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    Just got here.

    Seated in a different section tonight so please ask at the door for the Pacers Party.

    See ya soon.

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    Looking for a 715 arrival i think.

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    Great!!!

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    Let's see if I can at least name who's here.....

    Hicks
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    Wish I could join you guys. I'll be back someday!
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    Doc Paul and his son have joined us.

    Forgot Pogi is here too

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    Vnzla81 and Seth made it and we have the quote of the night

    "Granger was better than Monta"

    Thank you Vnzla81

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    hello to my friends out there, hope you have a great night and enjoy!
    i'll read up in the morning
    So Long And Thanks For All The Fish.

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    Trader Joe is the latest to join us.

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    Going out on a limb....

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    Lance is Tigger from the 100 acre wood.

    Looks good but brings nothing to the story.

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    Hope everyone has a good time
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    It's a real treat watching these guys.

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    Pizza was good and the company was great.

    I think we started doing these in November of 2000. Crazy, coming up on 17 years.

    Thanks to everyone that spent time with us, both tonight and anytime over the many years. Makes me glad to be a Pacer fan.

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    It is truly a tragedy that no one besides those in attendance got to hear the metaphor of BillS regarding Lance, Bouncy Tigger, Humble Tigger, and the 100 Acre Forest.


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    It is truly a tragedy that no one besides those in attendance got to hear the metaphor of BillS regarding Lance, Bouncy Tigger, Humble Tigger, and the 100 Acre Forest.


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    So, what was the consensus on the cdash and Ace situation? Are they the same person?
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    Following are my summary notes from last night’s PD party:

    Attending members: Peck, Hicks, Bills, Jose Slaughter, Roaming Gnome, Diamond Dave, Imawhat, Sandman, Pacergeek & friend, DrFife, Pogi, DocPaul & WillieB, Vnzla, Naptown_Seth, Trader Joe

    Q: Happy with what we got for Paul George?
    • Reluctant-to-mild support … “best we could get” … “depends on whether/how Dipo & Sabonis improve”

    Q: Happy that Larry Bird is gone?
    • Almost all “Yes” – mixed record as GM (good drafter) … “It was time.”

    Q: Is Herb Simon a large part of the problem?
    • Mostly “No” – very good owner … shows his business-man side, “convince me” to spend more … Brad Miller & Nate are examples of thriftiness … wish he would let GM go after RFAs

    Q: Summary comments on Paul George?
    • Talented, but not a leader … traitor & a snake … diva … blame him not for wanting to leave, but the WAY he left … great player, but mentally weak … great ASSet while he was here

    Q: Nate McMillan?
    • Trash, Vogel’s way better (and would LOVE to return; talks regularly with KP, but not expecting anything) … stop gap … milquetoast … hopes he uses free-flowing (but stil not fast-paced) offense … good guy, but not the right coach … last season ... .500 coach … hope he shows us what we have

    Q: Is Myles Turner ready?
    • No (15/8) .. Yes to leadership – emotional backbone (18/9) … showing signs of being a leader … don’t want to put him in that position yet, too young and may get “Hibbertized” … McMillian stunted Myles’ growth last year vs. Myles did it to himself … a little bit like Roy Hibbert … ready in 1-2 years … not ready to lead

    Q: Myles for Kyrie Irving?
    • Collective "No" … maybe, but straight up, not with pick included

    Q: Lance?
    • Leader (18/7), no one to reign him in … smarter not to be a starter … traded by next year … fan favorite and at times the only one who showed heart … top bench (12/5/5)
    • Bills story of Tigger in a 100-acre woods: Lance as bouncing Tigger (falling out of bounds) contributes nothing, but giving signs of becoming the player we want him to be
    • Lance is Herb Simon’s favorite player … never really have liked the guy … I love Lance, never wanted him to go … Make-em-dance Lance is great … back-up, excellent 6th man … starting SF?

    (Proposal, hereinafter, to refer to BLF as the 100-acre woods)

    (Fun fact: Seth has a Tigger doll on his car’s dashboard)

    Q: Cory Joseph?
    • Love him, like Deladova (floor general) but better … all in … turned people’s opinion of KP … cost us nothing … good move … San Antonio product … better than Jeff Teague, but not as good as George Hill … excellent midrange jumper with variety of shots … starting PG from Day 1 … outstanding addition … salivating during contract year

    Q: Victor Oladipo? (Like trade?)
    • Best we were going to get (15+ ppg, maybe 20 ppg) … maybe leading scoring … not All-Star (East), too many changes in roster … look forward to seeing how he plays with current team … fits identity that KP is setting for the team … I’ll like him in principle, looking forward to his dunks, will be an All-Star … a rich man’s Monta Ellis … top out at (20/5/5)

    Q: KP’s Offseason so far?
    • Fabulous cap-space management

    Q: Sabonis?
    • More excited about Sabonis paired with Turner than about Oladipo … like addition of rugged player … see a lot of potential, can guard perimeter on defense and score in the low post on offense? … will help us be a better rebounding team … turns trade from best-you-could-get-in-bad-situation to good trade overall … like Rasho Nesterovic, could average (11/6) this season … 38% from field is concerning
    • Peck’s head-turning claim: Sabonis could become best passing center in Pacers history (17/10 in 5 yrs)

    Q: TJ Leaf?
    • Too slow, tweener, not strong enough for 2 years … hoping he turns into a stretch 4 (wanted Adebayo, but he already had been selected) … meant to be a PF, but may be able to play 3 like Chandler Parsons (but not as athletic) … 2 years away … can hit open jumper, ceiling is David Lee … shouldn’t have been a 1st-rounder, defense is beyond terrifying … possibly worst pick ever … Pacers hoping either he or Sabonis (different-style player) will be starting PF in 3 years … potential as rim runner … not a fan, can’t beat people

    Q: Internet Questions:
    • First to lose starting position – DC (also: Bog, Nate, Thad)
    • Biggest weakness – Scoring (also: TOs, defense (115 pts), rebounding, talent, shooting)
    • New Player most excited about – Sabonis for potential (also: Oladipo for scoring, CoJo)
    • New Player least excited about – Leaf (also: DC, Bog, Damien Wilkins)
    • Nuntius a Bucks fan – Who cares
    • Vnzla posts when sober – Yes
    • Myles Turner a franchise player – No
    • Fair contract for GRIII – range from (10/2) to (24/3) … This is his year to prove himself … $10M+ if MIP

    (out of time - restaurant closing; finished outside)

    Q: Pacer’s record/make playoffs:
    • Range from 32-42, mixed (5Y/3N) on playoffs

    Q: Desired rule changes:
    • Sweep fouls, intentional fouling, DPE increase, flopping a technical, zone defense illegal – would improve teams with centers, but Warriors would still be good

    Predictions:
    • Champion – Warriors (also: Spurs)
    • MVP – LeBron
    • Rookie – Fultz, Simmons, Fox
    • COY – Thibs (also: Stephens, D’Antoni)
    • 6th man – Lance, Eric Gordon
    • Scoring – Harden, LeBron
    • MIP – Brogdon, GRIII, Ingram, Devin Booker
    • Surprise – Adebayo, Hernangomez, D’Angelo Russell, Jalen Brown, Sabonis
    • Where Paul George will end up – Lakers (also: OKC)
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    A great time once again, Jose. Thanks for putting it together!

    If we're back at Arni's next time we need to try to get that table by the wall in the front corner again. It was a bit hard to hear when the restaurant was busy.
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    "Sabonis is going to average 17 and 10"



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    If we're back at Arni's next time we need to try to get that table by the wall in the front corner again. It was a bit hard to hear when the restaurant was busy.
    I agree. This is why I started to engage more into discussions with Seth and Vnzla because I couldn't hear everything being said.

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    So, what was the consensus on the cdash and Ace situation? Are they the same person?
    We've never been in the same room at the same time. I live out in the Phoenix area, sadly, so I have never been able to attend a PD get together.

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    Glad the Pacers PR department let bills go

    Also as you all can imagine Peck can't still let Danny Granger go, LET IT GO PECK JUST LET IT GO!!!!
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    A great time once again, Jose. Thanks for putting it together!

    If we're back at Arni's next time we need to try to get that table by the wall in the front corner again. It was a bit hard to hear when the restaurant was busy.
    100% agree

    That was a larger group and they booked first so it made since for Arni's to put them there.

    When I got there they had us set up in 3 booths. In hindsight, that might have worked better than the one long table.

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    I'll come out and own the 18/7 for Lance point of view. I'm mixed on how I feel about him, specifically because of how he handles himself on the court at times and I'm not proposing a strategy to focus on him.

    What I was/am saying is that his dominant nature on the court paired with no clear star to defer to and a possible lack of overall team direction lends itself to Lance taking lots of shots, pushing transition by himself on his many rebounds, and in general asserting himself into any vacuums left by his teammates/coach (which should be plenty). 3/4 FTAs, 1 3PM, 6 of 13 FGA is within his ability to reach if left unchecked...and wouldn't be a bad thing probably. 7 assist average might be tough, but 6 is for sure possible.


    I was one of the people worried about the pressure on Myles, but I hadn't considered the Lance effect at the time, or really the Vic/IU situation. Both could help redirect the fan attention/pressure from Myles. However I do think a ton of fans immediately went to "well with PG gone this is now Myles' team", and I think they expect progression that is not realistic in year 3.

    Hopefully a few weeks into the season the Lance show catches their attention instead and allows the spotlight to come off of Myles.


    Anyway, my Lance prediction is just that, a prediction based on circumstances rather than a recommendation or condemnation of any other talent on the team (like CoJo, Oladipo, Thad). If he really could put up 18/6/6 averages with a non-destructive level of FG% or TOs that would actually make for a great story.



    As for the overall night it was terrific as always. At this point I think we all fall back into familiarity really quickly. Its one of my favorite things about being a Pacers fan. I think there should be more of this and in bigger groups, like a mini Pacers "convention" or something with 50-100 people just celebrating the highs and lows of being fans outside of game nights. I'd like to think our fanbase can reach levels of higher engagement than other fanbases. After all they keep pushing the "in 49 other states...." angle. At least for one night and for 15-20 people that's definitely true. :-)

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