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    Default I've come up with some trade scenarios....

    Some of them might suck, but hey, I'm board, and trade scenarios are fun.

    Indiana trades Stephen Jackson and Scot Pollard for Jerry Stackhouse and Shawn Bradley.

    Stackhouse replaces Reggie and becomes our go-to scorer in the clutch.

    Dallas get's someone that can play D our on the perimeter as well as score a few buckets.

    Both teams exchange useless centers.

    I already know you guys are going to hate that one.

    Ok, how about this one.

    Indiana trades Anthony Johnson, Scot Pollard, a future first rounder for Derek Fisher, Rodney White, and Zarko Cabarkapa.

    Indiana get's a good backup point with championship experience, along with some more depth at guard and another combo big man, and one that can hit threes by the way.

    Golden State get's a good back up point, an experienced center, which they really, really need, and a future first rounder.

    I think that one is actually a very good deal for us, but probably not Golden State.

    Here is one that I really like.

    Indiana trades Scot Pollard to Philadelphia for Aaron McKie and a 2nd rounder.

    Indiana gets a veteran 2 guard who can step up and play when needed, can also knock down threes, and could be a veteran presence at little expense. And also get a 2nd rounder for taking a player with 3 years left on his contract. (Not like we are going to be under the cap anyways)

    Philadelphia get's rid of McKie's 3 year deal, get's Pollard's expiring contract for next season.

    Don't know what you guys will think about that.

    We have Seattle re-sign Ray Allen, then offer them Croshere, Bender, and Jackson, along with a future 1st round pick or two. Actually, I didn't really try with this one. I think I'm just dreaming.

    Also, I'd love to sign Bo Outlaw. His prescence in the lockerroom would really be great for this team.

    Tell me what you think.

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    If you guys every got Stackhouse, I'd be dancing in the streets.

    Seriously.

    A guy that shoots a career %19 in elimination games? Heck, I'd broker the deal myself if I could....

    the Kstat-o-meter should have one extra bar above "walking on air," that reads, "Pacers aquire Jerry Stackhouse."

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    I don't want to trade Jackson. He didn't play well in game six, but, otherwise, he's been pretty strong. Our two position is fairly strong.

    We need a point and possibly a five man.

    Or . . . trade JO and start with a new hand.

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    Default Re: I've come up with some trade scenarios....

    What about Indiana trades Fred Jones, Jonathan Bender, Scot Pollard, and Anthony Johnson for Joel Przybilla, Sebastian Telfair, Ruben Patterson, and Derek Anderson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fig Newton
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    What about Indiana trades Fred Jones, Jonathan Bender, Scot Pollard, and Anthony Johnson for Joel Przybilla, Sebastian Telfair, Ruben Patterson, and Derek Anderson?
    I seriously doubt Portland would deal Telfair. They're very high on him. Pryzbilla would depend on who the next coach is. I know Cheeks loved the guy so much he started him over ratliff.

    I'm sure Portland would like Fred Jones, but thats a bit much to give up for him.

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    Default Re: I've come up with some trade scenarios....

    How about adding our 1st rounder, KStat?

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    How about adding our 1st rounder, KStat?
    I just don't see it happening.

    Im not saying that it wouldnt be fair value, I'm saying that Telfair is a kid Portland took ahead of better players last year, because they think he's their future franchise PG. They most likely have no desire to trade him after a decent rookie year.

    Aside from Randolph and maybe Ratliff, He's probably the 2nd or 3rd hardest player to get on that team.

    I also don't see why the Pacers would want Tinsley part 2, either. He's going to take 2 or 3 more years before he becomes a quality player.

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    I'd like to see a deal to get Maggette and Wilcox out of LA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tora tora
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    I'd like to see a deal to get Maggette and Wilcox out of LA.
    Would you be interested in this???



    Outgoing
    Jermaine O'Neal
    6-11 PF from Eau Claire HS (SC)
    24.3 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 34.8 minutes
    Incoming
    Elton Brand
    6-8 PF from Duke
    20.0 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 2.6 apg in 37.0 minutes
    Shaun Livingston
    6-7 PG from Peoria Central (HS)
    7.4 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 5.0 apg in 27.1 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +3.1 ppg, +3.7 rpg, and +5.7 apg.


    L.A. Clippers Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Elton Brand
    6-8 PF from Duke
    20.0 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 2.6 apg in 37.0 minutes
    Shaun Livingston
    6-7 PG from Peoria Central (HS)
    7.4 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 5.0 apg in 27.1 minutes
    Incoming
    Jermaine O'Neal
    6-11 PF from Eau Claire HS (SC)
    24.3 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 34.8 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -3.1 ppg, -3.7 rpg, and -5.7 apg.



    Successful Scenario
    Due to Indiana and L.A. Clippers being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Indiana and L.A. Clippers had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.


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    Jermaine for Brand & Livingston?! No way!

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    personally i dont like the deal...and i really dont think either team would like the deal, either..but jmo....

    from our standpoint, i dont think u can trade jo.....for anyone other than possibly kg....just doesnt make sense.....hes young and unbelievably talented....and the last 16 games he played when hurt shouldnt be what everyone remembers....hes a dominant force inside...hes got a great midrange jumper for a big man....and hes a great defender.....anything we do means a dropoff at that position....unless ur talking kg....cause duncan aint going anywhere....i personally wouldnt even trade him for nowitski-though u might be tempted....nite in and nite out, we have an advantage at that position....he forces teams to adjust how they are gonna play the pacers...he almost always commands double teams....i just believe there really is no way he gets traded...not with his contract and his overall value...

    from the clips standpoint i cant see it either....they look at brand as being close to jo with a lesser contract....plus they would be giving up a great young talent....so from their standpoint i cant see them doing it as they probably dont feel they get that much better at the 4 for what they have to give up...

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    The two players I feel are available and would be interested in are Odom and Allen. The only player I would not trade would be J.O.

    Trading for Brand and Livingston would not improve our title chances for next year.

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    brand and livingston are both very good players, talent-wise and salary-wise its an almost believable deal, but they have 0 games playoff experience. After what the Pacers have gone through this season, you cannot deal any part of this teams nucleus.

    That mavs trade was comedy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kstat
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    If you guys every got Stackhouse, I'd be dancing in the streets.

    Seriously.

    A guy that shoots a career %19 in elimination games? Heck, I'd broker the deal myself if I could....

    the Kstat-o-meter should have one extra bar above "walking on air," that reads, "Pacers aquire Jerry Stackhouse."

    He has been doing good this post season hasn't he? (off the bench with Finley not playing well)

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    Wow - Pollard went from being useless in one sentence to a needed experienced back-up center.
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    Stackhouse clutch? How is he more clutch then Jack

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    Edwards for Shaq. Make it happen Donnie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peck
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    Would you be interested in this???



    Outgoing
    Jermaine O'Neal
    6-11 PF from Eau Claire HS (SC)
    24.3 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 34.8 minutes
    Incoming
    Elton Brand
    6-8 PF from Duke
    20.0 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 2.6 apg in 37.0 minutes
    Shaun Livingston
    6-7 PG from Peoria Central (HS)
    7.4 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 5.0 apg in 27.1 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +3.1 ppg, +3.7 rpg, and +5.7 apg.


    L.A. Clippers Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Elton Brand
    6-8 PF from Duke
    20.0 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 2.6 apg in 37.0 minutes
    Shaun Livingston
    6-7 PG from Peoria Central (HS)
    7.4 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 5.0 apg in 27.1 minutes
    Incoming
    Jermaine O'Neal
    6-11 PF from Eau Claire HS (SC)
    24.3 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 34.8 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -3.1 ppg, -3.7 rpg, and -5.7 apg.



    Successful Scenario
    Due to Indiana and L.A. Clippers being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Indiana and L.A. Clippers had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.


    My oh my, you really have done it now. Mark my words Livingston is going to be a Star in the NBA.

    Yes I would do that deal. Clippers won't.

    Livinston will be a star, no doubt in my mind. He is going to be very special

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    Speaking of the Clippers, I remember hearing a while back that they were interested in dealing Maggette this off-season to resign Bobby Simmons, who they want as their starting 3-man, leaving more money to also sign a good 2-guard.

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    Let's trade for Ostertag!

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    My oh my, you really have done it now. Mark my words Livingston is going to be a Star in the NBA.

    Yes I would do that deal. Clippers won't.

    Livinston will be a star, no doubt in my mind. He is going to be very special
    Yes. The Clippers won't do that deal because Livingston could very well become the best point guard in the league in 3-4 years.

    The real question is would you do O'Neal for Brand straight up...

    I would, Brand is more of an inside player IMO. I love his durability, efficiency, rebounding, and shotblocking (despite being undersized). Really the only thing JO has had over Brand these past 3 years or so has been scoring average

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peck
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    Would you be interested in this???



    Outgoing
    Jermaine O'Neal
    6-11 PF from Eau Claire HS (SC)
    24.3 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 34.8 minutes
    Incoming
    Elton Brand
    6-8 PF from Duke
    20.0 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 2.6 apg in 37.0 minutes
    Shaun Livingston
    6-7 PG from Peoria Central (HS)
    7.4 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 5.0 apg in 27.1 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +3.1 ppg, +3.7 rpg, and +5.7 apg.


    L.A. Clippers Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Elton Brand
    6-8 PF from Duke
    20.0 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 2.6 apg in 37.0 minutes
    Shaun Livingston
    6-7 PG from Peoria Central (HS)
    7.4 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 5.0 apg in 27.1 minutes
    Incoming
    Jermaine O'Neal
    6-11 PF from Eau Claire HS (SC)
    24.3 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 34.8 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -3.1 ppg, -3.7 rpg, and -5.7 apg.



    Successful Scenario
    Due to Indiana and L.A. Clippers being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Indiana and L.A. Clippers had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
    Peck, I would jump all OVER that deal!! Brand is THE most underated guy in the game, in my book He gets rare press and even less TV time. I'm with UB, Livingston is going to be impressive. A 6'7 PG?? 6'7? 6'7!! Just what we need, a BIG PG. hell yeah, I'd do that deal.

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    brand and livingston are both very good players, talent-wise and salary-wise its an almost believable deal, but they have 0 games playoff experience. After what the Pacers have gone through this season, you cannot deal any part of this teams nucleus.
    What does playoff experience have to do with it? Reason I say that is look at the ECF and WCF finalists. I'm looking at a Miami team and a Suns team and I think about this. This is the playoff experience of the western teams, with the leading guy in experience in quotes.

    1 ) Phoenix- 176 playoff games (Steve Nash- 51 )
    2 ) San Antonio- 489 playoff games (Robert Horry- 175 )
    3 ) Seattle- 97 playoff games (Antonio Daniels- 48 )
    4 ) Dallas- 256 playoff games (Michael Finley- 43 )
    5 ) Sacramento- 351 playoff games (Greg Ostertag- 87 )
    6 ) Houston- 383 playoff games (Dikembe Mutumbo- 79 )
    7 ) Denver- 352 playoff games (Byron Russell- 102 )
    8 ) Memphis- 97 playoff games (Bonzi Wells- 28 )

    Not that I think playoff experience is overrated, it IS a factor, but I personally would drool at a low post banger like Brand over JO, simply because it would fit our talent scheme better, I think. Livingston in the deal gives us what we're sorely lacking...some size at PG. We got/get pushed around way too much by opposing PGs.

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    Successful Scenario
    Due to Indiana and L.A. Clippers being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Indiana and L.A. Clippers had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
    Since the CBA is up at the end of June, then it's hard to speculate whether these provisions will be verbatim in the new CBA. Nice analysis, though.

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    What about Indiana trades Fred Jones, Jonathan Bender, Scot Pollard, and Anthony Johnson for Joel Przybilla, Sebastian Telfair, Ruben Patterson, and Derek Anderson?
    They aren't going to trade Telfair (especially for Fred Jones, Anthony Davis, and two overpaid guys). And why would the Pacers want to add Ruben Patterson, who once claimed that he would of hit his teammate but he's on probation and he would get in trouble? Would you really want Jackson, Artest, and Patterson out on the court?

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    Yes. The Clippers won't do that deal because Livingston could very well become the best point guard in the league in 3-4 years.

    The real question is would you do O'Neal for Brand straight up...

    I would, Brand is more of an inside player IMO. I love his durability, efficiency, rebounding, and shotblocking (despite being undersized). Really the only thing JO has had over Brand these past 3 years or so has been scoring average
    Removing all personal attatchment from this deal, The Pacers would do this in a HEARTBEAT.

    If Brand was playing on any other NBA team but the clippers, he's be right up there with JO, Dirk, Stoudemire, etc. He's an amazingly versatile power forward.

    As for livingston, if he hadn't been injured all year, I think the Clippers would make the playoffs. He reminds me a lot of Penny Hardaway, before all the injuries.

    If the Clippers can keep their team intact, they'll win 50 games next year.

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    NO TRADES!
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