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    If they won't give up any of their prize young small forwards, I'd still like to hold out for at least a mid-level young prospect like Terry Rozier.

    If Crowder/Bradley/Rozier/LAL-Sac Pick/Memphis Pick is the offer that's a pretty good haul, that Laker/Sac pick should be a high pick. I don't know if we can do much better.


    Terry Rozier is average at best.

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    Any chance we can get Bledsoe and Jackson?
    Josh Jackson?

    I wish the Celtics drafted him and traded him to us.

    Apparently he did not work out with the Celtics because he assumed he would not get enough playing time. So the Celtics decided the pass on him...

    Sucks for us because thats the player I wanted to get for PG.

    Hope Phoenix can come in somehow but I doubt it.

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    Yeah I'm not entirely sure what the Celtics plan to do with Tatum and Jaylen Brown if they got PG and Hayward...you can't play and develop all those guys and expect the 2 younger guys to become superstars themselves. Maybe they'll try and make Tatum a 4 someday but that won't be right off the bat.
    Shame they have Tatum over Josh Jackson.

    Jackson is the far elite prospect I wanted us to trade for.

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    Boston is probably going to let Olynyk go because they don't have enough space for PG/Hayward

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    No offense, but if a 264-page thread isn't already a mega-discussion thread, I don't know what is.

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    Why can't they add Olynyk to deal? I would love that guy.

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    Shame they have Tatum over Josh Jackson.

    Jackson is the far elite prospect I wanted us to trade for.
    Didn't he cancel his meeting with the Celtics?

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    Who's Ainge bidding against? What I mean is, is the next best deal even close to this one? I just hope he's not stringing them along and then come in at a reduced offer because even then he'd still have the best offer. Not trying to be pessimistic here but not sure if we've seen anything close to this offer.
    My feeling is that Pritchard has a standing offer from the Cavs for Kevin Love. I'm not sure that anyone has reported that, but that's the sense I get from KP's careful wording.

    The problem of course is that the Pacers don't want Love, they want picks and young players. So they're either looking for a third team to complete the Cavs deal, or to deal directly with the Celtics, who have picks and young players aplenty. IMO Lakers should't be ruled out either, though it's hard to see them topping the Celtics' offer unless Pritchard really likes Ingram.

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    Celtics appear to be the best trade partner if we can wait. Lakers appear out of it unless Ingram ends up on the table.

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    I don't know about want but yes I would prefer to have him out of our conference rather than help a conference rival.

    Cleveland would dump Love on us I don't want him.

    Boston might be a better option but it hinges on if PG is willing to stay there.

    He may not.
    Indiana is not keeping Love.


    Remember when we could have gotten 1-2 solid players and a possible Top 3 draft pick in the 2017 NBA Draft by trading away Paul George?

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    We had Kawhi but the Pacers traded him away.
    The Pacers never had KL. They traded the draft pick, not the player.

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    I have two thoughts.

    I would like to roll Crowder and Jefferson into Biyombo.

    I would rather have Brown or better yet Tatum. Does Boston really need 5 SF's?

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    Why can't they add Olynyk to deal? I would love that guy.

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    because he's garbage

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    because he's garbage
    I feel bad for whomever overpays to get him.

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    Who's Ainge bidding against? What I mean is, is the next best deal even close to this one? I just hope he's not stringing them along and then come in at a reduced offer because even then he'd still have the best offer. Not trying to be pessimistic here but not sure if we've seen anything close to this offer.
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    Lakers, Cavs, Denver.

    My thinking is the deal is on hold because of the picks protections, like I said before Celtics have to send Bradley/Crowder/Zeller to Pacers because they don't have the cap space.

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    I don't know what the Celtics cap situation is next season, but if they don't make the trade this year there is probably a good possibility they miss out on Paul George altogether. We can always wait it out, let Paul walk next summer, and use the cap space instead of taking some low ball crap deal. The only incentive the Pacers have to make a trade is to move on from Paul earlier rather than later.

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    The Pacers never had KL. They traded the draft pick, not the player.
    trade was agreed to, then Kawhi fell, Pacers were like "yeah but this dude fell, man, really hate to do it now, we could pair him with Danny and PG and let it work itself out, he's gonna be great, but man, George Hill..." that's the Pacers story and they're stickin too it

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    I'm not thrilled with the proposed Boston deal. Gonna have to do better than 2 role players and picks if PG is agreeing to sign long term. I know people here go crazy for old school, defensive players and I do like Bradley and to a lesser extent Crowder, but we need building blocks/cornerstone potential type of players, as opposed to complementary pieces like those two. In other words, Jaylen Brown, pick and one of Crowder/Bradley or hang up. These teams (BOS/LAL) trying to have their cake (a SF) and eat it too (keeping their developmental SF) are kind of annoying tbh.
    It somewhat depends on the picks to me. I can't anything giving specifics as to what Boston would be willing to give up for an extended Paul George.
    Have you seen something?
    Larry Bird qouted March 25th. 2015:

    Bird: I wanted to keep our group together because in the summer, if David and Roy opt out, we're back to zero, really. We don't have that much, so you leave your options open. If we did make a trade, I didn't want to take on a lot of contracts -- because that's what usually happens. Plus, I liked my guys. They're playing well. If we keep the core together and Paul comes back healthy, we'll be right back to where we were.

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    Has anyone read specifically what picks Boston would be offering to an extended Paul George?
    Larry Bird qouted March 25th. 2015:

    Bird: I wanted to keep our group together because in the summer, if David and Roy opt out, we're back to zero, really. We don't have that much, so you leave your options open. If we did make a trade, I didn't want to take on a lot of contracts -- because that's what usually happens. Plus, I liked my guys. They're playing well. If we keep the core together and Paul comes back healthy, we'll be right back to where we were.

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    because he's garbage
    Nah he is not.
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    I don't know what the Celtics cap situation is next season, but if they don't make the trade this year there is probably a good possibility they miss out on Paul George altogether. We can always wait it out, let Paul walk next summer, and use the cap space instead of taking some low ball crap deal. The only incentive the Pacers have to make a trade is to move on from Paul earlier rather than later.
    IMHO....the reason why the Lakers and Celtics want to TRADE FOR a MAX Level Player ( like PG13 ) NOW is so that they can retain his Bird rights and re-sign them without using any of their Salary Cap.

    Both Teams have SPECIFICALLY targeted PG13 for a trade is because he is the only Player that has said that he will not sign an extension with the Pacers.

    Melo is the only other Player that I think that either team can fall back on if they lose out on PG13.

    The Bird Rights are the key difference when it comes to pursuing MAX Level Players. There's a difference between signing 2 MAX Players as UFAs and re-signing their FA via their Bird rights and signing a MAX Player via FA.
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    IMHO....the reason why the Lakers and Celtics want to TRADE FOR a MAX Level Player ( like PG13 ) NOW is so that they can retain his Bird rights and re-sign them without using any of their Salary Cap.

    Both Teams have SPECIFICALLY targeted PG13 for a trade is because he is the only Player that has said that he will not sign an extension with the Pacers.

    Melo is the only other Player that I think that either team can fall back on if they lose out on PG13.

    The Bird Rights are the key difference when it comes to pursuing MAX Level Players. There's a difference between signing 2 MAX Players as UFAs and re-signing their FA via their Bird rights and signing a MAX Player via FA.
    I just read that Melo is attempting to get a buyout.


    Remember when we could have gotten 1-2 solid players and a possible Top 3 draft pick in the 2017 NBA Draft by trading away Paul George?

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    the Pacers even loved Kawhi so much that they threw in extra assets just to get rid of him

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    Nah he is not.
    your takes are forever tied to Monta

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    I don't know what the Celtics cap situation is next season, but if they don't make the trade this year there is probably a good possibility they miss out on Paul George altogether. We can always wait it out, let Paul walk next summer, and use the cap space instead of taking some low ball crap deal. The only incentive the Pacers have to make a trade is to move on from Paul earlier rather than later.
    Given the video that I saw regarding free agent signing by Indiana, cap space is pretty worthless to Indiana.


    Remember when we could have gotten 1-2 solid players and a possible Top 3 draft pick in the 2017 NBA Draft by trading away Paul George?

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    Given the video that I saw regarding free agent signing by Indiana, cap space is pretty worthless to Indiana.
    right now, maybe, unless they wanna overpay the **** outta somebody. but a year or two down the line when the cap jump starts to normalize and everyone is in the thick of it with current CBA deals it'll be same as it ever was, just with way bigger salaries.

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