Hello all, and welcome to the “catch all” portion of the 2017 Draft Previews. Here is some information for you about the next few days of writing you’ll get from me:
In this article, I am going to provide quick blurbs on other possible picks for us at #18. If we end up with any of these players, I’ll provide a full write up Friday or Saturday, but this should at least wet your appetite.
Also in this article, I am going to highlight potential 2nd round picks for Indiana at pick #47. Again, I’ll provide quick blurbs of info today, then a full write up on these guys if anyone of them happen to come to us Thursday night.
On Wednesday June 21st, I’ll post my overall draft big board, based on my film study and based only on what it would be if I were running the Pacers. I think fit is crucially important for most players, so where I’d rank players based on our scheme/roster/needs etc is different than what it would be if I were ranking guys for the Hawks or Knicks or whomever. This will be a Pacer-Centric big board.
On that big board, I will not have 60 players listed, even though there are 60 draft picks. I exclude all players that I haven’t seen extensive tape on, which precludes most of the foreign players from this past season. If we end up picking an international player, I’ll scramble and do my best to eventually break that player down, but I’m not ranking guys I haven’t seen, based on what others tell me or what I read. I also will have players not included that I have eliminated from my thinking due to extensive health red flags, or character concerns. Those guys may be on our real big board or on other big boards throughout the league, but they won’t make mine. So, that will come tomorrow. I’ll have blurbs tomorrow on guys that I consider totally out of our current range in that piece tomorrow. If you want information on someone you are curious about, and it doesn’t appear in this piece, likely I either have him ranked way above our pick, or I have him off my board due to injury or character concerns. Also, obviously if a player appeared in my previous highly detailed full reports, I didn’t include them here.
Overall, I think this draft is really good at the top, yet, in my opinion, there is not any player in this draft who projects to be good enough to be the best player on a championship team. There are however many top shelf, big time starters and key role players to be had, and more than any draft I can remember, there are a ton of super high quality character guys. That entire big board will come tomorrow, with comments on some of the upper echelon guys.
Without further ado, here are the “best of the rest” of the possibilities for Indiana at pick #18, as I see it, in no particular order:
----Tony Bradley: freshman raw big man from UNC. He is raw, but I like his potential quite a bit. I think he has a chance, at worst, to be a cheap backup 5 for us…..but I think he is skilled and good enough that it is POSSIBLE, not for sure, that he could play minutes next to Turner in big lineups eventually. In a very long list of potentially available centers, I rank him very high among that group. I think he will end up having the skills needed to be a successful modern NBA center, and possibly athletic enough to play beside Myles. Finding a perfect fit next to Myles remains a hard task.
----D.J. Wilson: I like Wilson alot, but not for us particularly, even though when you see my big board tomorrow you’ll see I have him ranked pretty aggressively. I think he is really skilled, long, and can shoot and handle it. Over 7’0 wingspan, and I like his frame. He’s really good at everything except rebounding, where he is as soft as charmin. That kills him for us unless you go really big and play him as a “jumbo” 3 man, which I think you can do some of the time but most people don’t. I like the player alot, but he is a pretty bad fit next to Turner unless Turner really changes his game somehow. I think he has alot of Tobias Harris to his game, maybe some LaMar Odom pre-reality TV.
----Ivan Rabb: He isn’t as good as Wilson, but he fits better next to Turner in one specific way: on the glass. Very smart kid, uses both hands in every aspect of the game, which I love: he can shoot, pass, and contest shots with both hands. He is a tremendous, high level rebounder, which is why he fits here in some ways, except he is such a bad defender really everywhere that his defensive fit is questionable here. He is really a 4.5, kind of caught in between. I like him as a high post offensive player in specific systems, because I think he is a good passer. He has alot of Greg Monroe to him. If Myles all of a sudden got quicker and able to guard stretch 4’s, this would make more sense…..but I’m not seeing that. Again, I like the player, but not sure he fits here superwell.
----Caleb Swanigan: Yet another big man possibility at #18. Love the story obviously. He has offensive skills no question, he can shoot from the perimeter, score inside with his strength, and he is a position, below the rim rebounder who is very productive. But I don’t know who he guards, especially if he is on our team. He is a non rim protecting 5 guy, and that is a big demerit in my book. If you play him as a back up 5 who can score for you in limited minutes, that makes more sense to me, and I do think he can play right away. But he isn’t a starter, or even crunch time player, here for us. You also have to worry about his weight and have a plan to get him on a diet and strength program. I’d pass at #18. He isn’t my type of back up center either. He is Jared Sullinger to me.
----Johnathon Motley: Very long, skinny but strong modern NBA 4 man. I think he’d be a good fit with Turner as long as we develop him correctly. He needs NBA range, which he doesn’t have now but I think he can get it. I love his length. I think he can switch on smaller guys, which Swanigan and Rabb can’t do. Plus he is older and ready to play. Not really high upside here, but at some point we have to find a 4 man who can play with Myles, rebound well, and yet guard small ball 4 guys. Motley isn’t a great player, especially on offense, and in the Baylor zone it’s hard to tell how well his defense will translate either. It seems like he should’ve been more productive than he was, but I still think he plays in the league a long time. He should be in consideration for Indiana, either at #18 or in an extra pick scenario between 20-30.
----Kyle Kuzma: Getting some late publicity, but as far as we know didn’t work out with us. He LOOKS like a really good pick when you see him warm up. Prototypical NBA 3 or small 4 man body, long and lean. Aggravating player, if you take him it’s totally on potential. Played for an NBA guy at Utah. His shot looks really good some of the time, but he doesn’t consistently make them…..and that’s kind of important. He can face up, he is long, he runs the floor, and sometimes he looks damn good….just not all the time. I wanted to like him….but I don’t really. Lots of sizzle, not much steak yet. But I can see why someone will pick him, fix his shot, add some weight, and all of a sudden it all comes together and you have a steal. Pretty high potential to bust though as I see it. He looks like Jared Jeffries to me. Might be worth a shot around pick 31-40 if you obtain an extra pick though somehow, he is kind of a “scratch off ticket” player. Might make it to 47 anyway.
----Zach Collins: Yes, I have Collins ranked lower than most, and I am including him here even though he will likely be gone by #18 anyway. He is foul prone, but rebounds hard and has some skill. I can even see him developing into an eventual starting center, maybe even a top 10 or 15 one someday far in the future. But he didn’t start in college, and he didn’t even start in high school. How can he be a lottery guy based on that? Even if he does pan out, I still think Turner is probably better, and you can’t play them together I don’t think, so you’d be drafting a back up center only despite the hype. Of course, he is used to that I guess. Like the player well enough, but I think he is a bad fit.
----Justin Patton: Big center with some skill, pretty long way off I think, but he will eventually be pretty good I think, or at least potentially he could be. Kind of an old fashioned big, still pretty raw. Again, bigs are becoming very plentiful even though the game is downsizing, and I don’t value them as highly as most. No way he and Turner could play together.
---- Jarrett Allen: yet another big, slow center. I realize the hype, and maybe he will end up being good someday. But every time I watched him, he got his *** kicked. Long way away, and the game is kind of passing him by. I don’t see it, but somebody will I am sure. Not a real modern day NBA center in my judgment.
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Ok, here are potential targets for pick #47. Full reviews will come this weekend on whomever we pick, whether I have included them or not, as long as it is someone I have video on.
Jordan Bell: Defensive player of year in Pac 12, had some games where he absolutely looked great, like the Kansas game in the elite 8. He plays hard. Hangs in the air somehow longer that most guys. Tries to dunk everything. He can switch onto smaller guys in ball screens. Thirsty rebounder, chases everything, but absolutely never blocks out….he just runs for the ball. Good rim runner, big catch radius. As a ballscreener he can short roll and be a 4 on 3 playmaker if they double the ball. Absolutely zero back to the basket game. Jump shot is pitiful, elbow sticks way out, misses shots left and right. Not very long relatively speaking, struggles against other guys his size or bigger. He absolutely choked in the last minute vs UNC in the title game, as his failure to blockout on a free throw 2 different times let North Carolina hang on. I’d like him at 47 despite his limitations...he has some Bobby Portis to his game, and Portis went significantly higher.
Monte Morris: bigger point guard, I don’t think he can play in the league but I am in the minority. Pass first guy with size, just not quick or athletic enough for me.
Davon Reed: Now we are talking! Pacers should move up to get him. I have him rated higher than most. Indiana likes him too, as they brought him in twice. High quality 3/D prospect, very long arms, shoots it simply and well. Very smart IQ player, even if he is limited skill wise. Tough kid. Very well coached by Jim Larranaga at Miami. Fear the Celtics getting him first, as Larranaga’s son Jay is Brad Stevens top assistant in Boston. Reed can guard positions 2-4 I think in switches, and make 38%-42% of his threes. Already has shown NBA distance. 7’0 wingspan. I think is he is a rotation wing who plays 10 years in the league. I’d move up to get him, buy a pick if need be.
Jawun Evans: small point guard who specializes in the ballscreen game. Played a pick/roll heavy offense at Oklahoma State under Coach Brad Underwood, who now is at Illinois. Fits current NBA offensive schemes. Very small and light though, which I have an admitted scouting bias against. I don’t see who he guards among NBA starters, so you better have a plan to hide him. He won’t get to 47, and might go in round 1. I’d take him if he fell to me I guess, but he is a backup point guard all day, no starter potential to me. Not my kind of point guard.
Nigel Williams-Goss: He’d be ok as your 15th guy, 3rd point guard type. Not really explosive enough to play, but high character guy. He’ll make a team I think.
Sindarius Thornwell: Good but not great at anything….needs to be a 3/D guy, but not sure he is good enough. Being older player helped him overachieve. I think he is a 14th guy/G league type maybe ends up in Europe making money.
Dwayne Bacon: Just imagine the T-shirts and meme’s the marketing people could have if we take Bacon in round 2! I think Bacon can play. I love his swagger, even though he doesn’t have the game to match it yet. He’ll compete, and he has a scorer’s mentality. I wouldn’t mind taking him at 47, sticking him in the G league, and letting him develop for a couple of years. The 2 guard position is weak in general in the league, maybe he could develop into a cheap solution.
Dillon Brooks: Pac 12 star at Oregon, put up big numbers for a winning team. I don’t like his game translating to the league though, couldn’t really guard anyone, relied on isolations to score, which he won’t get now. Tough minded kid though, plays with fire. Probably a better overseas prospect than in the NBA though.
Sterling Brown: Definitely draftable, 3/D type out of SMU. Just a solid guy all the way around. Has strength and quickness to play in the league, but not super outstanding at anything. I like Devon Reed better, but they are cut from the same cloth.
Taylor Dorsey: A smallish 2 guard who is an absolute assassin as a catch and shoot 3 point specialist. I think his stroke is elite from deep, and I think that ability gets him drafted somewhere around our pick if not sooner. He might be an Eddie House type as a shooter, I compared him to Dell Curry or Craig Hodges. Can’t really do anything super well besides shoot from deep, but that is a heck of a skill. I like him, and I think that position in the league is weak anyway….I’d strongly consider him, might even move up slightly or buy a pick to get him.
Josh Hart: He is a high character guy who can be your 5th wing...a good guy to have in your locker room or team plane. I don’t think he can contribute much, but maybe I am wrong. Big numbers on a championship team, really good college career.
Frank Mason: Same as Hart, except a small point guard. I think he is a 3rd point guard, 15th man type. I wouldn’t mind having him though, as he is a big time clutch guy who played in big games. Big 12 player of the year, just small and older.
Wesley Iwundu: He needs to be a 3/D guy, but I don’t think he is talented enough. Played well in motion offense at Kansas State, smart kid, just don’t think he sticks.
Tyler Lydon: Others like him more than me, but he will stick in the league as a shooter, stretch big type. Steve Novak played forever, so did Brian Scalabrini, so Lydon can I guess. Not my type of guy, but he may even go in round 1, who knows? I thought Syracuse zone hid his weaknesses, but other evaluators might think it limited what he could have shown them. Workouts are big for Lydon.
James Blackmon: He can’t play. Great shooter who looks good in workouts I bet though. Can’t guard his own shadow, small for a 2 guard. Won’t make the league.
Thomas Bryant: Stretch 5 with some skill. Plays hard, but not very smart. Very unathletic and clumsy, but maybe he grows out of it. High enthusiasm player, would look good waving a towel on the end of someone’s bench. A very very very bad college defender, NBA teams will run him off the floor if he plays at all. He will get drafted I think and play in G League, and see if he can mature into something.
Ok, there you have it. Big board comes tomorrow, with blurbs on the very best players in the draft and where I have everyone ranked, based on PACERS needs and current situation. Fasten your seat belts…..then next few days might get a little bumpy.
Tbird
In this article, I am going to provide quick blurbs on other possible picks for us at #18. If we end up with any of these players, I’ll provide a full write up Friday or Saturday, but this should at least wet your appetite.
Also in this article, I am going to highlight potential 2nd round picks for Indiana at pick #47. Again, I’ll provide quick blurbs of info today, then a full write up on these guys if anyone of them happen to come to us Thursday night.
On Wednesday June 21st, I’ll post my overall draft big board, based on my film study and based only on what it would be if I were running the Pacers. I think fit is crucially important for most players, so where I’d rank players based on our scheme/roster/needs etc is different than what it would be if I were ranking guys for the Hawks or Knicks or whomever. This will be a Pacer-Centric big board.
On that big board, I will not have 60 players listed, even though there are 60 draft picks. I exclude all players that I haven’t seen extensive tape on, which precludes most of the foreign players from this past season. If we end up picking an international player, I’ll scramble and do my best to eventually break that player down, but I’m not ranking guys I haven’t seen, based on what others tell me or what I read. I also will have players not included that I have eliminated from my thinking due to extensive health red flags, or character concerns. Those guys may be on our real big board or on other big boards throughout the league, but they won’t make mine. So, that will come tomorrow. I’ll have blurbs tomorrow on guys that I consider totally out of our current range in that piece tomorrow. If you want information on someone you are curious about, and it doesn’t appear in this piece, likely I either have him ranked way above our pick, or I have him off my board due to injury or character concerns. Also, obviously if a player appeared in my previous highly detailed full reports, I didn’t include them here.
Overall, I think this draft is really good at the top, yet, in my opinion, there is not any player in this draft who projects to be good enough to be the best player on a championship team. There are however many top shelf, big time starters and key role players to be had, and more than any draft I can remember, there are a ton of super high quality character guys. That entire big board will come tomorrow, with comments on some of the upper echelon guys.
Without further ado, here are the “best of the rest” of the possibilities for Indiana at pick #18, as I see it, in no particular order:
----Tony Bradley: freshman raw big man from UNC. He is raw, but I like his potential quite a bit. I think he has a chance, at worst, to be a cheap backup 5 for us…..but I think he is skilled and good enough that it is POSSIBLE, not for sure, that he could play minutes next to Turner in big lineups eventually. In a very long list of potentially available centers, I rank him very high among that group. I think he will end up having the skills needed to be a successful modern NBA center, and possibly athletic enough to play beside Myles. Finding a perfect fit next to Myles remains a hard task.
----D.J. Wilson: I like Wilson alot, but not for us particularly, even though when you see my big board tomorrow you’ll see I have him ranked pretty aggressively. I think he is really skilled, long, and can shoot and handle it. Over 7’0 wingspan, and I like his frame. He’s really good at everything except rebounding, where he is as soft as charmin. That kills him for us unless you go really big and play him as a “jumbo” 3 man, which I think you can do some of the time but most people don’t. I like the player alot, but he is a pretty bad fit next to Turner unless Turner really changes his game somehow. I think he has alot of Tobias Harris to his game, maybe some LaMar Odom pre-reality TV.
----Ivan Rabb: He isn’t as good as Wilson, but he fits better next to Turner in one specific way: on the glass. Very smart kid, uses both hands in every aspect of the game, which I love: he can shoot, pass, and contest shots with both hands. He is a tremendous, high level rebounder, which is why he fits here in some ways, except he is such a bad defender really everywhere that his defensive fit is questionable here. He is really a 4.5, kind of caught in between. I like him as a high post offensive player in specific systems, because I think he is a good passer. He has alot of Greg Monroe to him. If Myles all of a sudden got quicker and able to guard stretch 4’s, this would make more sense…..but I’m not seeing that. Again, I like the player, but not sure he fits here superwell.
----Caleb Swanigan: Yet another big man possibility at #18. Love the story obviously. He has offensive skills no question, he can shoot from the perimeter, score inside with his strength, and he is a position, below the rim rebounder who is very productive. But I don’t know who he guards, especially if he is on our team. He is a non rim protecting 5 guy, and that is a big demerit in my book. If you play him as a back up 5 who can score for you in limited minutes, that makes more sense to me, and I do think he can play right away. But he isn’t a starter, or even crunch time player, here for us. You also have to worry about his weight and have a plan to get him on a diet and strength program. I’d pass at #18. He isn’t my type of back up center either. He is Jared Sullinger to me.
----Johnathon Motley: Very long, skinny but strong modern NBA 4 man. I think he’d be a good fit with Turner as long as we develop him correctly. He needs NBA range, which he doesn’t have now but I think he can get it. I love his length. I think he can switch on smaller guys, which Swanigan and Rabb can’t do. Plus he is older and ready to play. Not really high upside here, but at some point we have to find a 4 man who can play with Myles, rebound well, and yet guard small ball 4 guys. Motley isn’t a great player, especially on offense, and in the Baylor zone it’s hard to tell how well his defense will translate either. It seems like he should’ve been more productive than he was, but I still think he plays in the league a long time. He should be in consideration for Indiana, either at #18 or in an extra pick scenario between 20-30.
----Kyle Kuzma: Getting some late publicity, but as far as we know didn’t work out with us. He LOOKS like a really good pick when you see him warm up. Prototypical NBA 3 or small 4 man body, long and lean. Aggravating player, if you take him it’s totally on potential. Played for an NBA guy at Utah. His shot looks really good some of the time, but he doesn’t consistently make them…..and that’s kind of important. He can face up, he is long, he runs the floor, and sometimes he looks damn good….just not all the time. I wanted to like him….but I don’t really. Lots of sizzle, not much steak yet. But I can see why someone will pick him, fix his shot, add some weight, and all of a sudden it all comes together and you have a steal. Pretty high potential to bust though as I see it. He looks like Jared Jeffries to me. Might be worth a shot around pick 31-40 if you obtain an extra pick though somehow, he is kind of a “scratch off ticket” player. Might make it to 47 anyway.
----Zach Collins: Yes, I have Collins ranked lower than most, and I am including him here even though he will likely be gone by #18 anyway. He is foul prone, but rebounds hard and has some skill. I can even see him developing into an eventual starting center, maybe even a top 10 or 15 one someday far in the future. But he didn’t start in college, and he didn’t even start in high school. How can he be a lottery guy based on that? Even if he does pan out, I still think Turner is probably better, and you can’t play them together I don’t think, so you’d be drafting a back up center only despite the hype. Of course, he is used to that I guess. Like the player well enough, but I think he is a bad fit.
----Justin Patton: Big center with some skill, pretty long way off I think, but he will eventually be pretty good I think, or at least potentially he could be. Kind of an old fashioned big, still pretty raw. Again, bigs are becoming very plentiful even though the game is downsizing, and I don’t value them as highly as most. No way he and Turner could play together.
---- Jarrett Allen: yet another big, slow center. I realize the hype, and maybe he will end up being good someday. But every time I watched him, he got his *** kicked. Long way away, and the game is kind of passing him by. I don’t see it, but somebody will I am sure. Not a real modern day NBA center in my judgment.
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Ok, here are potential targets for pick #47. Full reviews will come this weekend on whomever we pick, whether I have included them or not, as long as it is someone I have video on.
Jordan Bell: Defensive player of year in Pac 12, had some games where he absolutely looked great, like the Kansas game in the elite 8. He plays hard. Hangs in the air somehow longer that most guys. Tries to dunk everything. He can switch onto smaller guys in ball screens. Thirsty rebounder, chases everything, but absolutely never blocks out….he just runs for the ball. Good rim runner, big catch radius. As a ballscreener he can short roll and be a 4 on 3 playmaker if they double the ball. Absolutely zero back to the basket game. Jump shot is pitiful, elbow sticks way out, misses shots left and right. Not very long relatively speaking, struggles against other guys his size or bigger. He absolutely choked in the last minute vs UNC in the title game, as his failure to blockout on a free throw 2 different times let North Carolina hang on. I’d like him at 47 despite his limitations...he has some Bobby Portis to his game, and Portis went significantly higher.
Monte Morris: bigger point guard, I don’t think he can play in the league but I am in the minority. Pass first guy with size, just not quick or athletic enough for me.
Davon Reed: Now we are talking! Pacers should move up to get him. I have him rated higher than most. Indiana likes him too, as they brought him in twice. High quality 3/D prospect, very long arms, shoots it simply and well. Very smart IQ player, even if he is limited skill wise. Tough kid. Very well coached by Jim Larranaga at Miami. Fear the Celtics getting him first, as Larranaga’s son Jay is Brad Stevens top assistant in Boston. Reed can guard positions 2-4 I think in switches, and make 38%-42% of his threes. Already has shown NBA distance. 7’0 wingspan. I think is he is a rotation wing who plays 10 years in the league. I’d move up to get him, buy a pick if need be.
Jawun Evans: small point guard who specializes in the ballscreen game. Played a pick/roll heavy offense at Oklahoma State under Coach Brad Underwood, who now is at Illinois. Fits current NBA offensive schemes. Very small and light though, which I have an admitted scouting bias against. I don’t see who he guards among NBA starters, so you better have a plan to hide him. He won’t get to 47, and might go in round 1. I’d take him if he fell to me I guess, but he is a backup point guard all day, no starter potential to me. Not my kind of point guard.
Nigel Williams-Goss: He’d be ok as your 15th guy, 3rd point guard type. Not really explosive enough to play, but high character guy. He’ll make a team I think.
Sindarius Thornwell: Good but not great at anything….needs to be a 3/D guy, but not sure he is good enough. Being older player helped him overachieve. I think he is a 14th guy/G league type maybe ends up in Europe making money.
Dwayne Bacon: Just imagine the T-shirts and meme’s the marketing people could have if we take Bacon in round 2! I think Bacon can play. I love his swagger, even though he doesn’t have the game to match it yet. He’ll compete, and he has a scorer’s mentality. I wouldn’t mind taking him at 47, sticking him in the G league, and letting him develop for a couple of years. The 2 guard position is weak in general in the league, maybe he could develop into a cheap solution.
Dillon Brooks: Pac 12 star at Oregon, put up big numbers for a winning team. I don’t like his game translating to the league though, couldn’t really guard anyone, relied on isolations to score, which he won’t get now. Tough minded kid though, plays with fire. Probably a better overseas prospect than in the NBA though.
Sterling Brown: Definitely draftable, 3/D type out of SMU. Just a solid guy all the way around. Has strength and quickness to play in the league, but not super outstanding at anything. I like Devon Reed better, but they are cut from the same cloth.
Taylor Dorsey: A smallish 2 guard who is an absolute assassin as a catch and shoot 3 point specialist. I think his stroke is elite from deep, and I think that ability gets him drafted somewhere around our pick if not sooner. He might be an Eddie House type as a shooter, I compared him to Dell Curry or Craig Hodges. Can’t really do anything super well besides shoot from deep, but that is a heck of a skill. I like him, and I think that position in the league is weak anyway….I’d strongly consider him, might even move up slightly or buy a pick to get him.
Josh Hart: He is a high character guy who can be your 5th wing...a good guy to have in your locker room or team plane. I don’t think he can contribute much, but maybe I am wrong. Big numbers on a championship team, really good college career.
Frank Mason: Same as Hart, except a small point guard. I think he is a 3rd point guard, 15th man type. I wouldn’t mind having him though, as he is a big time clutch guy who played in big games. Big 12 player of the year, just small and older.
Wesley Iwundu: He needs to be a 3/D guy, but I don’t think he is talented enough. Played well in motion offense at Kansas State, smart kid, just don’t think he sticks.
Tyler Lydon: Others like him more than me, but he will stick in the league as a shooter, stretch big type. Steve Novak played forever, so did Brian Scalabrini, so Lydon can I guess. Not my type of guy, but he may even go in round 1, who knows? I thought Syracuse zone hid his weaknesses, but other evaluators might think it limited what he could have shown them. Workouts are big for Lydon.
James Blackmon: He can’t play. Great shooter who looks good in workouts I bet though. Can’t guard his own shadow, small for a 2 guard. Won’t make the league.
Thomas Bryant: Stretch 5 with some skill. Plays hard, but not very smart. Very unathletic and clumsy, but maybe he grows out of it. High enthusiasm player, would look good waving a towel on the end of someone’s bench. A very very very bad college defender, NBA teams will run him off the floor if he plays at all. He will get drafted I think and play in G League, and see if he can mature into something.
Ok, there you have it. Big board comes tomorrow, with blurbs on the very best players in the draft and where I have everyone ranked, based on PACERS needs and current situation. Fasten your seat belts…..then next few days might get a little bumpy.
Tbird
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