of mythical proportions such as Brad Miller; we will all scratch our heads adn crinkle our brows in question after a game deciding shot doesn't fall in our favor and say 'What if?...'.
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    I don't see why they can't keep everybody, at least for the moment.

    Just take the 15 man roster from the end of the season and replace Miller/Edwards with Artest/Granger and let them compete.

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    I don't see why they can't keep everybody, at least for the moment.
    The question is whether JJ will return now that we have Granger.
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    Yea i think so to... but we do get something very very much better in return

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    so where does this leave fred jones? Man we are so DEEP! that will work wonders in the playoffs.
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    The question is whether JJ will return now that we have Granger.
    I'm sayin they can just keep them all and wave bye-bye to Edwards. I think Jones is a restricted free agent, which means the Pacers can match any offer he gets (someone correct me if I'm wrong). They can either just keep him and let those guys compete for minutes and the most deserving players will play, or they can put together a 3 for 1 type trade involving Jones (or someone else, opening up minutes for both him and Granger).

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    I don't think anybody on this team that plays the 3 is safe from trade -- not even Granger.

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    I'm with gniknave on this one. Bird's "noone is safe" comment made me think that.

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    so where does this leave fred jones? Man we are so DEEP! that will work wonders in the playoffs.
    Depth is overrated.

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    I remain solid on the fact that JJ will move to the 2, he's a pure shooter and likely will be a nice matchup problem there.
    JJ hs learned a lot from Reg this past year and will continue to get better, afaik the org is very high on him
    I like that idea - but is it realistic? Can JJones play D at the SG spot?

    I think Freddie will be gone, if its got to be someone. Wait a minute, is that possible with his contact?
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    I'm sayin they can just keep them all and wave bye-bye to Edwards. I think Jones is a restricted free agent, which means the Pacers can match any offer he gets (someone correct me if I'm wrong).
    Can someone tell me why Edwards is on the roster? We have 4 Centers to rotate in and out....why keep him?

    JJ is a Restricted FA...so we can match.

    I would love to keep JJ...but I'm wondering how the minutes will be split up. I love the depth....but how are we gonna split 96 minutes of playing time?

    SG - SJax / Freddie / Granger
    SF - Artest / JJ / Granger

    The problem is that I can't figure out how to give meaningful minutes to all 5 of them ( unless the minutes for SJax and Artest are cut down to about 28mpg )?

    Odd man out...I would say that we let JJ go to another team. I would argue that we may not need JJ as much as we would need Freddie....IF we follow a SG/SF rotation of:

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    - SJax ( playing the majority of his minutes as the starting SG )
    - Freddie ( playing all of his minutes as the 2nd-string backup SG )
    - Granger ( playing a small # of his minutes as the 3rd-string backup SG...if needed )

    SF
    - Artest ( playing all of his minutes as the starting SF )
    - Granger ( playing the majority of his minutes as the 2nd-string backup SF )
    - SJax ( playing a small # of minutes as the 3rd-string backup SF...if needed )

    The flexiblility of SJax/JJ/Granger allows us to have them play multiple positions...but at this point...I am more excited about having Granger as the backup SF then having JJ be the backup SF.

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