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    Hey, great excuse to cut and stretch.

    It will be big time addition by subtraction anyway.
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    Stretch him, buyout. Whatever. Idc about weed, it's being a careless idiot.

    Make him just a 3 mill hit to the cap and move on.

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    Wonder if we can get a late first rounder for his contract that can be waived later this season?

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    In before the overreactions


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    Wonder if we can get a late first rounder for his contract that can be waived later this season?
    Only if we are taking on more long term salary, which would be a mistake.
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    Honestly I've been expecting Monta to get bought out with his contract stretched anyway. This cements it for me that it will happen. We kind of have to if we want to open max money for a free agent anyway and he has little trade value.

    Last year is not guaranteed so it's a relatively small hit.
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    In before the overreactions


    Everyone already wanted him cut, this is the straw.

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    Everyone already wanted him cut, this is the straw.
    The straw? LOL
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    Indiana must have some good weed, lol. Call me crazy, but I swear Indiana players get caught the most.


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    Honestly I've been expecting Monta to get bought out with his contract stretched anyway. This cements it for me that it will happen. We kind of have to if we want to open max money for a free agent anyway and he has little trade value.

    Last year is not guaranteed so it's a relatively small hit.
    Couldn't find how this works. What would happen here? What would be our cap hit for this year and next year if we did this? Can we do this for Al Jeff instead?

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    Indiana must have some good weed, lol. Call me crazy, but I swear Indiana players get caught the most.
    This is who I blame lol


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    This is who I blame lol


    LMAO! I forgot they played together in GS.


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    LMAO! I forgot they played together in GS.
    They had a "we believe" reunion in the middle of the season.
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    “Monta's suspension is a very serious matter to our franchise and it will be dealt with accordingly,” Pacers general manager Kevin Pritchard said in a statement."

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    Hopefully he gets cut

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    “Monta's suspension is a very serious matter to our franchise and it will be dealt with accordingly,” Pacers general manager Kevin Pritchard said in a statement."

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    Welp...here comes the much needed cap space.


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    When you remember that the suspension essentially comes on the 3rd offense, this is a level of dumb. There may be arguments made that it's legal, but there are lots of things that are legal that employers don't want you doing.
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    Indiana must have some good weed, lol. Call me crazy, but I swear Indiana players get caught the most.
    Serious question - I can't remember who has gotten suspended since Brandon Rush? Or are you talking across the board including college?
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    Wow. Timing couldn't be much worse for Monta.

    This was a pretty massive failure of a free agency signing.

    Good guy, tried to be a leader, just wasn't a good fit.

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    Couldn't find how this works. What would happen here? What would be our cap hit for this year and next year if we did this? Can we do this for Al Jeff instead?
    We might need a cap expert to correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I believe we could actually stretch both Monta and Al to free up the 30 Million to sign, oh say someone like Gordon Hayward to the max if we so desired. I also wonder if you could get an under the cap team to take Al's contract with a future second rounder or something instead of stretching him (more ideal).

    Stretch provision basically works like this. You buy out a player and stretch the remaining cap hit over a predetermined period of time. I believe this is determined by the remaining guaranteed years. In the case of both players, only one year guaranteed remains. So if you take this year's salary of 10 million for Monta Ellis and buy him out, you can stretch the cap hit over two seasons paying 5 this year and 5 next year, effectively opening up 5 million in cap room for this season. If you did this for both players you open up 10 million. We'll likely be capped out next year anyway so this strategy would make a lot of sense and allow us the cap room to sign a max free agent this season.

    I'm assuming in this case that Monta's weirdly structured contract and the team option on Al Jefferson don't affect the way we can use the stretch provision at all, and it's very simply determined by the remaining guaranteed amount. This could be incorrect, so I invite anyone with more knowledge on the cap to correct me if I'm mistaken.
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    Monta was simply trying to get higher on his jump passes...

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    Serious question - I can't remember who has gotten suspended since Brandon Rush? Or are you talking across the board including college?
    Across the board, including college.


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    Also I don't think the NBA union would allow Pacers to cut him because of this so that dream is dead for some of you.
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    Also I don't think the NBA union would allow Pacers to cut him because of this so that dream is dead for some of you.
    Trying to hold on to anything you can I see

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