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    For those that don't want to talk about Paul George or trade rumors this is the thread to talk about other teams/players in the NBA.

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    Frustrated fan: John McEnroe says Knicks a ‘total train wreck’


    NEW YORK (AP) — John McEnroe had a ringside seat for the ugliest bout at Madison Square Garden last season.

    He was sitting just feet away when former Knicks star Charles Oakley was surrounded by security officials at his seat, shoving them away before being handcuffed and arrested while watching a game in February.

    Even before that, the tennis great had begun to lose patience with his favorite team.

    “It’s like a total train wreck,” McEnroe said.

    The low point during a miserable 2016-17 season came when Oakley was dragged out of MSG in the first quarter of a game against the Los Angeles Clippers. A fan favorite as a player, he had fallen out of favor with the organization in retirement after critical comments about the team and MSG chairman James Dolan.

    McEnroe, who often travels for his tennis or other obligations, wasn’t aware of the history between Oakley and Dolan.

    “I didn’t even realize at the time that Charles had said bad things about him,” McEnroe said. “I hadn’t been up on that, so it wasn’t awkward for me when he sort of poked me in my back, Charles, right before the incident happened. I was like, `Hey Charles, how are you? This is my son, Kevin.’ He was with me.

    “So I didn’t put 2 and 2 together and I didn’t know what had happened or really what had transpired,” he said. “So maybe Jim was already uncomfortable because of past history or whatever and then when Charles and the security guys started to go at it, even before they started to come up to him I was like, `Uh oh, this is not going to go well, at all.”‘

    McEnroe is clearly visible in replays of the skirmish that were shown that night and throughout the next day.

    “To see Charles Oakley have handcuffs put on him was horrible. Like, I was sick to my stomach, as well as almost every other fan that was in there watching this as it took place,” McEnroe said. “I bet you Jim Dolan – this is just my opinion – had to feel terrible about what that was.”

    McEnroe grew up in and still lives in New York, and considers MSG his home arena. The inside cover of his new book, “But Seriously,” is decorated with ticket stubs from games and concerts at the arena, including a Knicks playoff game. But like many Knicks fans, he’s getting fed up with what he sees.

    “I mean I’ve been a Knicks fan since I was a kid, so this is just getting beyond belief,” he said.

    McEnroe has owned a home in Malibu, California, for more than 30 years. He often trained in Los Angeles as one of the world’s top players during the early-to-mid 1980s, befriending Lakers executive Jeanie Buss and Linda Rambis, whose husband Kurt played for the great Lakers teams of that era that were led by Magic Johnson and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

    “Watching this was like, I’m sitting there going, why the hell am I a Knick fan again?” McEnroe said, “because this is just absolutely unbelievable, watching Showtime.”

    Dolan hired Phil Jackson, who won five titles as Lakers coach, as Knicks president in 2014. But the team has missed the playoffs every season under Jackson, who feuded with Carmelo Anthony last season and didn’t speak to reporters at all while the team went 31-51.

    “I mean, he’s known as the Zen Master, like a master talker, and then he’s not talking to anybody,” McEnroe said of Jackson. “So this whole thing seems to have gone completely off the rails.”

    Jackson is still hoping to trade Anthony, who has a no-trade clause. McEnroe said he was never the biggest fan of Anthony’s game, but that the All-Star forward didn’t deserve the treatment he received last season.

    “It’s crazy to treat a guy that way,” McEnroe said. “It seems like, even if it would be better for both guys if they weren’t there – the Knicks and him – the whole thing just seems, I can’t believe how bungled this has gotten.”

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    http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/06/24/...t-of-the-nbpa/

    Chris Paul re-elected president of the NBPA

    NEW YORK (AP) — Chris Paul has been re-elected president of the National Basketball Players Association.

    Paul’s new four-year term begins immediately. He will be assisted by the union’s newly elected vice president, Garrett Temple of the Sacramento Kings.

    In his first term as president, Paul most notably helped the players and the NBA come together on a new Collective Bargaining Agreement that goes into effect on July 1.

    Paul says he’s “humbled that my fellow players have voted to have me continue.”

    Temple has a three-year term as vice president, which also begins immediately. He replaces Kyle Korver in that role.

    The other members of the NBA’s Executive Committee are First Vice President LeBron James, Secretary-Treasurer James Jones, and Vice Presidents Carmelo Anthony, Stephen Curry, Andre Iguodala, Pau Gasol and Anthony Tolliver.

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    @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!

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    LOL


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    Magic going all in on Lonzo could blow up all over his face.
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    Magic going all in on Lonzo could blow up all over his face.
    Maybe or he could very well be good as advertised if you look past his obnoxious father.

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    PG going to Boston, Jimmy going to Minny, Blake going to Houston and CP3 going to SA might be enough to build few more true contenders.

    Also Hayward going to Miami could create another great team.
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    Westbrook and the NBA fans definitely got to him. Dude's soft and in the back of his mind knows that title's cheap.

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    Westbrook and the NBA fans definitely got to him. Dude's soft and in the back of his mind knows that title's cheap.
    Yep. All finals MVPs are soft. Goes back decades.

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    This big3 thing is losing people left and right.
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    This big3 thing is losing people left and right.
    All started with bird, parish and McHale. That's what ruined the NBA.

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    All started with bird, parish and McHale. That's what ruined the NBA.
    Lol I mean the tournament, White chocolate got hurt, Maguette and Mobly.
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    Lol I mean the tournament, White chocolate got hurt, Maguette and Mobly.
    The fact it had anyone to begin with makes me weep.

    So these retired, out of shape ex players are going to get in shape for this? Half of them couldn't stay in shape when they were making millions. What a joke.

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    Maybe the big 3 is the beginning of a players controlled league?

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    The fact it had anyone to begin with makes me weep.

    So these retired, out of shape ex players are going to get in shape for this? Half of them couldn't stay in shape when they were making millions. What a joke.
    Got to watch few highlights on Instagram and it looks good, the place is packed as well.

    I can't wait to what the whole thing tomorrow though.
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    Maybe the big 3 is the beginning of a players controlled league?
    Oh yeah. Because the players floated this idea 19 years ago and it took all of one game to realize it was a laughable idea

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    Got to watch few highlights on Instagram and it looks good, the place is packed as well.

    I can't wait to what the whole thing tomorrow though.
    The XFL drew a packed house the first day too

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    Sounds like Iverson killed the big3 league on day 1. Everyone that paid money to see him deserved to lose it.

    He couldn't play 8 years ago. What made anyone think he could play now?

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    Sounds like Iverson killed the big3 league on day 1. Everyone that paid money to see him deserved to lose it.

    He couldn't play 8 years ago. What made anyone think he could play now?
    Sounds like you are a little bitter they traded for him.

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    In hindsight sure, just keep Billups and don't bother when the clearing the cap room.

    Do I blame iverson for his body giving out on him when he got here? No.

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    The XFL drew a packed house the first day too
    XFL actually drew well for the whole year. Especially markets like San Jose. XFL just rushed everything and the marketing was terrible

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    Iverson plays 9 minutes, shoots 1-6 for 2 points, then has a press conference about "passing the torch."

    This is a league for retired has-beens. Who are you "passing the torch" to?

    You can't make this up
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    All started with bird, parish and McHale. That's what ruined the NBA.
    Lol, chill out man

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