Comparrisons mean nothing in the context in which you are saying them. However if you & I were in the same car & were injured thus requireing your back & my knee surgery then there is the context to which to use it.
Comparisons may be a pet peeve of yours but we use them every day for many things. If your picking a piece of fruit do you look to see if one has a soft mushy part or do you take the first one you pick up?
When we are comparing Brad it is not because we just want to, it's because the Pacers made comparisons & decided that Brad was not worth keeping.
I have no real problem with that logic, I strongly disagree with it, but I understand it.
However it is our fan base on here who use the injury excuse that, IMO, is just unfair & in some cases just ways of justifying whatever Lord Donnie does. You know he can do no wrong don't you? To some people that is the way it is.
Others have a strong belief that Brad had problems, I disagree with them but I respect thier thoughts on the matter. Others just down any player who was ever here.
Look no further than Al Harrington for this.
House Name: Pacers
House Words: "We Kneel To No King"
I will be looking forward to such a meeting.
I would rather be the hammer than the nail
This thread has ventured off into hair-splitting country...but I just wanted to chip in my two cents.
I like Brad Miller very much, and I would love to have him on the team. He isn't perfect, for many reasons listed above, but the good far outweighs the bad IMO.
It is very hard to say that Brad Miller is overpaid. The market bears what it bears, and 7 footers who can shoot and bring effort on both ends bring a premium in this league. I don't think he has crashed statistically, or decreased in productivity (minus injuries), such as a guy like Croshere, so I don't think he is overpaid.
The Pacers were just too hamstrung financiall to pay him what he was worth at the end of his contract. In hindsight we should have locked him up earlier, and we probably locked in some of the wrong people. Unfortunately GM's don't have crystal balls. You win some and you lose some, and IMO, he was definitely a huge loss for us.
Guys like him are hard to replace...that is why they get paid so much.
When you're playing against a stacked deck, compete even harder. Show the world how much you'll fight for the winners circle. If you do, someday the cellophane will crackle off a fresh pack, one that belongs to you, and the cards will be stacked in your favor.
We signed Bender as a 22 year old with a ton of potential and, at the time, a rash of injuries, but not a major problem with them. Brad was something like 26 or 27, had had a long, long history of not finishing the season strong, foot problems, and an indifference to off-season conditioning.
Essentially, what I'm saying is if you're wanting a big guy who can shoot, ther e are cheaper, healthier options than Brad Miller. If you want to look on our own team, a healthy Croshere or Bender could fill that role.
To the guy who said no Center would ever be put on Bender: That's fine. Take Detroit for example, since we're talking about how much we miss Brad Miller. They then put Rasheed on Bender, leaving Big Ben to guard JO? We've seen how much easier JO has it against Ben as compared to Rasheed. So esentially, you have proven my point for me, thanks.
But don't take my word for it - read it here: http://www.fromallangles.com/glossar...rms/sprain.htm
In case you couldn't figure that out, here's the full text:
An injury to the ligament
Or if you prefer the long definition:
a painful injury to a joint caused by a sudden wrenching of its ligaments
I'm sure you had to call him stupid to make that point...
This whole thread is stupid. Why not just pin it to the top so we don't have to have a new one every other friggin month.
all right i'll read through all this later, but first off:
"Plus, he'd have gone into the stands. "
hell yes he would've
and i'm glad to have brad in sacto... when he left indy for sac, it was nice, cause from one fave team to another.
Now that I have re-read his post: To me JB's rash of injuries were just as significant or as insignificant as what happened to Brad. No amount of conditioning is going to prevent what happens to your foot when Shaq steps on it.
Don't get me wrong, I like Brad, but can we please obsess about something else.
I personally think we should be more upset about losing Primoz than B. Miller.
Brad Miller will have long retired, and we will be still talking about him on this forum.
My two cents, I thing we would have won the whole thing last year if we had Brad on that team. He would not have been too hard to trade this year.
I would rather be the hammer than the nail