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    Stop it. You wouldn't be able to name the 20th pick of I gave you 5 tries without Google. Thad is a good role player and getting him was far from Larry's worst move.
    The 20th pick was our pick & we traded it for Thad Young...which is my least favorite move Larry ever made. I think I'd be able to name the player with 1 try without Google. Not to mention the player was drafted by Indiana & wore a Pacers cap. I think several fans would be able to name him.

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    Pacers are not building for the future, DC is not the future, I don't even know what they doing.
    Treading water. It's not a bad move, it's just meh. I don't think Cory Joseph would cost a first rounder, but other than that, not a whole lot of young guys out there to take a chance on. He's like a 5th starter in baseball who eats innings. Won't move the needle much either way. It's fine. Not good, not bad, just fine and unexciting.

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    No one's saying that DC is the future. It's just 20 million. That's bench player money under the current CBA.
    Still too much for DC I rather have Young and I don't like him.
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    I'm nowhere near a KP believer yet but I'll inch closer if he can find a way to trade Monta.
    With many teams looking to clear salary cap space for the 2018-2019 season, I am certain that it wouldn't be too hard to move him. There problem is that I have no clue what long term contracts and assets ( if any ) here will get back for the pacers in a trade for monta outer AlJeff.
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    I was only kidding when I posted about partying like it's 2009-2010 again.
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    To me it's not "forward thinking." I don't see anything remotely close to team building by bringing in this type of player on this type contract to be your starting point guard.

    If a signing is not helping the long term growth of the team then it's hurting it.

    This signing is clearly not a move to help move this team forward.

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    Still too much for DC I rather have Young and I don't like him.
    Nah, 20 million is exactly what a player like DC gets in this market. The contract is fair.
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    Would have rather taken a stab at Cory Joseph.
    I really expected us to sign Joseph, give the Raptors some cap room and land some sort of draft pick for accommodating them. I'm not entirely disappointed with Collison, but was hoping for more.

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    Remember when we could have gotten 1-2 solid players and a possible Top 3 draft pick in the 2017 NBA Draft by trading away Paul George?

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    Still too much for DC I rather have Young and I don't like him.
    We pay Darren $10 million next season. We pay him $5 million to go away or $10 mil to play the season after that. The second season is partially guaranteed.

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    I am not a DC fan, but if this ensures that Joe Young never sees a minute, I'm in.
    Lance is finally home. Whether he becomes our starting PG or he's 6th man, he's getting big minutes and he's here to stay. #llortontnia

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    To me it's not "forward thinking." I don't see anything remotely close to team building by bringing in this type of player on this type contract to be your starting point guard.

    If a signing is not helping the long term growth of the team then it's hurting it.

    This signing is clearly not a move to help move this team forward.
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    I think he will be a good fit next to Dipo.

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    There was nothing wrong with that trade and there's nothing wrong with Thad. The only reason to trade him now is because we clearly need to start building for the future. That wasn't the idea a year ago.
    Trade sucked. Plenty of good players were at 20. McCaw and Dejounte Murray for example. The dude the Nets drafted, Lavert, can also play
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    They are clearly going for quickness. I could see Lance moving to SF. It would be a tiny lineup though.
    Lance is finally home. Whether he becomes our starting PG or he's 6th man, he's getting big minutes and he's here to stay. #llortontnia

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    Default Re: Pacers sign big free agent Darren Collison for 2/20

    Collison is an decent point guard and the 10 mil a year is only 1.5 mil above the minimum

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    The 20th pick was our pick & we traded it for Thad Young...which is my least favorite move Larry ever made. I think I'd be able to name the player with 1 try without Google. Not to mention the player was drafted by Indiana & wore a Pacers cap. I think several fans would be able to name him.
    Honestly, at this point, I still wouldn't believe you because I have no proof that you didn't google it before you replied to me. Oh well.

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    Trade sucked. Plenty of good players were at 20. McCaw and Dejounte Murray for example. The dude the Nets drafted, Lavert, can also play
    Only in hindsight. I want you guys who all of a sudden hate that trade to bump the draft thread when it happened. Bet you guys loved it then.

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    Collison is an decent point guard and the 10 mil a year is only 1.5 mil above the minimum
    Not to mention his salary does down in year 2. Half of the $10 mil if that much.

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    Under no circumstances should DC be our starting pg. We got hammered by the Cavs because Teague and Monta were too small and DC is even smaller.

    Lance and VO is the way to go as our starting back court.

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    To me it's not "forward thinking." I don't see anything remotely close to team building by bringing in this type of player on this type contract to be your starting point guard.

    If a signing is not helping the long term growth of the team then it's hurting it.

    This signing is clearly not a move to help move this team forward.
    I'm not sure. Let's look at the salaries on the books beyond the 2018-2019 season. There is VO, the renovated salary for Turner, then very little else of much consequence. Is it possible that we think we can attract multiple decent free agents by being the team with most cap space to accommodate their desire for playing together. After all, that is the new personnel model that has been established in the league.

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    Under no circumstances should DC be our starting pg. We got hammered by the Cavs because Teague and Monta were too small and DC is even smaller.

    Lance and VO is the way to go as our starting back court.
    They were also abusing Lance every chance they got.

    It doesn't matter, though. We aren't trying to beat the Cavs. We probably aren't trying to beat anyone. Get good guys who work hard and fit well with the building blocks and go from there. Lance/Dipo backcourt is problematic. Plus Lance is the perfect 6th man.

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    No one's saying that DC is the future. It's just 20 million. That's bench player money under the current CBA.
    Since the second year is partial it is basically a cheaper Rose and Reddick player. One year bet that doesn't hurt next offseason. Larry could never learn to do this.

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    20th pick for Thad might be Larry's worst trade he made here. That trade did not work out at all. Now we're trying to deal him.
    Where are you hearing that they are trying to trade Thad? I'm gonna guess not from any reliable source. Just what someone on the forum (maybe you) suggested, and you're gonna run with it.

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    They were also abusing Lance every chance they got.

    It doesn't matter, though. We aren't trying to beat the Cavs. We probably aren't trying to beat anyone. Get good guys who work hard and fit well with the building blocks and go from there. Lance/Dipo backcourt is problematic. Plus Lance is the perfect 6th man.
    Not like they were steam rolling the tiny guys. They dared Lance to shoot 3's and he just about hit 40%. Not sure when he's going to get love.
    Lance is finally home. Whether he becomes our starting PG or he's 6th man, he's getting big minutes and he's here to stay. #llortontnia

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