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    Every single move the Pacers make from this point Forward should be made with the intent to protect, support, and build around Myles Turner.

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    Let's let the young guys play big minutes, that's all I ask. Please dear god not 30+ minutes of Ellis and Jefferson a night, I'm begging you front office!

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    They just need to cut them

    Save them for the trade deadline as expirings
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    Every single move the Pacers make from this point Forward should be made with the intent to protect, support, and build around Myles Turner.
    While I think Myles will be an important piece moving forward, I don't think he is the type of player you build around.

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    While I think Myles will be an important piece moving forward, I don't think he is the type of player you build around.

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    While I think Myles will be an important piece moving forward, I don't think he is the type of player you build around.
    Maybe. But PG's departure will leave a large vacuum at the top. Might as well see if Myles is up to filling it. And if not, no harm done, give someone else the opportunity in next year's draft.

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    While I think Myles will be an important piece moving forward, I don't think he is the type of player you build around.
    Well, I think he's going to be the franchise player even though it's a bit early for that. This coming year is pivotal for his career. If he takes a large step, we are looking at a perennial all-star who is probably worth building around. But you could be right. He may well plateau leaving us without a legitimate star player. Without question, the coming days and weeks are going to be interesting.
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    Well, I think he's going to be the franchise player even though it's a bit early for that. This coming year is pivotal for his career. If he takes a large step, we are looking at a perennial all-star who is probably worth building around. But you could be right. He may well plateau leaving us without a legitimate star player. Without question, the coming days and weeks are going to be interesting.
    I like him quite a bit as a player, but his book just doesn't have enough pages in it yet to devote structuring the whole team around him.

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    While I think Myles will be an important piece moving forward, I don't think he is the type of player you build around.
    Many of us (myself included) had the same thoughts about PG going into his third season as well.

    I dont expect Myles to be quite that good, but there's a good chance that he's going to get his shot at being the man next year.

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    I'm all in on Myles.

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    I'm all in on Myles.
    Same. I don't think there's a flaw to his game that simply adding strength won't cure. He can do pretty much anything on the court. With that said, he'll def need another player of his caliber for the Pacers to compete. Teams don't "build around" bigs these days and the stats show why, I mean look at the Wolves before Butler, look at the Kings when they had Cousins, look at the Pelicans.

    So yeah, make him your centerpiece. But have two centerpieces, lol.

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    Same. I don't think there's a flaw to his game that simply adding strength won't cure. He can do pretty much anything on the court. With that said, he'll def need another player of his caliber for the Pacers to compete. Teams don't "build around" bigs these days and the stats show why, I mean look at the Wolves before Butler, look at the Kings when they had Cousins, look at the Pelicans.

    So yeah, make him your centerpiece. But have two centerpieces, lol.
    He's got the tools and he's a hard worker. Smart kid. All this screaming about Porkzingers and how amazing he is, Myles is just as good imo.

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    That's the key. Right now we suck. We have to see what we can get for Paul and what kind of Free Agents we can pick up.
    ... and be middle of the road again and start all new again in the same mold when our mediocre at best FA's we signed this summer expire in 3-4 years time? Somehow, I'm not inspired by that strategic course for our team.
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    Many of us (myself included) had the same thoughts about PG going into his third season as well.

    I dont expect Myles to be quite that good, but there's a good chance that he's going to get his shot at being the man next year.
    By his second year, I didn't have any doubt that Paul was going to be better than Granger. He simply is a more natural basketball player and more natural gifts.
    Lance is finally home. Whether he becomes our starting PG or he's 6th man, he's getting big minutes and he's here to stay. #llortontnia

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    I'm all in on Myles if he is a 5. I don't see him developing his post game or his rebounding enough to where he could be a star at the 4 position. Teams would just put a wing on him, which neutralizes his best defensive skill (guarding the rim) and his best offensive skill (outside shooting) while causing him problems on the defensive end of the floor.

    That's the difference I see between Myles and and a player like Kevin Love. Love can punish guys like Lance if teams dare go small against him. On defense, Love isn't good anywhere, on the outside or at the rim, so each present his own challenges. Because of that, Love isn't a perfect fit for either position, while Myles is much more suited to be a 5.

    That's where I think the team should think about building around him. If they want to build an team where they have a 4 that makes up for Myles's rebounding deficiencies, or they simply go all the way and have a wing at the 4 and build a 5 out offense type of team, that's great. They can even have a big that shifts Myles to the 4 in certain lineups. But if they want to have him play the 4, it makes more sense to trade him to a team that's going to get full value out of him and get players back that fit that type of system better.

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    Would Pritch have had Niang speak at the luncheon if he had plans to dump him?
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    Many of us (myself included) had the same thoughts about PG going into his third season as well.
    Some of us are still of that opinion.

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    Myles is awesome. If y'all aren't happy with him send him to Boston.

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    Tomorrow is the deadline to pick up the options on Joe Young, Rakeem Christmas, and Glen Robinson.

    I'd say the PG trade makes Young and Christmas very cuttable. Christmas is waaaaaaay down the depth chart now.

    Glen is safe and we're even going to be looking for another SF.

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    Just pick up all of them. Who cares.

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    Let's hope Sabonis, GRIII, and Turner develop.

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    Let's hope Sabonis, GRIII, and Turner develop.
    Not too fast though.

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    Let's hope Sabonis, GRIII, and Turner develop.
    I think there's a really good chance. I think we will see something of a dark cloud lifted with the diva gone. These guys who have had a taste of the NBA will have the opportunity to seize leading roles.

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    Roster is really unbalanced now. Lots of bigs, lots of guards. GR3 is about the only true wing on the roster. Lance and Dipo will play as wings too I guess, but it's problematic since they don't shoot well.

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    I see old articles about Thad Young wanting to play small forward when he was with the 76ers. I wonder if that's a possibility with us. That would help balance the roster.

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