Results 1 to 21 of 21

Thread: Good article calling out "Big Shot Bob" Horry

  1. #1
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Indianapolis
    Age
    40
    Posts
    117

    Default Good article calling out "Big Shot Bob" Horry

    http://slate.msn.com/id/2121018/

    An interesting read in light of the recent ridiculous hall of fame talk. Also a nice subtle swat at the Sports Guy nestled in there.


    Sideshow Bob
    Is Robert Horry the NBA's best clutch shooter or its best con man?
    By Felix Gillette


    In Tuesday's Game 3 of the NBA Finals, San Antonio and Detroit are tied with about a minute left in the third quarter. The Spurs' Robert Horry launches a high-arching three-pointer from the top of the key. Nothing but glass. Forty-five seconds later, Horry drives in for a layup—rejected. When the Pistons run out on a fast break, Horry tries to block Richard Hamilton's shot from behind—goaltending.

    In less than a minute, Horry's burst of bad play has helped the Pistons lock up a victory. But don't tell that to the announcers. "That's a guy," says ABC's Hubie Brown, "who is not giving up on anything."

    This year's playoffs have followed an all-too-familiar script. Robert Horry throws up a bunch of bricks. Robert Horry gets celebrated as "Big Shot Bob," legendary sharpshooter and five-time NBA champion. In both 2003 and 2004, Horry's missed three-pointers helped eliminate his teams from the playoffs. Yet during this year's finals, there's a commercial showing then-Laker Robert Horry hitting a three from the corner against the 76ers back in 2001. "The Finals," says a voice-over, "where legends are born." In Horry's case, it's more like, "The Finals, where legends are nurtured, coddled, and defended against reality."

    Robert Horry's career has been built on a great, underappreciated basketball truth: Big shots are only big shots if you make them. Unlike a missed field goal or a botched ground ball, a missed three-pointer is imminently forgettable. Even the best long-range shooters miss most of the time. Every NBA game has dozens and dozens of misfires, all of which look more or less the same. One more miss, no matter how important the context, tends to get lost in the clutter. If you're a role player, that goes double—nobody expected you to make the shot anyway.

    Horry's true genius isn't his clutch shooting. It's his understanding of roundball amnesia. After sinking a buzzer-beater against Sacramento in the 2002 playoffs, Horry explained his philosophy. "If I hit it we win, if I miss y'all are going to blame the stars for losing the game anyway," he told the Washington Post's Michael Wilbon. "There's no pressure on me." Horry has none of the guts and gets all of the glory. In the 2003 playoffs, Horry went 2-for-38 from behind the arc—and everybody blamed Shaq and Kobe for the Lakers' downfall. After this year's Game 3 drubbing, Horry got off again—it was Manu Ginobili's and Tim Duncan's fault.

    The Big Shot Bob persona is so overwhelming that it blocks out more than missed shots. Remember when Horry took a swing at Utah's Jeff Hornacek in 1997? What a clutch punch! Or when he threw a towel in the face of his coach, Danny Ainge, that same year? Dagger! How about when he got fined for shoving a cameraman in 2003? Now that's killer instinct!

    After Game 2 of this year's finals, in which Horry scored 12 points on 4-for-10 shooting, ESPN.com's Bill Simmons declared Horry "one of the more important team players of the last 35 years," and possibly even deserving of a spot in the Hall of Fame. Horry's reputation as a great team player is a bit of a mix-up. It's more accurate to say he's been the teammate of great players: Hakeem Olajuwon in Houston, Shaquille O'Neal in Los Angeles, and Tim Duncan in San Antonio. Horry has made his career coasting on other player's coattails. He's 6-feet-10, yet he lets his teammates scrap in the paint for offensive rebounds while he hovers vulturelike at the three-point line. On offense, he's incapable of creating an open shot for himself. Instead, he stands around waiting for the defense to double-team his superstar teammate, hoping for an open look.

    Horry isn't even the best forward from the University of Alabama in this year's finals. Antonio McDyess' career averages (15.7 points, .494 shooting percentage, 8.5 rebounds) dwarf Horry's feeble stat line (7.5 points per game, .431 shooting percentage, 5.0 rebounds). Yet all the glory goes to Horry.

    During the first half of Game 3, Horry became the all-time leader in three-pointers made during the NBA Finals, passing Michael Jordan. Only Reggie Miller has made more playoff three-pointers than Horry. What a clutch shooter! Better than Jordan! Never mind that Horry has made only 227 of 634 of his playoff threes—a mediocre .358 shooting percentage. After all, who's going to remember any of those 407 misses?

  2. #2
    Member Ragnar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Fort Wayne, IN
    Age
    42
    Posts
    5,864

    Sports Logo

    Default Re: Good article calling out "Big Shot Bob" Horry

    If you are going to take the shots that either win or lose games you are going to be both the Hero and the goat. I dont know how a Pacer fan can ***** about Horry not hitting each and every single game winner. That guy has hit some damn big shots in his career and every team in the NBA needs and wants a guy like that. He is not the highest paid guy on the team but he takes the money shots.

  3. #3
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Frankfort, IN
    Posts
    9,136

    Default Re: Good article calling out "Big Shot Bob" Horry

    I wonder if Felix wrote the same article whenever Jordan missed a clutch shot?

    There's a reason Horry has a rep as a player who hits big shots - because he does. He also misses some. So does everyone.
    The poster formerly known as Rimfire

  4. #4
    Go Colts! Shade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Age
    36
    Posts
    44,271

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Good article calling out "Big Shot Bob" Horry

    Guess this nixes his shot at the HOF, eh?

    How many clutch shots has Horry had the opportunity to take in this series? The Spurs have gotten MAULED the last two games -- it hasn't been close enough for a shot or two to matter.

  5. #5
    Banned Fool's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Posts
    2,408

    Default Re: Good article calling out "Big Shot Bob" Horry

    You can't miss them if you don't take them. Chris Webber has probably only missed 2 clutch shots in his entire career. Thats definately not a stat to carry with pride.

  6. #6
    Go Colts! Shade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Age
    36
    Posts
    44,271

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Good article calling out "Big Shot Bob" Horry

    Quote Originally Posted by Fool
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    You can't miss them if you don't take them. Chris Webber has probably only missed 2 clutch shots in his entire career. Thats definately not a stat to carry with pride.
    Which makes him 0-for-2.

  7. #7
    Banned Fool's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Posts
    2,408

    Default Re: Good article calling out "Big Shot Bob" Horry

    Precisely.

  8. #8
    Member efx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Age
    36
    Posts
    1,657

    Default Re: Good article calling out "Big Shot Bob" Horry

    Actually, CWebb had a buzzerbeater win against the Celtics a couple of years ago

  9. #9
    Banned Fool's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Posts
    2,408

    Default Re: Good article calling out "Big Shot Bob" Horry

    I'm sure it was accidental.

  10. #10
    Go Colts! Shade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Age
    36
    Posts
    44,271

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Good article calling out "Big Shot Bob" Horry

    Quote Originally Posted by efx
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Actually, CWebb had a buzzerbeater win against the Celtics a couple of years ago
    I think he went to signal a timeout, when the ball slipped out of his hands and into the basket.

  11. #11
    foretaz
    Guest

    Default Re: Good article calling out "Big Shot Bob" Horry

    Quote Originally Posted by Shade
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    I think he went to signal a timeout, when the ball slipped out of his hands and into the basket.
    did they have any timeouts left?

  12. #12
    Member skyfire's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Age
    32
    Posts
    1,559

    Default Re: Good article calling out "Big Shot Bob" Horry

    Horry was playing pretty well in game 2 when everything was going right for the Spurs.

    Dice has been huge for the Pistons in games 3 and 4, alot of the time burying those mid range jumpers over Horry.

  13. #13
    Member rabid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    San Francisco, CA
    Posts
    2,464

    Default Re: Good article calling out "Big Shot Bob" Horry

    I agree that Horry is a bit overrated, but that article was pretty overly harsh, insulting even. Who knows how many buzzer-beaters Reggie, Jordan, Bird etc. have missed but it's a lot. Like someone else said you can't miss them if you don't take him.

  14. #14
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Frankfort, IN
    Posts
    9,136

    Default Re: Good article calling out "Big Shot Bob" Horry

    And there you go.

    The funny thing is, for the first 35 minutes 59 seconds of this game, Horry was far and away the worst player on the floor. Turnovers, dumb fouls, bad shots - second worst wasn't even close.

    Then he turned into a hero.
    The poster formerly known as Rimfire

  15. #15
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Age
    44
    Posts
    1,226

    Default Re: Good article calling out "Big Shot Bob" Horry

    The guy who wrote that article can s$$k Horry's d$$k. That was one article full of crap. Of course, the stars would get the blame for losses because Horry does not make the kind of money the stars make. For what he makes, he does contribute a lot.

  16. #16
    All is full of Orange! Mourning's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Bilthoven, The Netherlands
    Age
    38
    Posts
    8,987

    Default Re: Good article calling out "Big Shot Bob" Horry

    Horry was the man of the match imo. He was extremely hot in the 4th quarter and overtime, not too mention VERY clutch.

    So, whoever wrote that piece of garbage above can stick that up his a** .

    Regards,

    Mourning
    2012 PD ABA Fantasy Keeper League Champion, sports.ws

    2011 PD ABA Fantasy Keeper League Champion, sports.ws

    2006 PD ABA Fantasy League runner up, sports.ws

  17. #17
    Grumpy Old Man (PD host) able's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    London UK
    Posts
    8,699

    Default Re: Good article calling out "Big Shot Bob" Horry

    Quote Originally Posted by DisplacedKnick
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    And there you go.

    The funny thing is, for the first 35 minutes 59 seconds of this game, Horry was far and away the worst player on the floor. Turnovers, dumb fouls, bad shots - second worst wasn't even close.

    Then he turned into a hero.
    Exactly and it raises the question; iof he had less turnovers and stupid fouls, bad shots... Do they need him to make the clutch shots.

    according to the boxhe had 3 turnovers,I am sure 8 is a lot closer to the truth.
    So Long And Thanks For All The Fish.

    If you've done 6 impossible things today?
    Then why not have Breakfast at Milliways!


  18. #18
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Frankfort, IN
    Posts
    9,136

    Default Re: Good article calling out "Big Shot Bob" Horry

    Quote Originally Posted by able
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Exactly and it raises the question; iof he had less turnovers and stupid fouls, bad shots... Do they need him to make the clutch shots.

    according to the boxhe had 3 turnovers,I am sure 8 is a lot closer to the truth.
    At least twice he fumbled balls - good passes - out of bounds. Those will go to the passer but they were all him. I know one was from Parker (Nazr did the same thing once).
    The poster formerly known as Rimfire

  19. #19
    Edge of Reason GO!!!!!'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Launceston, Australia
    Posts
    3,779

    Default Re: Good article calling out "Big Shot Bob" Horry

    can anyone say HOF for Bobby ??

  20. #20
    Well lubricated Skaut_Ech's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    2,392

    Default Re: Good article calling out "Big Shot Bob" Horry

    Quote Originally Posted by able
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Exactly and it raises the question; if he had less turnovers and stupid fouls, bad shots... Do they need him to make the clutch shots?

    according to the box he had 3 turnovers, I am sure 8 is a lot closer to the truth.
    You beat me to it, able. I just now got to read this thread and considering the lovefest for Horry, I figured you would have gotten blasted by now. I was thinking the same thing.

  21. #21
    Banned Fool's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Posts
    2,408

    Default Re: Good article calling out "Big Shot Bob" Horry

    That makes a great case for why he shouldn't be in the HOF (which is ridiculous to even bring up anyway) but it doesn't say anything about the fact that he shoots and makes clutch shots. Sure was bad in the first half, but he wasn't nearly as bad in the first half as he was good in the second half.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •