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    Also what is the point of having Young this whole time if you can't even trust him to play point guard on a **** team?
    Young could have gotten a chance before they signed Brooks. It doesn't look like he will ever get a real chance. He is just a fringe "G" league player.

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    I like it. Always been a fan of DC2. He'll be 30 next month. Would have preferred Cory Joseph for sure but once that news got leaked I knew it was dead & wasn't happening. So far it's looking like 85% of the board doesn't like this move so that's always a good thing.
    I know that I am in the minority....but I would have taken Corey Joseph and DeMarre Carroll. I know that Carroll has a big contract....but it's just 2 years and he's at least a somewhat capable 3D Forward.
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    If someone can name a young point guard who pacers can get to develop I am willing to listen. But we needed someone who can play point guard.

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    There is no reason at all that we should have been in such a rush to trade Paul George.
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    Bird: I wanted to keep our group together because in the summer, if David and Roy opt out, we're back to zero, really. We don't have that much, so you leave your options open. If we did make a trade, I didn't want to take on a lot of contracts -- because that's what usually happens. Plus, I liked my guys. They're playing well. If we keep the core together and Paul comes back healthy, we'll be right back to where we were.

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    The $10 mil is just under the amount of Salary cAp space that we have without letting CJ Miles Cap Hold go.

    It wouldn't surprise me if we ended up re-signing CJ as our future Starting SF to some overpaid contract.
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    Default Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

    Also don't forget there is a salary floor.

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    Darren Collison
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    Lance Stephenson / Glenn Robinson III
    Thad Young / Domanas Sabonis / TJ Leaf
    Myles Turner / Ike Anibogu

    I know I'm missing guys but the guys I'm missing has no future here. Keep plugging away Pritch.

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    Also don't forget there is a salary floor.
    The salary floor doesn't mean ****. I don't know why people care so much about it. You don't get penalized at all for going under it.

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    The $10 mil is just under the amount of Salary cAp space that we have without letting CJ Miles Cap Hold go.

    It wouldn't surprise me if we ended up re-signing CJ as our future Starting SF to some overpaid contract.
    Garbage players get 1st round picks, (WTF)! All of the NBA must hate the Pacers! LOL

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    Just to be sure.....2 years / $20 mil TOTAL / $10 mil per year....right?

    I am PRAYING that it is not $20 mil PER YEAR. I just want to be sure.
    $10 mil this coming season, $5 mil the next season.

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    This is premature, but it looks to be a good sign that KP might be going for a 1 to 2 year reboot!
    Garbage players get 1st round picks, (WTF)! All of the NBA must hate the Pacers! LOL

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    The salary floor doesn't mean ****. I don't know why people care so much about it. You don't get penalized at all for going under it.
    You still have to pay the difference to the players you have, but you're right, that's not inherently a penalty, like the luxury tax.

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    Seriously what was the point of trading PG so fast if this is your amazing plan?

    Pritch: "Yeah give me an offer if not I'm trading him real quick as I need to go talk to Darren Collison" ...
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    Not bad for only one year fully guaranteed. He can still play. I'm guessing Toronto wanted GR III for Joseph. Our top 3 guards can score for sure. Now Ellis has to go.
    Yeah I kind of think this means Ellis is gone. Collison could be our backup point guard, Lance at backup SG. Dipo at starting SG.

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    This is premature, but it looks to be a good sign that KP might be going for a 1 to 2 year reboot!
    Yeah I can't wait to see what are the free agents he is gonna go after ....
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    Default Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

    If we're going to tank could we do it without a domestic abuser on the team?



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    Seriously what was the point of trading PG so fast if this is your amazing plan?

    Pritch: "Yeah give me an offer if not I'm trading him real quick as I need to go talk to Darren Collison" ...
    Garbage players get 1st round picks, (WTF)! All of the NBA must hate the Pacers! LOL

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    I fully expect Sumner to be our long term answer at pg. I'm fine with this move for the meantime.

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    You still have to pay the difference to the players you have, but you're right, that's not inherently a penalty, like the luxury tax.
    Yeah, which isn't a big deal. Salary floor just means that's the minimum salary $ you are paying for your players. It's not a difficult thing to jump over, either. Wait until the trade deadline and take on some dead weight some team is trying to dump and pick up a minor asset in the process.

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    I fully expect Sumner to be our long term answer at pg. I'm fine with this move for the meantime.
    That would be nice. I don't really think we have the long term point guard answer on our roster currently, but if Sumner could be that guy, that would be a huge bonus.

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    Partially guaranteed 2nd year could make him a decent trade chip at the deadline or next summer. Could be attractive for teams looking to shed a bit of salary.

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    That would be nice. I don't really think we have the long term point guard answer on our roster currently, but if Sumner could be that guy, that would be a huge bonus.
    I think if it weren't for his injury this past season, he would have been a borderline lottery pick. Hopefully, he'll pan out. Even if not, DC is a super inexpensive (compared to salaries that are being given out) temporary solution while we see what we have in our young guys.

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    Darren Collison
    Victor Oladipo
    Lance Stephenson / Glenn Robinson III
    Thad Young / Domanas Sabonis / TJ Leaf
    Myles Turner / Ike Anibogu

    I know I'm missing guys but the guys I'm missing has no future here. Keep plugging away Pritch.
    Seraphin I want to keep as I'm not confident in IKE health.

    Lance and GRlll make the Pacers small at SF.

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    No issue with this. 2/$20 for a guy who can fill in as starting point guard while we lose as many games as possible. He's clearly not the long-term solution, so I'm not concerned.
    Yea you guys are freaking out, this is a good sign we aren't using our capspace just to spend and will wait until we have a good enough team to do so. Let the tank commence.

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