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    Larry browns a class act tho! lol
    Looking at your new signature, and uh, Ron Artest is not a champ. Only actual champions deserve that phrase. Stephen Jackson, go ahead. Past Pistons/Lakers/Spurs, etc, sure. But Ron Artest has won no rings. Not a champ.

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    Looking at your new signature, and uh, Ron Artest is not a champ. Only actual champions deserve that phrase. Stephen Jackson, go ahead. Past Pistons/Lakers/Spurs, etc, sure. But Ron Artest has won no rings. Not a champ.

    You saved me the trouble.

    "Champion" isn't a phrase that is given. It's EARNED.

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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    champion
    adj1: clearly superior or having the attributes of a winner;
    2: holding first place in a contest; "a champion show dog"; "a
    prizewinning wine" [syn: prizewinning]
    n 1: someone who has won first place in a competition [syn: champ,
    title-holder]
    2: someone who fights for a cause [syn: fighter, hero, paladin]

    I'd say Ron falls under two of those.

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    you should have bolded this instead:

    n 1: someone who has won first place in a competition [syn: champ,
    title-holder]

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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    I'm not sure what the Pistons are complaining about either. The two calls that i saw as being questionable were the Manu/Ben charge/block and Prince's phantom second fouls as he was backing away from the Spur driving to the basket in game 2. The thing is, you could find the same type of calls aginst the Spurs as well.

    I'm surprised that the refs are as patient with Rasheed as they are. He does a so much moaning and complaining that he probably could get more T's called against him. Hamilton is getting upset that he isn't getting the calls he did the past 2 series because he has a defender whose reputation is bigger than his own. Ben wasn't complaining when he got the same breakes earlier either. The funny thing about this is, these are the same complaints that every team that has played the Spurs this post season has made.

    As for the Pistons' roster, I believe their front line is very solid. They really need a perimeter player that can take people one on one when needed. Either Billups or Prince need to start doing it or they need to find one for next year. Hamilton is much like Reggie in that he doesn't seem to beable to create his own shot.

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    Did I read this right... Larry Brown is complaining about DAN Crawford?

    Let's do a quick, unofficial poll among those of us geeky enough to know alot about the officials.

    Does anybody have Dan Crawford any lower than their "top-three" for officials?

    And Ronnie Garretson isn't great, but he isn't awful either (well, by NBA officials standards, I mean ) - he's just middle-of-the-pack.
    Danny's pretty good. He's only ****ed us two or three times that I can remember.

    Ronnie Garretson was the punk *** who ran away and hid the night of the brawl. Besides that, well, no he still sucks. Which does make him middle-of-the-pack in the NBA.
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    Ron is a champ in my mind. The guy should be boasting atleast 2 rings by now. Last year and this season. It's ok, Detroits low lifes can't keep him down for long.
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    I'll go ahead and use your own words in another thread:

    "It should be...,Key word SHOULD. But... isn't."

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    Ron is a champ in my mind. The guy should be boasting atleast 2 rings by now. Last year and this season. It's ok, Detroits low lifes can't keep him down for long.
    And Stockton and Malone SHOULD have how many?

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    And Stockton and Malone SHOULD have how many?
    At least one.











    Everybody should have one. That way no one would feel left out.

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    At least one.











    Everybody should have one. That way no one would feel left out.

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    Ron is a champ in my mind. The guy should be boasting atleast 2 rings by now. Last year and this season. It's ok, Detroits low lifes can't keep him down for long.

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    Even a Pacer fan is laughing at that comment....

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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    At least one.











    Everybody should have one. That way no one would feel left out.

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    ooo ooo......MULTI-CLASS NBA BASKETBALL!! The IHSAA can show them the model of how to do it!

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    Danny Crawford is in the top three, no doubt.

    Only the top 12 work the NBA Finals. So if you want to know who the league thinks are the best 12, look at who is out there.

    So after 4 games all 12 refs have worked a game. But that leaves 3 games left, so I assume the top 9 work those.

    Last night you had Joey Crawford (Who I believe is ranked #1 by the NBA.

    Here are the 9 refs that have worked.

    Game #1 Steve Javie, Ron Garretson, Mike Callahan

    Game #2 Dan Crawford, Bernie Fryer, Jack Nies

    Game #3 Joey Crawford, Bob Delaney, Bennett Salvatore.


    We know Bevetta will work game #4, so will Eddie F. Rush. I don't know who will be the 3rd. Ken Mauer, Derrick Stafford, Greg Williard, Joe Forter, Tom Washington. Take your pick


    I am guessing the top three refs are Joey Crawford, Danny Crawford and Steve Javie.

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    Here are the 9 refs that have worked.

    Game #1 Steve Javie, Ron Garretson, Mike Callahan

    Game #2 Dan Crawford, Bernie Fryer, Jack Nies

    Game #3 Joey Crawford, Bob Delaney, Bennett Salvatore.
    If these are the best the NBA has to offer no wonder I hate the NBA.

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    Danny Crawford is in the top three, no doubt.

    Only the top 12 work the NBA Finals. So if you want to know who the league thinks are the best 12, look at who is out there.

    So after 4 games all 12 refs have worked a game. But that leaves 3 games left, so I assume the top 9 work those.

    Last night you had Joey Crawford (Who I believe is ranked #1 by the NBA.

    Here are the 9 refs that have worked.

    Game #1 Steve Javie, Ron Garretson, Mike Callahan

    Game #2 Dan Crawford, Bernie Fryer, Jack Nies

    Game #3 Joey Crawford, Bob Delaney, Bennett Salvatore.


    We know Bevetta will work game #4, so will Eddie F. Rush. I don't know who will be the 3rd. Ken Mauer, Derrick Stafford, Greg Williard, Joe Forter, Tom Washington. Take your pick


    I am guessing the top three refs are Joey Crawford, Danny Crawford and Steve Javie.
    No fan should know that much about NBA refs.

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    Even a Pacer fan is laughing at that comment....
    I don't get it. I'm a Piston fan, which is why I laughed at that comment.

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    I don't get it. I'm a Piston fan, which is why I laughed at that comment.
    I think it's an ode to your pessimistic attitude.

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    let me say this about larry brown and his legacy....i have always had a great deal of respect for larry....he always seemed to be truly concerned about playing the right way and doing things the right way...

    problem is larry has gotten caught up in some of his self induced problems....

    before he might never have wanted 'it' bad enuff...he was more interested in doing and playing the right way and took more consolance if they did that and lost than winning the championship...

    how many times have we heard him say they played hard....gave great effort...thats all i can ask of my guys....

    this postseason especially he knows, because he knows hes leaving, he wants the championship....and the reason he wants it is if he doesnt win it , this postseason will be remembered for his flirtation with the cavs and what effect it had on his team.....so now we have seen a larry that is concerned first and foremost with repeating as champions, basically to save his image from that big hit of what hes possibly done to distract this team....

    ultimately , hes somewhat sold out....the things that really matter to him, have been forced to take a back seat....i have no doubt that larry has a great heart...u see him do what he did with reggie and u see his whole history and u really know hes a great guy inside....and for most all of his career hes been that way....

    i do, however, think he got himself into a huge bind and has not handled it very well....and i think at some time he will look back and be very disappointed with how hes handled it....the larry brown of this postseason is not the larry brown weve grown to know.....

    his health issues, his impending departure, his flirtation with the cavs, his ego, and his wanting to take this team out on a storybook finish have all lead to larry kind of straying away from what larry has always come to stand for...

    and i think when he looks back, hes gonna be truly disturbed by the fact he 'sold out'.....because he cares...

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    I think it's an ode to your pessimistic attitude.
    Probably. Although in the Pacer series I did it strictly for the reverse jinx, at least in Game 5 & 6.

    Calling me a Pacer fan, though, is positively Sassan-esque. No offense to anyone here, I'm sure you wouldn't want to be mistaken as Piston fans. Same with me.

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    I'm sure you wouldn't want to be mistaken as Piston fans. Same with me.
    Well, nobody would make that mistake.....

    Sorry, you just set yourself up for that one.

    Its a joke shags, but you really DO seem like you're always a bigger fan of whomever we're playing.

    -you picked us to lose to Indiana

    -you picked us to lose to miami

    -you picked us to get blown out last night to SA

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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    Well, nobody would make that mistake.....

    Sorry, you just set yourself up for that one.

    Its a joke shags, but you really DO seem like you're always a bigger fan of whomever we're playing.

    -you picked us to lose to Indiana

    -you picked us to lose to miami

    -you picked us to get blown out last night to SA
    its called managing expectations to the extreme....

    its called expect the worst and be happy with everything else....

    if u expect to get blown out and u barely lose, it might be a bit less anguishing for him as hes already prepared himself for a blowout loss....

    and if u win, its sheer euphoria....how much more excited to u think he was last nite after blowing out the spurs when he was preparing to get blown out versus u who just expected it(so u let on anyway-though i have a feeling alot of us dont necessarily buy the overconfidence-but no matter)

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    Well, nobody would make that mistake.....

    Sorry, you just set yourself up for that one.

    Its a joke shags, but you really DO seem like you're always a bigger fan of whomever we're playing.

    -you picked us to lose to Indiana

    -you picked us to lose to miami

    -you picked us to get blown out last night to SA


    I'm just a pessimist by nature, and I'm humble too.

    But I'll tell you this. My mom's made me 3 collages honoring the 3 Pistons championship teams (highly recommend this to Pacer fans if they ever win; they're cool as hell).

    Well, I'm in the process of moving from Indianapolis to Cincinnati, and I've kept all the ESPN the Magazines and Sports Illustrated I have with Piston pictures in them. I WANT that 4th collage hanging on my wall. That'd be awesome. I'm not confident, but that doesn't mean I don't WANT it to happen.

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