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    Why are they still testing for cocaine? It's not a performance enhancer unless you're in a 70's rock and roll band...
    How do you know Monta Ellis isn't trying to revive his career as the lead singer for Foghat?


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    So does this help or hurt the Pacers?
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    We even know it was weed? Maybe he was taking estrogen pills to get his wife pregnant

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    Rules are rules and he's supposed to be a professional. Can we focus on the actual issue here? He makes $11mil/year. He has also been warned twice.


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    We even know it was weed? Maybe he was taking estrogen pills to get his wife pregnant

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    PED suspensions are 10 or 20 games.


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    PED suspensions are 10 or 20 games.


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    Maybe he was taking speed, to get his wife pregnant

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    Maybe he was taking speed, to get his wife pregnant

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    Do you really think that Pritchard would have responded the way that he did if that were the case?


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    Do you really think that Prichard would have responded the way that he did if that were the case?


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    Maybe Pritchard really hates babies
    Then no drafting teenagers, I guess.


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    Rules are rules and he's supposed to be a professional. Can we focus on the actual issue here? He makes $11mil/year. He has also been warned twice.


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    Why are they still testing for cocaine? It's not a performance enhancer unless you're in a 70's rock and roll band...
    Good point....cocaine and marijuana are very comparable...

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    Good point....cocaine and marijuana are very comparable...
    Is cocaine a performance enhancer? Okay then.

    It was a dumb thing for kravitz to say. There are plenty of banned drugs that aren't performance enhancers.

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    Is cocaine a performance enhancer? Okay then.

    It was a dumb thing for kravitz to say. There are plenty of banned drugs that aren't performance enhancers.
    I think his point was it's a medical drug that isn't performance enhancing. Im pretty sure even if someone in the league is taking it for medicine they get suspended 5 games. And that is pretty stupid. Overall you only have so many characters in a tweet but I think he's just pointing out the obvious that rules behind marijuana in general in 2017 are pointless. What's the good behind banning marijuana for NBA players? There is some obvious good in banning cocaine.

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    No one in the NBA is taking marijuana for medical reasons. Come on.

    The NBA has made it really easy to keep your weed habit and not get into trouble. If you can't accomplish that then you have a problem that needs to be addressed.

    You can debate the legality of marajuana all you want but the NBA is a private entity and they are well within their rights to limit use as they see fit like any other employer.

    You can't knowingly break company rules and then whine after the fact that you think it's a stupid rule. That's just a lame excuse for being irresponsible.
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    No one in the NBA is taking marijuana for medical reasons. Come on.
    You're right. It is a way bigger issue in the NFL. But I guess my point is the same. Like, why? What's the point in banning marijuana? What's the huge negative impact that it needs to be banned?

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    Is cocaine a performance enhancer? Okay then.
    Well... some of the guys who work on Wall Street here in NYC have said it is.

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    You're right. It is a way bigger issue in the NFL. But I guess my point is the same. Like, why? What's the point in banning marijuana? What's the huge negative impact that it needs to be banned?
    Same reason the NBA has a dress code. It's better for the NBA.

    This is such a non issue the players union didn't even try to change it during the last negotioations. And a huge chunk of the league smokes weed. Both the union and the NBA sees it the same way: if you get caught that many times in this weak system you don't deserve to be protected.
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    We even know it was weed? Maybe he was taking estrogen pills to get his wife pregnant

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    Very good question. I thought maybe I missed the part of the announcement about it being weed. Jumping to conclusions over facts not stated?

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    Very good question. I thought maybe I missed the part of the announcement about it being weed. Jumping to conclusions over facts not stated?
    It's not PEDs and it isn't hard drugs. What other conclusion would you come to?

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    Serious question - I can't remember who has gotten suspended since Brandon Rush? Or are you talking across the board including college?
    Was David Harrison after Rush?
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    Very good question. I thought maybe I missed the part of the announcement about it being weed. Jumping to conclusions over facts not stated?
    5 game suspension is almost always weed. Anything worse and the suspensions start at 10 games.

    Oh, and as Kstat has been pointing out, the 5 game suspension is for the third offense. The first 2 are warnings, which aren't announced (except to the player of course). You have to try really hard to get suspended for weed.

    Anyway, I've thought it likely even before the announcement that Monta would be a candidate for the stretch provision, and this news just makes the decision easier.

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    If you think Monta is the only one on the team smoking marijuana (if that's what it is) I don't know what to say.
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    If you think Monta is the only one on the team smoking marijuana (if that's what it is) I don't know what to say.
    He's probably not, but he's the only one dumb enough to get caught, so...

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    If you think Monta is the only one on the team smoking marijuana (if that's what it is) I don't know what to say.
    No, but hopefully he was the only one smoking weed after two warnings.
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    If you think Monta is the only one on the team smoking marijuana (if that's what it is) I don't know what to say.
    If you read 3 pages worth of this thread and that was your impression, I don't know what to say...

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