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    I actually love this idea. I like Lance more as a point forward than an actual PG. I do worry that he'll get into foul trouble trying to guard quick point guards so matching him up against a wing could work out well.
    Lance can always be the PG offensively and guard a wing defensively. He doesn't have to guard a quick PG to have the ball in his hands on the other end.
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    You know the more I think about it, the more I'm okay with Lance playing at the 3 a bunch. As Ace said, Collison can spot up off the ball, and Lance has the size to defend pretty much any wing reasonably well. I like it a lot better than him running the point full time.

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    Collison shoots over 40% from 3. So yeah he could

    Also, why couldnt Lance rebound at the 3 spot in the same manner youre hoping he does at the point?

    What you said literally made no sense lol
    Lol I should've also said he adds size to the whole lineup. Your pg usually isn't 6'5. Collison isn't going over anybody to grab a rebound or box out

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    Much better defender. Also is much bigger and more physical.

    His game is more predicated on getting to the rim
    Exactly why I don't want him. I do want a guy that can hit shots more consistently.

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    DC, Dipo, Lance, Myles and who? Thad? That's a terrible rebounding group.
    Sabonis in place of Thad probably helps.

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    Lance can always be the PG offensively and guard a wing defensively. He doesn't have to guard a quick PG to have the ball in his hands on the other end.
    Probably how it's going to work out, yeah. He did that with Teague sometimes and Collison fits with that too.

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    They need a local 'On the road' series. Something like GHill and DeJuan Blair, IIRC, did in San Antonio. And rename the Mountain Dew section.

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    Sabonis in place of Thad probably helps.
    Why? What evidence is there to suggest he is a better rebounder?
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    Why? What evidence is there to suggest he is a better rebounder?
    He isn't.



    But Dipo and Lance are above average rebounders for their position.

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    Why? What evidence is there to suggest he is a better rebounder?
    Coming out of college he was one of the best rebounders in the country. Last year in OKC, he spent a lot of his time on the perimeter playing alongside Westbrook and Adams. Not a good recipe for padding rebound stats. It remains to be seen how he good a rebounder he can be at this level, but he'll probably be better than Thad.

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    For the record, I'm for keeping Thad. Versatile, good shooter, had some nice stints defending Bron in the playoffs.
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    For the record, I'm for keeping Thad. Versatile, good shooter, had some nice stints defending Bron in the playoffs.
    I would keep Thad unless we trade him for an equally talented small forward. We are weaker in that position than power forward. He may also be a good small forward with a position change.

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    I keep seeing people say Thad is a good shooter. I really don't think that is the case. I think he is an efficient scorer, but his actual shooting is very "meh".

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    I keep seeing people say Thad is a good shooter. I really don't think that is the case. I think he is an efficient scorer, but his actual shooting is very "meh".
    That and this idea that he can play SF in today's league

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    I'm fine with keeping Thad, but I think he's more valuable to a playoff team than us in a rebuild.

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    Coming out of college he was one of the best rebounders in the country. Last year in OKC, he spent a lot of his time on the perimeter playing alongside Westbrook and Adams. Not a good recipe for padding rebound stats. It remains to be seen how he good a rebounder he can be at this level, but he'll probably be better than Thad.
    This is a really excellent point. Thad is a decent rebounder for a guy with SF size. Sabonis didn't have great numbers last year, but he is a lot bigger and he's pretty mobile and fairly physical for a guy who just turned 21. I expect him to shoot the 3 but he will be relied upon to hit the glass. It wiil be interesting how he stacks up.
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    By now it is clear that Lance will not be our starting Point Guard.

    In my opinion, Lance's best position is coming off the bench as the 6th man and playing 25-30 minutes per game but I think that will be tough to do with the current Pacers roster. So how many minutes will Lance get? In my opinion, it looks like he could get as little as 13 or as much as 24...at least early in the season until guys either play themselves out of minutes, or if Lance plays himself into minutes or a trade is made.

    I think Lance will be the back up SG and pick up another 5-6 minutes at SF. I think that will wind up being 18-22 minutes per game.

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    Probably how it's going to work out, yeah. He did that with Teague sometimes and Collison fits with that too.
    He did that in our ECF runs as well. It just makes sense.
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    I enjoy Lance, and if we're trading Paul and letting Teague walk, then I'm all for this move.

    It'll make the losing entertaining for a season before we opt out of the team option after next year and move on.

    That's the spirit. I would prefer winning and that Lance plays well and so does the team.
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    Ultimately Lance is at his best with the ball in his hands and Bird has always billed Lance as a point guard. Bird despite his shortcomings was good at evaluating talent.
    I suspect Lance will be playing more and more point as the season progresses. I really like the Vic and Lance combination.
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    That's the spirit. I would prefer winning and that Lance plays well and so does the team.
    Well yeah, I prefer winning and all - but if Lance is the starting point guard, I just don't see that as a "winning team." If he's the sixth man that happens to play a good amount of point, or just handles point duties while technically playing SG, then I think you can field a winning team and be ok. Either way, I'm going to enjoy his energy and antics and plain joy he brings to the game. My view was not so much hoping he'd be the starter so we would lose, but if we're going to lose, I'm ok with him starting because it'll be fun.

    As the roster is now, I think he'll fill that sixth man role and do it quite well with some of the talent around him.
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    Well yeah, I prefer winning and all - but if Lance is the starting point guard, I just don't see that as a "winning team." If he's the sixth man that happens to play a good amount of point, or just handles point duties while technically playing SG, then I think you can field a winning team and be ok. Either way, I'm going to enjoy his energy and antics and plain joy he brings to the game. My view was not so much hoping he'd be the starter so we would lose, but if we're going to lose, I'm ok with him starting because it'll be fun.

    As the roster is now, I think he'll fill that sixth man role and do it quite well with some of the talent around him.
    I seriously can't believe how many people are selling Lance short as a 6th man this year. He was clearly the leader in the playoffs in the closest sweep in history against the title contender. George was the best player, but he seemed to be playing hero ball at times while Lance likes to set other people up for an easy look and is damn near elite at it. Best since Mark Jackson at getting guys good looks by far. That is so undervalued. He is surrounded by young talent and good veteran teammates. I think if anything the culture of this team has changed dramatically.

    I think Oladipo could fit the George Hill role perfectly and maybe even better, allowing Lance to stay at the SG. If that's not the case, Lance will be fine at SF because of his length. Just don't try to ever make him guard Love like that again. That was ridiculous, but knowing Lance I'm sure that has motivated him this off season to get better.

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    Best since Mark Jackson at getting guys good looks by far.

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    And I do not think that Vic and Lance are a good combo. Defensively yes, but there is not much spacing with them in there together. We all saw what Teague and Monta did last year. We can deal with one sub 35% from 3 but not two. DC and hopefully Myles can stretch the floor for them to slash, but that only goes so far.

    Lance will get minutes. I think Lance has a shot to be a key player is a sub-par year. Interesting fact, the first Pacer to contact Oladipo was Lance. I think his energy in the locker room and on the court is going to help our team be interesting.

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