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    Certainly, Horry deserves major props for his performance last night, as has been covered at length. That dunk was sick. However, you can't give a guy all the credit for hitting a wide-open three.

    What the hell was Rasheed thinking?! If it'd been in the middle of the play, where he got screened or missed an assignment, that'd be one thing. But, [HubieBrown] you're up by two with less that 10 seconds left. You're the best one-on-one defender on your team, one of the best in the league. Your coach has just given you the assignment: guard one of the best clutch 3-point shooters in league history off the in-bounds. So, what do you do? Double-down on Tony-freakin'-Parker?! What are you, high? [/HubieBrown]

    I still can't believe this. He supposedly said afterward that he "decided" to double-down on Duncan. First of all, that's not what he did. Not even close. Second, even if he did, they're up by two, why the hell leave the 3-point line unguarded? When a 3 will beat you, you better not even leave Dale Davis open out there, let alone a red-hot Big Shot Bob. Just amazing.

    Now look, I certainly have no love loss for Sheed. But, come on. This is going to go down in history as one of the worst plays ever. It reminds me of Reggie's Star-photo shot against the Knicks in '98. But that doesn't even come close. It was in the 2nd round, it was in the middle of a play, it only tied the game, Chris Childs was not Reggie's defender, he'd gotten switched off Jax, and, let's face it, it's Chris Childs. Not the epitomy of bball-IQ, not by a long shot.

    I can certainly sympathize with Brown saying last night that he "has to get over this (game), first." I still can't believe somebody would do something so stupid.
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    No Clue what he was doing or thinking. But that was the story of the night, constant bond heads plays.

    The Pistons best chance to the win the title went poof last night.

    Horry sick dunk to me will always and forever be a charge. As far as I am concerned any time you initiate contact by lowering your shoulder it is an offensive foul. But that is just me.

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    Horry made plenty of 3's with hands in his face and the defender running at him. He just made it from area code distance and was well beyond the arc.

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    No Clue what he was doing or thinking. But that was the story of the night, constant bond heads plays.

    The Pistons best chance to the win the title went poof last night.

    Horry sick dunk to me will always and forever be a charge. As far as I am concerned any time you initiate contact by lowering your shoulder it is an offensive foul. But that is just me.
    What he was thinking was to trab Ginobilli on the baseline. The Spurs said they didn't plan that but after the play I'm thinking, It's almost like Pop said in the huddle, "If we move the ball to the corner they'll come with the trap and we can throw the ball out to Robert."

    Sheed definitely blew it, but he almost blew it by calling for a TO when they didn't have one earlier. His head just didn't seem in the game - passed up way too many good offensive looks too - or chances to get good looks.

    As for the Horry dunk - shoulder? UNless I'm totally forgetting the play he was going up in the air over Hamilton when contact was made. It's a matter of if Rip was set or not and to me it looked like he was sliding.
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    "What was Sheed thinking" He wasn't thinking because the pressure of the situation got to him. Pressure does strange things to the mind

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    I saw it this way, Hamilton slid under. Horry lower his shoulder try drive over the player.

    Infact I saw the ref stating to the Pistons that he did not hit Hamilton in the chest.

    I guess those are just the new rules to make basektball exciting but I consider that out of control.

    If Ben Wallace tried that move would they would call the block. No it would have been a charge becuase the smaller player always gets the charge call in those situations.

    I don't know, I just didn't think it was a great play that it is being made out to be.

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    I saw it this way, Hamilton slid under. Horry lower his shoulder try drive over the player.

    Infact I saw the ref stating to the Pistons that he did not hit Hamilton in the chest.

    I guess those are just the new rules to make basektball exciting but I consider that out of control.

    If Ben Wallace tried that move would they would call the block. No it would have been a charge becuase the smaller player always gets the charge call in those situations.

    I don't know, I just didn't think it was a great play that it is being made out to be.
    Well, I could go on for hours about how games are called in the NBA - allowing an offensive player to "back down" a defender once he's established position (esp with the shoulder), jumping into a defender just because his feet aren't squarely set, etc. Billups got a call on Parker where he jumped right into and over him (hit Parker in the chin with his shoulder) and on the last shot by Rip he tried to clear space with his elbows.

    But I try to avoid talking about refs too much. NBA refs suck. Last night's refs actually sucked less than usual. It is what it is - sucky NBA refs are just something to live with.
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    Rasheed is taking a beating in many of the Detroit forums I've been at today. He definately had some poor plays seemingly due to lack of composure. Though, as DK points out it was Manu not Tony.

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    Well, I could go on for hours about how games are called in the NBA - allowing an offensive player to "back down" a defender once he's established position (esp with the shoulder), jumping into a defender just because his feet aren't squarely set, etc. Billups got a call on Parker where he jumped right into and over him (hit Parker in the chin with his shoulder) and on the last shot by Rip he tried to clear space with his elbows.

    But I try to avoid talking about refs too much. NBA refs suck. Last night's refs actually sucked less than usual. It is what it is - sucky NBA refs are just something to live with.
    I guess I am not so much talking about the officials as the media. but I guess great attempts no matter if they follow the rules or not make great TV. how many times do we have to watch the infamous Jordan Pushoff as a Finals Miracle.

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    I'm just so happy that ***-Weed blew the game for the Pistons. I hope he is in serious depression today. I hope he feels real bad about himself. I hope he goes into a deep funk that he NEVER recovers from.

    It is so fitting that the biggest *****head in the NBA blew the game and cost his team a real strong shot at the Championship.

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    I'm just so happy that ***-Weed blew the game for the Pistons. I hope he is in serious depression today. I hope he feels real bad about himself. I hope he goes into a deep funk that he NEVER recovers from.
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    I think the initial thought Sheed had was to get to Duncan and foul him, but he saw that there was somebody else guarding him and thought that maybe he could get a jump ball or steal.

    Rasheed is a great player, it really isn't his fault the game was lost. When the Pistons went on that nine point run and had shut down Duncan for like 9:45, they could have finalized the deal.

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    What was sheed gonna do, leave Timmy open for a jump hook which probably would have gone in?
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    I think the initial thought Sheed had was to get to Duncan and foul him, but he saw that there was somebody else guarding him and thought that maybe he could get a jump ball or steal.

    Rasheed is a great player, it really isn't his fault the game was lost. When the Pistons went on that nine point run and had shut down Duncan for like 9:45, they could have finalized the deal.

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    What was sheed gonna do, leave Timmy open for a jump hook which probably would have gone in?
    What does Duncan have to do with anything? Duncan was near the lane, guarded by Ben. Rasheed's man, who he left, was Horry. He left him to double Ginobilli.
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    Whoa, sorry totally got my men confused. I knew what I meant to type, but my fingers didn't. I would explain what I meant to type, but by this time I have already confused myself. haha
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    I'm just so happy that ***-Weed blew the game for the Pistons. I hope he is in serious depression today. I hope he feels real bad about himself. I hope he goes into a deep funk that he NEVER recovers from.

    It is so fitting that the biggest *****head in the NBA blew the game and cost his team a real strong shot at the Championship.
    And this is why Pacers fans are so much more classy than Detroilet Pisstons fans( LOL I made a funny kekeke).

    He made a mistake. Any other time most people would just shrug it off as it is something most players will make a few times during their career. Unfourtenately in his case it happened at a crucial moment in a crucial game so that will haunt him for a bit I imagine, at least in the media.

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    And this is why Pacers fans are so much more classy than Detroilet Pisstons fans( LOL I made a funny kekeke).

    He made a mistake. Any other time most people would just shrug it off as it is something most players will make a few times during their career. Unfourtenately in his case it happened at a crucial moment in a crucial game so that will haunt him for a bit I imagine, at least in the media.
    amen.

    Of course, if Rasheed comes out and plays his *** off and the Pistons come back, all will be forgiven.

    Rasheed has every opportunity to play himself out of it.

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    You guys now act as if ***-Weed is some kind of a VICTIM for crying out loud! "Ohhh, the big bad media will torment poor Sheed now, because they are mean and uncaring and just too dumb to really get it like us dignfiied Piston fans."

    Guess what pychophants, your boy sheed has brought it all on himself. He's treated media people, refs and fans like crap for years. Just last week he was walking around showing off his wrestling belt. Now that's a classy move. That's winning with grace.

    I'll bet Tim Duncan will now start wearing his own championship belt, and cussing at refs every time they make a call against him. That would be a sight, wouldn't it!

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    Whoa, sorry totally got my men confused. I knew what I meant to type, but my fingers didn't. I would explain what I meant to type, but by this time I have already confused myself. haha
    LOL - no problem. Been there myself once or twice.
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    Sheed went over to help cover Manu.....the one guy on the team that hasn't made a big time shot since Game 2....who was already covered by the 1 guy on the team that has effectively shut him down.

    He made a mistake....it just happened to be the biggest one of the game. Has he come out and said publically that he knows he it was all on him for why the Pistons lost that game?

    or

    Is he gonna come out with his Guaran-Sheed for game 6?

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    Guess what pychophants.... [\QUOTE]

    I don't know if you meant to say this, or if its a typo for "sycophants", but if intentional, that's a good one!
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    "What was Sheed thinking" He wasn't thinking because the pressure of the situation got to him. Pressure does strange things to the mind
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    Guess what pychophants....
    I don't know if you meant to say this, or if its a typo for "sycophants", but if intentional, that's a good one!
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    You guys now act as if ***-Weed is some kind of a VICTIM for crying out loud! "Ohhh, the big bad media will torment poor Sheed now, because they are mean and uncaring and just too dumb to really get it like us dignfiied Piston fans."

    Guess what pychophants, your boy sheed has brought it all on himself. He's treated media people, refs and fans like crap for years. Just last week he was walking around showing off his wrestling belt. Now that's a classy move. That's winning with grace.

    I'll bet Tim Duncan will now start wearing his own championship belt, and cussing at refs every time they make a call against him. That would be a sight, wouldn't it!
    Geez, Roy. I thought I disliked 'Sheed as much as the next person, but I guess not. What crawled up your butt and died? Here, , have a Midol.

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    Geez, Roy. I thought I disliked 'Sheed as much as the next person, but I guess not. What crawled up your butt and died? Here, , have a Midol.


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    As disappointed as I am in Rasheed, we wound up on the losing end of one of the 10 greatest finals ames I've ever seen.

    Hey, life could be worse.

    Meanwhile, Rasheed has his opportunity to make up for his mistake. Not many players get a second chance so soon after commiting such a crucial error.

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