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    I think many people in the media and on the Internet are delusional about what we got back. We absolutely stole from the Thunder. PG was gone regardless, and to me I thought maybe we'd get back a draft pick or a couple of players with potential. But to get not only one, but two former lottery picks that haven't even sniffed their potential could be, if we are lucky, one of the biggest wins for this franchise in a long time.

    I was right there with most of you, depressed thinking we were going to be bad again and who knows when we would ever compete again. Sure this is all hypothetical, but Dipo has all the tools to be just as good as PG or even better. I think a lot of people will be shocked at the step he will take next year with us. We have a knack for developing young talent, and I think he will take leaps and bounds here. Him and Lance may be the most electric pairing I can remember in a long time. We competed so well against the Cavs regardless of the sweep because of Lance and PG shooting lights out. What happens if we replaced PG with someone possibly even more gifted with an even better team? I think we could compete again.

    I look at us to be the only team that can take it to the Cavs when crunch time matters this year. Boston, Boston, Boston, but trust me keep an eye on that squad the master KP is assembling right here. Also being a huge Nate hater, he showed me something with the way he let Lance take over the team and make us look like playoff contenders again. I think Nate could be a good coach given the right squad because he does not seem to be as stubborn with the rotations and with the right talent, sometimes that's all it takes.

    I tip my hat to you so far Kevin Pritchard, a true guru like I sensed. Trust me, Dipo could do things here no player ever has done. We've never had an athlete like him with the talent to match. He might not be at PG's level yet, but to suggest he couldn't be soon is just plain cynical in my book, This was a huge win for a franchise with our backs against the wall and our lone superstar forcing his way out! This was possibly the best thing that could have ever happened for us, and KP made it happen! Just read this quote and article and come on over homerville, Pacers style!

    "Replacing George this season was not possible for the Pacers. Acquiring a star who could impact the game like George was not going to happen. Oladipo may not be to that point yet, but there is no doubt that he could become that type of player in the future.

    Very few NBA players can combine the game that Oladipo has to go along with the speed, quickness, and athleticism that the former IU standout has. The Pacers have not had the type of athletic ability that Oladipo possesses in a long time either."

    http://www.inquisitr.com/opinion/435...e-paul-george/

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    I look at us to be the only team that can take it to the Cavs when crunch time matters this year.
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    Boy I hope you're right!!!
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    For what you're saying to be accurate, he needs to do two things:

    - Improve his outside shooting
    - Get to the foul line more frequently

    If he takes care of those 2, he'll be a godsend.

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    I don't see any green in this post... I am assuming it is because of my color blindness.

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    Man I like Dipo a lot, but slow down there. He's no Paul George and while I think he'll improve here, I don't think he'll ever get to PG's level. That's not to say I don't think he'll be a really good player, he will be. I've said before I think he'll average close to 20 PPG here, and I think he and Turner will form a really good duo.

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    Also, I guarantee sabonis will play at his dad's level this year. I mean, as long as we are getting crazy
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    At a time when many posters are doing nothing but blasting every move, and every player in those moves, let alone the FO and coach, your optimism is appreciated. I sure hope it turns out to be well placed.

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    Has there ever been a player in history, that has played major, starting minutes through 4 years basically doing the same thing, same stats, same shooting percentages, same defensive rating, etc., then getting much much better all of a sudden?

    I cant think of anyone

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    Default Re: Oladipo Has A Chance to Surpass Paul George

    I really wish people wouldn't do this.

    What do you hope to gain by hoping that Oladipo surpasses Paul George?

    Just let the kid develop and let's see how good he'll be with a slightly increased role. He's only a couple years younger than PG anyway.



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    I like Oladipo, and I think Sabonis has some upside. I really like Myles Turner, and I think his best years are definitely ahead of him, and will include multiple All Star appearances. If Sabonis develops into a solid starter (same could be said of TJ Leaf), and if Oladipo has a little more room to grow, then I fully believe we're looking at a fantastic supporting cast for a real superstar for years to come. Oladipo's peak, IMO, is good #2/3 guy, and Myles' ceiling is good-to-excellent #2 guy. Sabonis and Leaf can be starters, at least on the Thad Young/Bojan level, on good teams. Cory Joseph might have some room to grow as well, and could be a solid starting point.

    But, IMO, if every one of those guys hits their absolute ceiling and maintains it for years to come, we will still need to sign or draft a legit superstar the level of Curry, Kawhi, Harden, Westbrook, or obviously Lebron/KD level but those are generational.

    That said, I'm gonna be here to support the team and the players and cheer them on like they were the second coming of MJ/Bird/Wilt/Kareem combined, and I fully support that Oladipo could be even better for the franchise than Paul "too good for Indy" George.

    EDIT: I also wanted to add that I really like what Pritchard has done because I think we've got the potential for a great supporting cast, and he's set us up to have MAX level cap space in one or both of the next two off-seasons.
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    im running low.....please pass the high grade you got

    Must be some gooooodddddd shizit there
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    No, he doesn't.

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    Default Re: Oladipo Has A Chance to Surpass Paul George

    As a player? Most likely not. As a leader and team mate? The bar isn't that high so yes he'll surpass him.

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    At a time when many posters are doing nothing but blasting every move, and every player in those moves, let alone the FO and coach, your optimism is appreciated. I sure hope it turns out to be well placed.
    Midcoasted's optimism is indeed appreciated (even if in this case it's a bit extreme) but I really don't see the FO being blasted. Most people seem to like Pritchard and appreciate his effort to rebuild. The CJ Miles-Cory Joseph trade has been universally praised in this forum. Sure, Nate is facing criticism but most of it is well-deserved. It's not even his fault, we just should have hired someone else.
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    I also wanted to add that I really like what Pritchard has done because I think we've got the potential for a great supporting cast, and he's set us up to have MAX level cap space in one or both of the next two off-seasons.
    This is part of what I'm looking at as well.

    This team is now much more attractive to a top level player than it was just a month or so ago. It will also have the capability to add the sort of salary (salaries?) that a player of that level will command while many other teams would struggle to get that space.

    It only takes one domino to fall in place.

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    Dude can't shoot, and has a very time finishing, and is afraid of contact. He has a lot of ways to go.

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    I think he's going to be a high character culture reset kind of guy. But there is literally no way in hell that he will ever match the talent of PG. Period.

    I predict a playoff miss this year but eager to get on with the reset. Last year as a fan was absolutely BRUTAL.


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    Dude can't shoot, and has a very time finishing, and is afraid of contact. He has a lot of ways to go.
    How many times do people have to post his shooting percentages before this myth dies?
    As to being afraid of contact? Have you not watched him? At all?

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    No, he doesn't.
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    Has there ever been a player in history, that has played major, starting minutes through 4 years basically doing the same thing, same stats, same shooting percentages, same defensive rating, etc., then getting much much better all of a sudden?

    I cant think of anyone
    Chauncey Billups
    Kyle Lowry
    Detlef Schrempf?
    Last edited by Ozwalt72; 07-10-2017 at 02:19 PM.
    "man, PG has been really good."

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    I really wish people wouldn't do this.

    What do you hope to gain by hoping that Oladipo surpasses Paul George?

    Just let the kid develop and let's see how good he'll be with a slightly increased role. He's only a couple years younger than PG anyway.
    Agreed. It's not fair to put Paul George expectations on VO. Let's see what we get out of him.
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    I can't stand that bag we traded to OKC, but let's not get too crazy.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sollozzo View Post
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    I can't stand that bag we traded to OKC, but let's not get too crazy.......
    Well many have been crazy negative so maybe crazy positive gives balance. Got to be crazy.

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    Default Re: Oladipo Has A Chance to Surpass Paul George

    Like most people reading your statement, I instantly discredited the claim. I thought OP was nuts, so I went directly to basketball-reference to look at Dipo's stats. I'm a Purdue guy, so I know less about him than a lot of you.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...oladivi01.html

    I have to say I'm encouraged. I was mostly concerned about his shooting percentages, but they have gone up his entire career.

    (2013 > 2014 > 2015 > 2016)

    FG %: .419 > .436 > .438 > .442
    3P %: .327 > .339 > .348 > .361
    eFG%: .458 > .474 > .489 > .510

    His FT% did go down, but so did his FT rate (drastically). I attribute that to Westbrook. If he can get to the line 5 times a game his % will likely go up.

    His assist numbers in Orlando were decent, 4 a game each year. That went down to 2.6 last year, again likely because of Westbrook.

    I imagine him putting up 18-4-4 next season. He just turned 25 so he still has room to improve.

    If he can be 3/4 of what PG (hopefully with some consistency), I will be very happy. I thought he was maybe 1/2 the player, so this is welcome news. I honestly thought Sabonis was the meat of that trade. This trade could turn out better than expected.

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