Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 38

Thread: CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

  1. #1
    How are you here? Kegboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Northside Bias
    Posts
    12,968

    Default CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

    I figure a number of you will enjoy this.

    http://www.sportsline.com/nba/story/8559381

    Excuses, excuses: That's all the Pistons have




    June 13, 2005
    By Tony Mejia
    CBS SportsLine.com Staff Writer
    Tell Tony your opinion!




    SAN ANTONIO -- Let's see here ....

    1. Two quick touch fouls on both Tayshaun Prince and Rip Hamilton compromised the Pistons' top perimeter defenders within the game's first seven minutes.


    It's getting old: Rasheed Wallace questions a call. (AP)
    2. What's up with Nazr Mohammed getting respect from the refs in the first quarter like he's Shaquille O'Neal?

    3. There was way too much face time on the Jumbotron for that wonderfully distracting Eva Longoria.

    Don't mind me -- just helping the Detroit Pistons with their laundry list of excuses for their 97-76 Game 2 loss. The Spurs took it to them from the opening tip, surging to an 11-2 start and never allowing the defending champions within five the rest of the way.

    So this one is especially hard to conceive of. Hopefully, the three items mentioned above provide a start.

    See, the Pistons don't get beat. When they lose, it's either the refs' fault, their tiring legs or their heads being elsewhere. They're the champs, baby. Says so right on Rasheed Wallace's wrestling belt. No one can actually enjoy the privilege of beating them.

    Remember, this is a team whose emotional leader calls Manu Ginobili "all right -- nothing special." Only fitting that the Spurs guard hit his first six shots to put the game away, nailing his first four from 3-point range. Nah, nothing special about him. Detroit is the team that has Miami head coach Stan Van Gundy boycotting the Finals -- "not a chance I watch even a second on my own," -- because he suspected "Detroit will cry on every call the entire series."

    Wonder if brother Jeff called and told Stan to turn on the game Sunday night, because he certainly would've recognized the spectacle.

    The Pistons are going back to Auburn Hills with an 0-2 deficit in the NBA Finals after perhaps their most embarrassing performance of the past two postseasons, and it remains to be seen how their psyches will handle it.

    Although you would expect two lopsided results to generate some humility, there was none in the Detroit locker room following the Game 2 loss, only the expected sour mood.

    "We still feel good about our chances," Wallace said. "It was the good ol' boys against the bad boys. Now it's the bad boys' turn."

    Bravado sure is hard to shake. 'Sheed walked alone as he boarded the team bus, prized championship belt still draped over his right shoulder. That luxury appears to be on borrowed time based on the results of the first two games.


    Unlike Game 1, which was hotly contested until the final quarter, San Antonio dominated the entire way, hitting 11 3-pointers, which primarily resulted from defensive breakdowns. Offensively, the desired plan of feeding Rasheed and generating offense from the inside-out broke down early, sabotaged by sloppy passes and the ever-increasing deficit. San Antonio ran off 30 first-quarter points, led by as many as 18 in the second quarter and was up 58-42 at the break.

    Given time to regroup, Detroit came out for the second half offering more of the same. Rasheed took a fallaway 17-footer, the Pistons grabbed the offensive board and it ended up with Chauncey Billups chucking up a 3-pointer. When the first points of the half were finally delivered by Rip Hamilton, he gave a point right back by yelling at the ref about not drawing a foul call.

    The Pistons lack of cool and constant obsessing over whistles is now clearly affecting the team's play, but when asked about it after the game, Hamilton answered with a terse "next question."

    The final minutes delivered a flurry of technicals, with coach Larry Brown and Billups earning warnings seconds apart. Why Brown would continue to whine over non-calls down 17 is beyond reason. Shortly after drawing the T's he waved the white Darko Milicic flag and pulled the starters.

    "With us, we just have to figure out how to go out and play basketball," said Hamilton, who should certainly follow his own advice. "I mean, we felt though the whistling didn't go our way on some plays. ... We should learn from the Miami series, the Indiana series." The Pistons are down two games in a series for the first time all postseason. Their backs are really against the wall, which is when they claim they're at their best. The Spurs have struck first, that's all. The Pistons aren't saying they're bothered, just directing their frustrations at the referees, offering up their excuses and giving little credit to their conquerors.

    "We really don't care," says Ginobili about the lack of props Detroit has offered. "We know how we are, we know how we play, how good we are. We've just got to stay humble. If people don't give us credit we just don't care.

    "If we were in their situation right now, we would be very upset and not want to make any more mistakes."

    The Pistons have to get their minds right, utilize their home court, forget about everything beyond their control and find a way to slow Ginobili, who has torched them for 52 points over the first two games, abusing Tayshaun Prince like no one we've ever seen.

    "He's not giving us any problems," said a delusional Ben Wallace. "We're giving ourselves problems."

    Of course, man. Whatever helps you sleep at night. We're fresh out of excuses, though.

    Come to the Dark Side -- There's cookies!

  2. #2
    Rebound King Kstat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Charlotte, NC
    Age
    32
    Posts
    28,262

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

    sheesh.......

    Not that I think they have any excuses, but the media just falls all over themselves to give whichever team WE beat excuses......

    Furthermore, I don't think the Pistons have used any excuses at all this series.

    This guy is just throwing mud at the wall. Please forgive the Pistons for believing they still have a chance to win, lol.

    If the Pistons were up 2-0, the spurs would be saying pretty much the same things.

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

    Division Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 1989, 1990, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
    Conference Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 2005
    NBA Champions 1989, 1990, 2004

  3. #3
    Grumpy Old Man (PD host) able's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    London UK
    Posts
    8,706

    Default Re: CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

    to help you further along:



    June 13, 2005

    BY DREW SHARP
    FREE PRESS COLUMNIST

    SAN ANTONIO -- So how does anyone blame the officiating for this abomination?

    No excuse du jour can justify the Pistons' meek resistance to the Spurs, the challengers to their throne. Through two games in the NBA Finals, the defending champions have been outworked and outclassed.

    They have been reduced to a punch line. The image of Ben and Rasheed Wallace stepping off the team bus Sunday with heavyweight championship belts draped across their shoulders inspires more mocking than motivation.

    The title is lost unless the Pistons find their identity -- and pretty darn fast.

    If they were as tenacious in their defensive effort as they were in chewing referee Danny Crawford's ear, they might not be teetering at the precipice of one of the most embarrassing abdications of the crown we've ever seen.

    The ultimate role team is having difficulty adjusting to an unfamiliar role -- road kill.

    The Pistons suffered a 34-16 disparity in free-throw attempts Sunday night in their 97-76 loss in Game 2, and that will only fuel the fury of those looking for blame outside of the Pistons themselves.

    But the harsh truth is that Manu Ginobili is killing Tayshaun Prince. The harsh truth is that Ben Wallace hasn't played worth a bucket of used Gatorade in the last five games. The harsh truth is that regardless of any difficulties with the officiating, the Pistons have no alternative but to find some way to play through the frustration.

    "We've got to do a better job of maintaining our poise," a solemn Joe Dumars said afterward.

    Rarely has a defending champion so easily unraveled emotionally when it thought outside forces weren't going in its favor. The Pistons had their crutches out early in the first quarter when they got some quick whistles.

    Save it.

    We're done listening.

    Larry Brown didn't want to talk about it afterward.

    "Next question," he said when asked about his team's crumbling concentration because of problems with the officiating.

    The Pistons can't accept the obvious: They finally have come across an opponent that plays "Deeeee-troit bas-ket-balllll" better than they do.

    They're beyond trouble, trailing the Spurs, 0-2, because they must find a way to stop beating themselves before they can figure out how to beat San Antonio.

    "We had better find a way to start winning some games," Ben Wallace said, "or we're going to spend a long summer trying to figure out what could have been or what should have been."

    They're not dead. Comebacks of this magnitude aren't impossible.

    Boston did it against the Lakers in the 1969 Finals, and Portland spotted Philadelphia a 2-0 series lead in 1977 before winning the next four.

    "I thought we got a little frustrated," Chauncey Billups said. "We cut the lead down in the fourth quarter, but then they got free throw after free throw, and that takes you out of your run."

    Where was the resistance?

    Tony Parker and Ginobili roamed the paint with little fear of retribution. They found leaks in the normally solid Pistons defense, which resembled the Grand Canyon in Game 2.

    The Spurs took exception to the Pistons' attitude that their ills were all self-induced. The Pistons attributed their opening-game difficulties to the demands of surviving a seven-game series against Miami and winning Game 7 on the road. They were confident the light switch that has saved them in numerous desperate moments would instantly illuminate them once again.

    But the bulb might have finally gone dim.

    The lack of energy at the outset Sunday night was inexcusable.

    The Pistons got a total of three first-quarter points from the triumvirate of Billups, Prince and Rip Hamilton.

    Three!

    It didn't help that Prince and Hamilton took quick seats on the bench after picking up their second fouls.

    There go those dastardly officials again. The refs have the audacity to blow their whistles when they see contact.

    The Pistons needed their most aggressive effort of the season against the Spurs, but instead they strangely coasted at the start, falling behind by double digits and not drawing any closer until their modest fourth-quarter push.

    When you play back on your heels, knocking you down becomes much easier.

    It probably looked a little awkward when the team's president stood alongside its question mark in an elevator after the Pistons' Game 1 loss, just staring ahead and saying nothing.

    When Rasheed Wallace reached his floor and walked out, Joe Dumars told him: "Shoot the ball."

    Most figured the biggest adjustment in Game 2 would be those three simple words.

    But this was a systemic malfunction. The engine that occasionally sputtered, yet still roared when absolutely necessary, might finally have run out of gas.

    Contact DREW SHARP at 313-223-4055 or dsharp@freepress.com.
    So Long And Thanks For All The Fish.

    If you've done 6 impossible things today?
    Then why not have Breakfast at Milliways!


  4. #4
    sc
    Guest

    Default Re: CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

    Officiating is not the reason they lost, that is an excuse. However one must question the constant barrage on officials lately.

    Are the NBA officials really that bad?

  5. #5
    Member efx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Age
    37
    Posts
    1,657

    Default Re: CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

    Quote Originally Posted by sc
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote

    Are the NBA officials really that bad?
    No, but there's nothing easier to blame when your team is down than the officials.

  6. #6
    Formerly PacerFanInAZ Cactus Jax's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Tucson AZ
    Age
    30
    Posts
    4,231
    Mood

    Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

    Quote Originally Posted by sc
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Officiating is not the reason they lost, that is an excuse. However one must question the constant barrage on officials lately.

    Are the NBA officials really that bad?
    And which team has barraged on them the most??? The Pistons, that's what the problem is.

    Game 3 versus Indiana, game 3 and 5 versus Miami, and now game 2 of the finals.

    The whining card is getting really bland here, and they only get more respect if they shut the hell up like Shaq or Duncan does most of the time down the floor.

    The problem is when your emotional leader AND your coach whine on practically EVERY call, the bad calls and tech's are msot likely to go the Pistons way.

    And Rasheed needs to stop with the whole nobody's good thing, and if they lost I really would wish they were forced to hand over the belt. I think the Spurs would just burn them though for how stupid the idea is.
    "It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."

    ----------------- Reggie Miller

  7. #7
    .
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Posts
    52,583

    Default Re: CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

    The Pistons have been whining like crazy. Not in the press, but during the game. Last night they whined all night long, from the players on the court, to the coaches, to the players on the bench. Lots of hollering and feet stomping.

  8. #8
    foretaz
    Guest

    Default Re: CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

    you could make a very strong case for rasheed being a cancer of sorts....hes a fantastic player with great talents....but he is what he is, so it seems....

    he came to detroit where they had a very cohesive, somewhat veteran team....but can anyone really deny the longer hes been there the more the team appears to be more like portland was? doesnt seem such a stretch to see some of the similarities...

    can u not see where this team, this year, is much more a reflection of rasheeds questionable oncourt personality? arrogance instead of confidence is not a good thing....defending champs should have confidence-these guys appear much more arrogant than confident...

  9. #9
    woman without a team
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    7,055

    Default Re: CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

    Personally, I think the Pistons are losing because they team they are playing doesn't have any injured players that I know of.



    Just thought I'd throw that little piece of mud up there and see if it sticks.

  10. #10
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    South Side
    Posts
    4,253

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

    Quote Originally Posted by foretaz
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    you could make a very strong case for rasheed being a cancer of sorts....hes a fantastic player with great talents....but he is what he is, so it seems....

    he came to detroit where they had a very cohesive, somewhat veteran team....but can anyone really deny the longer hes been there the more the team appears to be more like portland was? doesnt seem such a stretch to see some of the similarities...

    can u not see where this team, this year, is much more a reflection of rasheeds questionable oncourt personality? arrogance instead of confidence is not a good thing....defending champs should have confidence-these guys appear much more arrogant than confident...
    Since the Pistons have acquired Rasheed Wallace, they are 74 and 34 in the regular season (.685 winning percentage), they have won 2 Eastern Conference Championships in 2 years, and have won 1 NBA championship.

    I'm sure many, many teams would like that type of "cancer" on their team if they could get that type of results.

    Here's my "excuse". The Spurs are a better team.

  11. #11
    Member Jon Theodore's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Age
    29
    Posts
    1,762

    Default Re: CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

    Theres no way The pistons are winning another title anytime soon. This team is a joke. They are way too arrogant and can only beat injured teams, it's all true.

    Sheed is a cancer, Big Ben is the biggest baby ever. And the thing about Manu being "alright" seals the deal for Detroit being the dumbest group of ball players ever.

    Too bad Tayshaun and Chauncey are stuck with such clowns, I mean the Wallaces.

    Lets send Detroit Ron and JO for Tayshaun, Billups, and Rip....then Detroit can have a team full of headcases.

    ....Just kidding.

  12. #12
    Rebound King Kstat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Charlotte, NC
    Age
    32
    Posts
    28,262

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

    Personally, I think the Pistons are losing because they team they are playing doesn't have any injured players that I know of.
    We have two injured starters. One of them will require surgery immidiately after the season is over.

    The difference is, we don't trumpet them to the press....we fight through injuries.

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

    Division Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 1989, 1990, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
    Conference Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 2005
    NBA Champions 1989, 1990, 2004

  13. #13
    woman without a team
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    7,055

    Default Re: CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

    [clear throat] I said the team the Pistons are playing doesn't have injuries.






    I'm implying the Pistons can't beat a healthy team.

  14. #14
    Formerly PacerFanInAZ Cactus Jax's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Tucson AZ
    Age
    30
    Posts
    4,231
    Mood

    Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

    Quote Originally Posted by grace
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    [clear throat] I said the team the Pistons are playing doesn't have injuries.

    I'm implying the Pistons can't beat a healthy team.
    I'd say a top tier healthy team. Miami would have beaten them if Wade and Shaq were close to 100%. The Pacers would have been right there had O'Neal and Tinsley been 100% (and that doesn't include the Ron Artest story)

    The Pistons don't decimate anyone that's top tier. They win close, they lose close, they lose big. The reason they are losing and I know a lot of Piston fans aren't going to like it but there are really two reasons:

    1) Rasheed Wallace hasn't been able to work inside.
    2) Ben Wallace has been the worst starter out on the floor this series.

    Before you outrage at #2, really think about it.

    Billups was great in game 1, Rip has the Reggie effect on opponents (they're not leaving him open), Prince hasn't played enough to qualify, and Sheed brings the fire for the team.

    Parker has been great on both ends, Manu has been incredible, Bowen has worked his magic on Rip, Duncan is 20/10, and Mohammed has been fantastic in the middle (and I believe it was Kstat arguing with me saying that the trade with the Knicks was horrible for the Spurs).

    Ben is being exposed for an average defender (1 on 1), and he hasn't really been able to block Parker and Gino's shots. Also, his rebounding has been atrocious, and I almost feel that by next year Ben Wallace will be the WORST starter for the Pistons every game. The other guys are evolving their games, while Ben continues to be what he is, and right now it isn't good enough.
    "It's just unfortunate that we've been penalized so much this year and nothing has happened to the Pistons, the Palace or the city of Detroit," he said. "It's almost like it's always our fault. The league knows it. They should be ashamed of themselves to let the security be as lax as it is around here."

    ----------------- Reggie Miller

  15. #15
    How are you here? Kegboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Northside Bias
    Posts
    12,968

    Default Re: CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

    Quote Originally Posted by Kstat
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    We have two injured starters. One of them will require surgery immidiately after the season is over.

    The difference is, we don't trumpet them to the press....we fight through injuries.
    No, they just talk about what a "tough year" they've had.
    Come to the Dark Side -- There's cookies!

  16. #16
    Rebound King Kstat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Charlotte, NC
    Age
    32
    Posts
    28,262

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

    And to those doubting Ben Wallace, be my guest and continue to doubt.

    He's been awful this series, but It isn't because he's a bad player. The guy has as much heart as any player in the NBA.

    Next year, I fully expect to see the old Ben back, and a 4th DPOY.

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

    Division Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 1989, 1990, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
    Conference Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 2005
    NBA Champions 1989, 1990, 2004

  17. #17
    How are you here? Kegboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Northside Bias
    Posts
    12,968

    Default Re: CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

    Quote Originally Posted by Kstat
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    And to those doubting Ben Wallace, be my guest and continue to doubt.

    He's been awful this series, but It isn't because he's a bad player. The guy has as much heart as any player in the NBA.

    Next year, I fully expect to see the old Ben back, and a 4th DPOY.
    Well, it is a contract year.

    Come to the Dark Side -- There's cookies!

  18. #18
    sweabs
    Guest

    Default Re: CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

    Quote Originally Posted by Kstat
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Next year, I fully expect to see the old Ben back, and a 4th DPOY.
    Well, at least he'll have some competition this time.

    (AK47, Ronnie).

  19. #19
    Rebound King Kstat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Charlotte, NC
    Age
    32
    Posts
    28,262

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

    Quote Originally Posted by rcarey
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Well, at least he'll have some competition this time.

    (AK47, Ronnie).

    The difference is, I think he's going to have enough people doubting him next year, that he's going to go back to the old Ben, circa 2002. The Ben Wallace that was getting 14 boards, 3 blocks, and 2 steals a night.

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

    Division Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 1989, 1990, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
    Conference Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 2005
    NBA Champions 1989, 1990, 2004

  20. #20
    canyoufeelit
    Guest

    Default Re: CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

    He's playing and showing no signs of pain, but since we're losing, he must be injured!!!


  21. #21
    Rebound King Kstat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Charlotte, NC
    Age
    32
    Posts
    28,262

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

    Quote Originally Posted by canyoufeelit
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    He's playing and showing no signs of pain, but since we're losing, he must be injured!!!

    He's been hurt going back half the season, actually. It's not an excuse, but I am going to forgive him the fact he looks incredibly awful out there, and he doesnt challenge shots like he used to.

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

    Division Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 1989, 1990, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
    Conference Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 2005
    NBA Champions 1989, 1990, 2004

  22. #22
    flexible and robust SoupIsGood's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Lappy Go Hucky
    Age
    26
    Posts
    17,540

    Default Re: CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

    Quote Originally Posted by Kstat
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    ....we fight through injuries.

    Yeah and we wouldn't know what that's like.
    You, Never? Did the Kenosha Kid?

  23. #23
    flexible and robust SoupIsGood's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Lappy Go Hucky
    Age
    26
    Posts
    17,540

    Default Re: CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

    Quote Originally Posted by Kstat
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    He's been hurt going back half the season, actually.
    What's his injury?
    You, Never? Did the Kenosha Kid?

  24. #24
    Rebound King Kstat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Charlotte, NC
    Age
    32
    Posts
    28,262

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

    Quote Originally Posted by SoupIsGood
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Yeah and we wouldn't know what that's like.
    Apparently not, juding by the responses in this thread.....

    I can't stand talking about injuries. %95 of them are very poor excuses for losing. That's why so many players love to have their injuries plastered over every newspaper in America, so they can have ready-made excuses for losing.

    However, I'm going to stand up Ben in this case. He's competing his *** off, but he's not capable of doing what he used to do, right now. He's had a laundry list of problems over the last 2 months, his health among them. To his credit, he's never brought them up as excuses, and he's fighting through them. So I'm going to pay him the same kind of respect and not bring them up.

    In no way am I saying we'd be in better shape otherwise as a team, this is in defense of ben's performance only.

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

    Division Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 1989, 1990, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
    Conference Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 2005
    NBA Champions 1989, 1990, 2004

  25. #25

    Default Re: CBS Sportsline's Mejia on Detroit's excuses

    I believe he hurt his hip/back taking charges from Dwayne Wade, Allen Iverson, Jamaal Tinsley and other point guards in the NBA. I believe he also hurt his hand on 11/19, both of them actually giving Ron a shot to the face.
    Sorry, I didn't know advertising was illegal here. Someone call the cops!

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •