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    What is your deal with wanting to develop Turner? LOL
    His upward trending as a player on a rookie contract in a weak Eastern Conference with his peak happening when LeBron is no longer the best player on the planet...


    Remember when we could have gotten 1-2 solid players and a possible Top 3 draft pick in the 2017 NBA Draft by trading away Paul George?

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    Let's see, Pacers had a choice between signing a 20PPG guy over a guy whose leg almost got amputated few years ago and some bench player nobody cares about, I don't think that choice was hard at all you sign the 20PPG guy 10 times out of 10 and don't even think about it.

    Specially for 10mil a year at a time West freaking Mathews was getting 18mil.
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    His upward trending as a player on a rookie contract in a weak Eastern Conference with his peak happening when LeBron is no longer the best player on the planet...
    And?
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    I guess at the end of the day the Pacers choose Myles Turner over Paul George, they were willing to keep Myles no matter what even if that meant PG was leaving, bad decision in my opinion as I don't think Myles is all that.
    He's not all that right now, but his statistics 2 years in project him to be as good as a lot of people that are all that.
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    His upward trending as a player on a rookie contract in a weak Eastern Conference with his peak happening when LeBron is no longer the best player on the planet...
    He's been in the league 2 years. He's a has-been with no room to develop. No player ever improves after this point. Except the ones who do who are not on the Pacers that our FO should have dropped everything to go after while they were still cheap. Clear?
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    They did not get PG a max level talent his entire time here besides Roy Hibbert. Let that sink in.
    We all know that Bird was loyal to players from 2012-2015 as a fault. But most people here wanted to re-sign Hibbert. What about you? Did you read the tarot cards and know that Roy would fall off the face of the earth.

    FWIW Roy Hibbert is still unsigned. Has there ever been a fall from glory like that without criminal charges, drug use, or injury?
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    I'm saying instead of getting bargain players that fall to you, take the inherent risk of trading for an available star or overpay a little for max guys. But the Pacers have said they are unwilling to do that.

    If they are unwilling to spend around 20 mill on a star, what the hell makes you think they will for Brandan Wright??

    And what are we talking these guys anyway? Shaun Livingston wasn't the key to building what we needed to be a contender. Its just a complete lack of vision.
    What star would you have traded for back then?

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    And?
    I'm going to pretend that you have no point, and nothing meaningful to add. For whatever reason, you're implying that Turner won't develop, he's just a bust on the roster, and Indiana is wasting their time.

    Prove to me that he's the next Kwame Brown, and I might continue to entertain your nonsense.


    Remember when we could have gotten 1-2 solid players and a possible Top 3 draft pick in the 2017 NBA Draft by trading away Paul George?

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    FWIW I don't think Myles will be a go-to player. He isn't a franchise player in the least. He might make some all-star games, and be more consistent. But he will never be lights out a top 20 player. If he is the future alone we are in trouble. If he is the best player on our team we are in trouble. If there was an offer like these guys are claiming and the Pacers didn't take it, then I would be mad. Anyone would be.

    Until I hear that those offers were rejected, then I will assume they were never an option. The Minnesota-Chicago trade is an enigma. It came out of nowhere. And I think the Pacers never had a chance at trading for Butler prior to the draft.

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    We all know that Bird was loyal to players from 2012-2015 as a fault. But most people here wanted to re-sign Hibbert. What about you? Did you read the tarot cards and know that Roy would fall off the face of the earth.

    FWIW Roy Hibbert is still unsigned. Has there ever been a fall from glory like that without criminal charges, drug use, or injury?
    I'm not saying we shouldn't have signed Roy for goodness sake. I'm saying thats the only max level talent we've acquired.

    I'm baffled you took my post to mean we shouldn't have aquired Roy. My entire point is get the most talent available on those type of contracts so you can go into the lux.

    I think some of you just don't understand how GMs are manipulating the cap and the Pacers are doing all they can to avoid even having that option.
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    He's been in the league 2 years. He's a has-been with no room to develop. No player ever improves after this point. Except the ones who do who are not on the Pacers that our FO should have dropped everything to go after while they were still cheap. Clear?
    Of course we already know he is the next Shaq reason why you don't trade him for an star


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    I'm going to pretend that you have no point, and nothing meaningful to add. For whatever reason, you're implying that Turner won't develop, he's just a bust on the roster, and Indiana is wasting their time.

    Prove to me that he's the next Kwame Brown, and I might continue to entertain your nonsense.
    Vnzla believes Turner is essentially the next Serge Ibaka, not Kwame Brown

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    I'm going to pretend that you have no point, and nothing meaningful to add. For whatever reason, you're implying that Turner won't develop, he's just a bust on the roster, and Indiana is wasting their time.

    Prove to me that he's the next Kwame Brown, and I might continue to entertain your nonsense.
    Nobody has ever said that.
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    Vnzla believes Turner is essentially the next Serge Ibaka, not Kwame Brown
    IF lucky.
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    What star would you have traded for back then?
    Over the past few years off the top of my head, off the top of my head Reggie Jackson (perhaps PG's best friend in the league) Boogie, Butler, Dragic, Batum have been trade for future first round pick level assets and expirings or money match.

    But more deals could have become available if we were aggressive pursuing top talent.

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    Of course we already know he is the next Shaq reason why you don't trade him for an star


    Who said he was the next Shaq?


    Remember when we could have gotten 1-2 solid players and a possible Top 3 draft pick in the 2017 NBA Draft by trading away Paul George?

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    IF lucky.
    Based on what stats?


    Remember when we could have gotten 1-2 solid players and a possible Top 3 draft pick in the 2017 NBA Draft by trading away Paul George?

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    Playing like a legit starter in your second year in the league at 20 years old means you are on pace to be a top 20 player. I just laugh at people who say he won't be that good. Don't need anyone's justification to know he's top level talent.
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    IF lucky.
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    Turner was nearly as good as Surge Ibaka the second half of his rookie year. And that's his ceiling? Just laughable.
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    Based on what stats?
    Based on his game they are very similar, hell even if he was the next Lamarcus Aldridge (if lucky) as his fans think he is that is still not enough to do ****.


    My guess is if Chicago had offered Jimmy to get the real Lamarcus Aldridge Pop would have driven Aldridge straight to Chicago that same day.
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    Based on his game they are very similar, hell even if he was the next Lamarcus Aldridge (if lucky) as his fans think he is that is still not enough to do ****.


    My guess is if Chicago had offered Jimmy to get the real Lamarcus Aldridge Pop would have driven Aldridge straight to Chicago that same day.
    I think Turner has a chance to an Ibaka, and has a chance to be an elite player. He has shown flashes of being elite and hasn't had the luxury of getting the usage KAT has. The good thing is we will find out.

    It's the third year, this is usually the show me year and he getting the chance.

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    I think Turner has a chance to an Ibaka, and has a chance to be an elite player. He has shown flashes of being elite and hasn't had the luxury of getting the usage KAT has. The good thing is we will find out.

    It's the third year, this is usually the show me year and he getting the chance.
    Myles was kind of bad last year in my opinion he was one of the weak links on the team.
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    Myles was kind of bad last year in my opinion he was one of the weak links on the team.
    There you have it. Monta was good, Myles was weak. Nothing anyone can say can change his mind. Even Myles being an elite player, vnzla will find one point, magnify it, and ignore all the other points. He has dug down deep. Like he did with West and Paul this past year.

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    Myles was kind of bad last year in my opinion he was one of the weak links on the team.
    And there you have it, folks. No star player in the history of the NBA ever had a bad sophomore year in the league. QED.
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