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  • Why we'll win game 6

    Time to be more blunt, but despite that gnawing feeling that says that we're done, I have this overriding sense of "we'll WIN" and there are many reasons for it:

    1. we lost two in a row, AFTER we WON two in a row, as everyone said before game 4, winning 3 in a row against a team of that caliber is almost impossible, wel lthat goes two way, we are not in the habit of losing two or more in a row, therefore we will win.
    2. "Reggie's last game" it has a certain magic to it, players will just bite their tongues one more time, run the extra screen one more time, hit the boards that little harder.
    3. Even "created" slumps don't last that long. Once they start shooting they will start falling, the law of averages just demands it.
    4. The crowd will be there for the team, more perhaps then in game 4, adn they were loud!
    5. Rick may not have made the in-game changes he perhaps should have made, but between games I am sure he will come up with something to improve our offense.
    6. We wil crash the boards, knowing that rebounds give scoring chances (offensive and defensive, only ball possesion can let you score).
    7. Detroit won two in a row, BIG they will not expect the Pacers to try another fight, and even if they do, they will have in mind that game 7 is in the Palace.
    8. we are just plain good


    there ya have it, no caveats, we WILL WIN.
    So Long And Thanks For All The Fish.

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    Then why not have Breakfast at Milliways!


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    Re: Why we'll win game 6

    Very good points.

    As a Piston fan, I'm definitely worried that the Pistons won't take this game seriously enough. They need to treat this like a Game 7, and understand the type of intensity the Pacers will bring and the kind of desperation they will play with. It's important to close this out, but the Pacers are going to play great tonight, so it's going to be tough.

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      Re: Why we'll win game 6

      Yes we will win. THANK YOU
      *removed* Just keep politics and religion completely out of it, please.

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        Re: Why we'll win game 6

        I don't think the Pistons will come out over confident. Everyone thought that might happen in game 5 and look what happened. They will not not take the Pacers lightly in game 6. I think on the otherhand the Pacers will play alot better and with more energy than they have the last few games. I think this will be an extremely close and exciting game.

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          Re: Why we'll win game 6

          I have to ask about #2, when does that become pointless? At some point we always run into "Reggie's last game", if the players can always muster enough to win it for Reg then should we not win a championship. Sorry guys, I think the Pacers know they're done. Just like Tim said, they are just waiting to die now.
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          • #6
            Re: Why we'll win game 6

            Pacers won't win this game. In fact, it's not even going to be close.

            IndyToad
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            • #7
              Re: Why we'll win game 6

              Originally posted by indytoad
              Pacers won't win this game. In fact, it's not even going to be close.

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                Re: Why we'll win game 6

                Originally posted by indytoad
                Pacers won't win this game. In fact, it's not even going to be close.

                IndyToad
                Step out the car meow
                I'm not feeling too good about it either. Detroit is 7-0 in closeout games over the last two years for a reason. They smell blood.

                Here's hoping I'm wrong...

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                • #9
                  Re: Why we'll win game 6

                  I think the Pacers win tonight - and I think it for no rational reason.

                  My reasons are:

                  1) No way the Pacers shoot that bad AGAIN - Detroit's a great defensive team but they aren't impregnable

                  2) Tinsley is more than due for a good game and he's your key

                  3) This is the big one and has no rationality. Every time this season when it looked like the Pacers were dead - like they'd taken that one last shot that would put them out of their misery - they came up with something nobody thought they had in them. The post-brawl winning streak with 7 or 8 guys in uniform. The response to the JO shoulder injury. The response to the Tinsley injury. The response to the Boston blowouts.

                  I think they have one more of those in them and I think we'll see it tonight. I'd still put Detroit at 5:1 favorites to win the series, but I'd give 3:2 on the Pacers tonight.

                  They look like they're done. But every other time they've looked like that this season, they haven't been.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Why we'll win game 6

                    As someone else mentioned before, the Billup-Rip-Ben Pistons are at their BEST when they can finish a team off. They're undefeated (7-0) over the last 3 years in this situation.

                    Also, they know the more games they lose, the more they allow shaq to rest. They want this series to be over ASAP. They're also not going to overlook Reggie Miller in his final game.

                    Lastly, the common theme around here seems to be, "they played so bad, so by rule they're due to play well tonight." That's a very dangerous mentality to have. They're going to have to MAKE things go better for them. Its not going to happen on its own.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Why we'll win game 6

                      Detroit is 7-0 in closeout situations just means that they aren't likely to let down coming into this game.

                      It is no more of a guarantee than the fact that prior to last series Indiana had never won a series after losing the first game.

                      I'm more encouraged by the way the Pacers have played with their backs against the wall this year, and think it will have more of an effect than multi-year past performance stats.
                      BillS

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                      Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...

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                      • #12
                        Re: Why we'll win game 6

                        Originally posted by Kstat
                        As someone else mentioned before, the Billup-Rip-Ben Pistons are at their BEST when they can finish a team off. They're undefeated (7-0) over the last 3 years in this situation.

                        Also, they know the more games they lose, the more they allow shaq to rest. They want this series to be over ASAP. They're also not going to overlook Reggie Miller in his final game.

                        Lastly, the common theme around here seems to be, "they played so bad, so by rule they're due to play well tonight." That's a very dangerous mentality to have. They're going to have to MAKE things go better for them. Its not going to happen on its own.
                        As much as I hate it, its all true. The Pacers are not shooting well do to bad luck, that happens once in a series maybe twice. The Pacers have made it tradition. So I have no reason to believe that tonight we will hit our shots tonight. The Pistons D has some to do with that, but honestly we just don't have a whole lot of great shooters on this team.
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                          Re: Why we'll win game 6

                          Game 5 was the only game I felt the Pistons totally dominated. Game 1 sure was ugly, but towards the end of the game the Pacers looked like they were in command.

                          Problem is the Pistons seemed to have figured out most of the myriad of lineups we can throw at them by now. If Tinsley and the Pacers can just run more of that beautiful Highscreen pick n roll play... its gonna take alot of luck and sound play calling, along with some miller magic to win tonight.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Why we'll win game 6

                            Originally posted by Diamond Dave
                            As much as I hate it, its all true. The Pacers are not shooting well do to bad luck, that happens once in a series maybe twice. The Pacers have made it tradition. So I have no reason to believe that tonight we will hit our shots tonight. The Pistons D has some to do with that, but honestly we just don't have a whole lot of great shooters on this team.
                            Do you really feel that way?

                            I admit that I have not seen the last two games, but I did see us get blown out by the Celtics and in turn blow them out. Each time we were creamed the defensive effort was there from the Celts, but we also were shooting extremely poorly.

                            If all our shots were not falling b/c they were contested, then I will agree that the defense of the Pistons is to blame. But I have a hard time believing we did not get some wide open looks from the 3-pt line. And we have to face it, part of our ability to win games is hitting the long ball. It isn't the only reason and we can't rely on it exclusively, but against a team like the Pistons we have to shoot better than 20%.

                            I do think Detroit took away some of the easy stuff, but it sounds to me like they were giving us the outside shot. With guys like Stephen Jackson, Fred Jones, Reggie, AJ, Austin, and James Jones... we have at least 6 guys who can make that shot. Granted some more than others, but to shoot it as coldly as we did was just uncommon.

                            And that is what I don't expect to see again, missed wide open shots. Will we continue to struggle in the paint... yes. But, one of the things to loosen the lane up is to actually hit a shot outside the paint. The colder we shoot from the outside the easier we make it for the Pistons to defend us.

                            One thing I would like to know is this, is there any way of drawing fouls against Sheed and Ben? I know people got mad at Tins going in there and JO shooting so much, but can't somebody draw a freaking foul on them? It may be that they play defense that well, or it may be the respect of the officials, but it would be huge if we could actually sit one of those guys down.

                            The Pistons have certainly had our bigs (Foster, O'Neal) in foul trouble, so it would be nice to have that reversed.

                            If we do win this game and there are little fouls called on the Wallaces, that is what Rick should go to the media with. He should tell his team it is all strategy and to keep their heads out of their keesters, but that political move may be worth it's weight in gold. As much as I hate the thought of him whining...
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                              Re: Why we'll win game 6

                              I admit that I have not seen the last two games, but I did see us get blown out by the Celtics and in turn blow them out.
                              I'm flattered you think the Pistons are no better than the Celtics

                              I admit that I have not seen the last two games
                              That might play a SMALL part in this post.....

                              But I have a hard time believing we did not get some wide open looks from the 3-pt line.
                              Oh, you got some open looks. But you're not going to beat the LA clippers on threes alone, let alone us. Your shooters aren't that good, outside of two, maybe three guys.

                              I do think Detroit took away some of the easy stuff, but it sounds to me like they were giving us the outside shot. With guys like Stephen Jackson, Fred Jones, Reggie, AJ, Austin, and James Jones... we have at least 6 guys who can make that shot.
                              I see four guys on that list that I would be perfectly happy at giving them an open three every posession.

                              And that is what I don't expect to see again, missed wide open shots. Will we continue to struggle in the paint... yes. But, one of the things to loosen the lane up is to actually hit a shot outside the paint. The colder we shoot from the outside the easier we make it for the Pistons to defend us.
                              The more you take threes, the less you make us respect you inside, the more we can easily trap you on the perimeter.

                              ANY time in the playoffs that you've had good shooting nights, its because Oneal is creating those open looks by drawing attention.

                              One thing I would like to know is this, is there any way of drawing fouls against Sheed and Ben? I know people got mad at Tins going in there and JO shooting so much, but can't somebody draw a freaking foul on them? It may be that they play defense that well, or it may be the respect of the officials, but it would be huge if we could actually sit one of those guys down.
                              Pretty riskey game to play. If you don't draw fouls, those blocked shots are going to turn into easy transition baskets.

                              We also have this guy....his name is McDyess.....I hear he's pretty good too....

                              The Pistons have certainly had our bigs (Foster, O'Neal) in foul trouble, so it would be nice to have that reversed.
                              We did that by going at them in the post, and by ben simply drawing a lot of holding fouls on the boards. There's no trick to it, we just kept going at them in the paint.

                              If we do win this game and there are little fouls called on the Wallaces, that is what Rick should go to the media with. He should tell his team it is all strategy and to keep their heads out of their keesters, but that political move may be worth it's weight in gold. As much as I hate the thought of him whining...
                              I don't understand this part at all.

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