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    So, who is going to be taking on the Spurs for the ?

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    With no suspensions/injuries, the Pacers. Well, we all know how that worked out, so..... Pistons will win tonight.
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    I've had the Heat all year to win it all.

    I'll stick with them.

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    Indiana Pacers...er...um...huh... =/
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    I pray that the Heat win....for obvious reasons...I cannot stand to watch the Pistons win another championship.

    Also....I would really prefer not to watch a 5 or 6 130 "total points" games between the Spurs and Pistons. A Spurs/Pistons NBA final will be BORING.

    David Stern must be spinning over in the bed of money that he sleeps in if the Pistons beat the Heat.

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    The Pistons ... alas
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    I went a head and voted for the Pistons only because I doubt Wade will be able to play. You've got to give the Pistons credit: they're really good at beating teams that have injured players.

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    I went a head and voted for the Pistons only because I doubt Wade will be able to play. You've got to give the Pistons credit: they're really good at beating teams that have injured players.
    Wade's father said that Dwayne will definitely play tonight.

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    I went a head and voted for the Pistons only because I doubt Wade will be able to play. You've got to give the Pistons credit: they're really good at beating teams that have injured players.
    ...as were the Lakers, the Spurs, the Jazz, the Rockets, the Celtics.....

    each of those teams beat at least ONE team with an injured player on their way to titles....

    the only reason people point the pistons out is because they lack a media superstar, so they go looking for excuses.

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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    ...as were the Lakers, the Spurs, the Jazz, the Rockets, the Celtics.....

    each of those teams beat at least ONE team with an injured player on their way to titles....

    the only reason people point the pistons out is because they lack a media superstar, so they go looking for excuses.
    You're right...ONE team. But looking back on the Pistons the last two years...

    2004:
    Bucks - Ford out
    Nets - Kidd injured
    Pacers - JO, Tinsley injured/out
    Lakers - Malone out, Shaq not 100%

    2005:
    Sixers - Iverson injured
    Pacers - Artest out, Harrison out, Bender out , JO injured, Tinsley injured, Pollard injured
    Heat - Wade injured/out, Shaq injured

    Not to mention, it's always at least one of the two best players on the team.

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    Five whole minutes. What took you so long?

    And ditto what Shade said.

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    The Pistons had Rasheed Wallace injured pretty much the whole time. Billups and Prince were banged up too.

    Woop die doo.

    Aside from that, half your list you're REALLY reaching for excuses. TJ Ford? Allen Iverson? I wasn't aware we were the only team they were injured against

    ....and the excuse machine plays on.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kstat
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    The Pistons had Rasheed Wallace injured pretty much the whole time. Billups and Prince were banged up too.

    Woop die doo.

    Aside from that, half your list you're REALLY reaching for excuses.
    What excuses? That's the way it was.

    And I'm not saying the Pistons won simply because of injuries. I'm just setting the record straight that Detroit has been the beneficiaries of quite a few of them lately.

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    I'll go with Detroit because the best two teams should play each other.

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    Pistons. Hard to overcome a combination of a team with much more playoff experience in big games vs. a largely inexperienced Heat team with a hobbled Wade.
    Your horse is dead, get off it already...

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    Detroit.

    They will also beat the Spurs in 7, proving they aren't a 'lucky' champion.
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    I'll go with Detroit because the best two teams should play each other.

    the two best teams didnt play in last years finals....sooooo......

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    You're right...ONE team. But looking back on the Pistons the last two years...

    2004:
    Bucks - Ford out
    Nets - Kidd injured
    Pacers - JO, Tinsley injured/out
    Lakers - Malone out, Shaq not 100%

    2005:
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    Pacers - Artest out, Harrison out, Bender out , JO injured, Tinsley injured, Pollard injured
    Heat - Wade injured/out, Shaq injured

    Not to mention, it's always at least one of the two best players on the team.
    This list may rank with the Spurs poster who thought Manu was as good as Jordan. Just an absolute idiotic post.

    So many holes in your list. First off, you didn't mention Sheed's injury in 2004. And you've also left off Rip's injury this season (which, according to your logic, was intentionally done by the Pacers). Conveniently.

    First of all, Shaq was fine in the Finals.

    Now, to this year. Iverson was injured? Fooled the f*** out of me with the way he played. He had the single most dominant game any player has had against the Pistons the last two years in the playoffs (37 points, 15 assists in Game 3).

    As for the Pacers, well I'll compare them to the Pistons injuries. David Harrison = Carlos Delfino. Jonathon Bender = Horace Jenkins. And a healthy Pollard would have had approximately as much of an impact as he did in last season's ECF.

    You have to be a great team to win a championship. But you have to be lucky as well. Injuries are part of the game.

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    For the record, I think the Heat win tonight. Wade will play and play well, and let's face it, light-switch teams don't deserve to win championships.

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    This list may rank with the Spurs poster who thought Manu was as good as Jordan. Just an absolute idiotic post.

    So many holes in your list. First off, you didn't mention Sheed's injury in 2004. And you've also left off Rip's injury this season (which, according to your logic, was intentionally done by the Pacers). Conveniently.

    First of all, Shaq was fine in the Finals.

    Now, to this year. Iverson was injured? Fooled the f*** out of me with the way he played. He had the single most dominant game any player has had against the Pistons the last two years in the playoffs (37 points, 15 assists in Game 3).

    As for the Pacers, well I'll compare them to the Pistons injuries. David Harrison = Carlos Delfino. Jonathon Bender = Horace Jenkins. And a healthy Pollard would have had approximately as much of an impact as he did in last season's ECF.

    You have to be a great team to win a championship. But you have to be lucky as well. Injuries are part of the game.

    *gasp* Shags putting his foot down on the Pistons befalf? Never thought I'd see the day.....

    And on voting day too.....kiss all those votes goodbye

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    Quote Originally Posted by shags
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    For the record, I think the Heat win tonight. Wade will play and play well, and let's face it, light-switch teams don't deserve to win championships.
    Classic Shags.



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    This list may rank with the Spurs poster who thought Manu was as good as Jordan. Just an absolute idiotic post.

    So many holes in your list. First off, you didn't mention Sheed's injury in 2004. And you've also left off Rip's injury this season (which, according to your logic, was intentionally done by the Pacers). Conveniently.

    First of all, Shaq was fine in the Finals.

    Now, to this year. Iverson was injured? Fooled the f*** out of me with the way he played. He had the single most dominant game any player has had against the Pistons the last two years in the playoffs (37 points, 15 assists in Game 3).

    As for the Pacers, well I'll compare them to the Pistons injuries. David Harrison = Carlos Delfino. Jonathon Bender = Horace Jenkins. And a healthy Pollard would have had approximately as much of an impact as he did in last season's ECF.

    You have to be a great team to win a championship. But you have to be lucky as well. Injuries are part of the game.

    Not so classic Shags.





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    this can't ever be overstated......

    there is NOTHING quite like the drama and anticipation of a game 7......

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shags
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    This list may rank with the Spurs poster who thought Manu was as good as Jordan. Just an absolute idiotic post.

    So many holes in your list. First off, you didn't mention Sheed's injury in 2004. And you've also left off Rip's injury this season (which, according to your logic, was intentionally done by the Pacers). Conveniently.

    First of all, Shaq was fine in the Finals.

    Now, to this year. Iverson was injured? Fooled the f*** out of me with the way he played. He had the single most dominant game any player has had against the Pistons the last two years in the playoffs (37 points, 15 assists in Game 3).

    As for the Pacers, well I'll compare them to the Pistons injuries. David Harrison = Carlos Delfino. Jonathon Bender = Horace Jenkins. And a healthy Pollard would have had approximately as much of an impact as he did in last season's ECF.

    You have to be a great team to win a championship. But you have to be lucky as well. Injuries are part of the game.
    Once again, I'm not trying to argue either way. I simply showed the injuries that the teams the Pistons have played the last two years have faced.

    Shaq was not injured, but we were told ad nauseum he was fat and not 100%.

    AI is apparently ALWAYS injured.

    And how about the others? Are you saying the injuries to Kidd, Ford, and now Wade (not to mention JO and Tins) weren't significant?

    This is what I get for trying to play devil's advocate.

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    there isn't a player in the NBA that is %100 by this point.

    As for Kidd, he was prefectly fine playing superman against Marbury and the Knicks, but all of a sudden he plays us in the next round and doesnt play well, and the excuse machine starts up.....

    The guys gets a triple double and plays great in games 4 and 5, but all of a sudden, he doesnt make a shot in game 7, and all of a sudden he's playing on one leg and half an arm? Please.

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