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Bob Kravitz guarentees Indiana will win game 6...

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  • Bob Kravitz guarentees Indiana will win game 6...

    The Pacers, the same Pacers who have lost the last two playoff games to the Pistons by roughly 1,300 points -- give or take a thousand -- will win Game 6 Thursday night at Conseco Fieldhouse.

    As for Game 7, hey, they're on their own. There's only so much a dumpy little sports columnist can do in a short space of time.

    Yes, I know Tuesday night was bad. I know Game 5 here at the Palace of Auburn Hills was as much fun as a case of the shingles. I know the statistics, which show that 84 percent of teams that win Game 5 of a 2-2 series win that series.

    I know that it's humbling, if not downright humiliating, when Darko Milicic is called upon to finish off the proceedings for the Pistons and ultimately outscores Jamaal Tinsley, three points to two.

    I saw it, you saw it and, sadly, many Hoosier youngsters saw the carnage, which might leave them psychologically scarred for years.

    "The last 31 minutes were dismal," Pacers coach Rick Carlisle said after the Pacers' 86-67 loss to the Detroit Pistons. "No getting around it. As (former coach) Bill Fitch used to say, 'When you stink, you stink.' And we stunk."

    The Pistons had more runs than a reckless traveler in Mexico.

    The Pistons had more second chances than Darryl Strawberry.

    Please, remember to tip your waiters and waitresses.

    Lest anybody suggest I'm letting the Pacers off the hook for failing to show up for the final 21/2 quarters, let me summarize:

    Tinsley, who can make you crazier than a spouse, stunk. Reggie Miller, who might have taken early retirement when we weren't watching, stunk. Jermaine O'Neal and Stephen Jackson weren't quite as noxious, but they didn't give the Pacers a chance to win, either.

    Not that it would have made any real difference, not with the Pacers shooting 37 percent and getting outrebounded by 18, but I'm still confused as to why Carlisle stayed so long with Tinsley when it was evident he was intent on padding Ben Wallace's block totals.

    If you remember, the Pacers led 31-27 with 7:05 left in the second quarter, and were in the penalty.

    Shortly thereafter, Tinsley replaced Anthony Johnson.

    Shortly thereafter, the game was over (although many of us stuck around for the chance to watch Milicic actually play).

    I'm not crazy enough to drop it all on Tinsley -- maybe 62.5 percent of it -- but there's got to be a point, sooner rather than later, when Carlisle acknowledges he's had enough of his wackiness.

    (Listen, if I'm going to guarantee Game 6, the least Carlisle can do is put his impetuous point guard on a short leash.)

    How bad did it get? In the second half, the Pacers were hit with a technical foul for using too many timeouts. It was one of the few places where they blew out the Pistons on the score sheet.

    An extra timeout: Why would Carlisle make the misery last any longer than necessary?

    "We're not going to run and hide from the truth," Carlisle said. ". . . We got outfought and outplayed. And outcoached. You know, we're all in this together."

    It wasn't very encouraging to hear so many of the Pacers players concede there was a marked lack of effort in Game 5. One thing it's fair to expect at any point in the playoffs: maximum effort. Stephen Jackson said it. Miller said it. My guess is, if we asked John Edwards, he would have said it, too.

    When Jermaine O'Neal was asked if it would be hard for the Pacers to come back from this mauling, he said, "It better not be hard at all. . . . It's a test of our will. If we don't have enough will to come out and win a game on our home court, then we have to start playing for next season."

    Which brings me back to The Guarantee.

    The Pacers' will.

    No, you haven't seen a lot of will -- or baskets or rebounds -- the past two games. But one thing about this team: It can take a punch.

    If I've learned anything about these Pacers by now, it's that they don't roll over and quit. They are too stubborn and prideful to let it end without making the Pistons sweat out a Game 7, and they are too committed to Uncle Reggie to let his career end at home.

    A guarantee?

    I'm putting the Troy, Mich., Marriott on the credit card now.

    Guarantee that, Rasheed.

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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    Re: Bob Kravitz guarentees Indiana will win game 6...

    If I've learned anything about these Pacers by now, it's that they don't roll over and quit.
    Not that I'm disagreeing about the Pacers being tough, but what exactly did they do in games 4 and 5?

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

    Division Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 1989, 1990, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
    Conference Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 2005
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      Re: Bob Kravitz guarentees Indiana will win game 6...

      I dunno about Game 4 - thought the effort was there - they just executed like they were brain-dead.

      They tanked two of the Celtic games too and came back. I wouldn't guarantee anything but I think they have one last game in them.

      I WILL guarantee that if they lose Thursday, I think it's over - I just don't see them coming back from that.

      Friggin' Tinsley needs to watch some tape. LOTS of tape. Needs to have it wired into his brain or something.

      I disagree with Kravitz on that. However bad Tinsley was, you don't win a game vs Detroit with AJ at point - not unless Reggie or Jax is doing something unbelievable. Replacing him would be the same thing as a concession.
      The poster formerly known as Rimfire

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      • #4
        Re: Bob Kravitz guarentees Indiana will win game 6...

        I would prefer Reggie Gaurantee the victory, then maybe the rest of the team would play with heart. They'll do it to cover RM's back, they won't for Kravitz'sssss's's's'ses
        Ever notice how friendly folks are at a shootin' range??.

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          Re: Bob Kravitz guarentees Indiana will win game 6...

          i thought it was a great column.
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          "It's a league game, Smokey"

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            Re: Bob Kravitz guarentees Indiana will win game 6...

            Letter to the Sports Editor of The Indianapolis Star:

            Since Mr. has said the Pacers will win game 6 if that doesn't happen will you PLEASE fire him!!!

            can easily be replaced by anyone at pacersdigest.com. Don't worry about which poster you choose. If you pick the wrong one Hicks will just keep banning until you get it right.



            Sincerely,
            hater
            lover

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            • #7
              Re: Bob Kravitz guarentees Indiana will win game 6...

              Originally posted by Kstat
              Not that I'm disagreeing about the Pacers being tough, but what exactly did they do in games 4 and 5?
              What did the Pistons do in Games 2 and 3?

              Jees it sucks when the Pistons are winning and you turn into an arrogant............

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                Re: Bob Kravitz guarentees Indiana will win game 6...

                Originally posted by waterjater
                What did the Pistons do in Games 2 and 3?

                Jees it sucks when the Pistons are winning and you turn into an arrogant............
                I wasn't aware the Pistons quit in game 3....

                It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

                Division Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 1989, 1990, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
                Conference Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 2005
                NBA Champions 1989, 1990, 2004

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                  Re: Bob Kravitz guarentees Indiana will win game 6...

                  they only came back in game 3 because the Pacers stopped playing and ran ISO's hoping the clock would run out..........

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                    Re: Bob Kravitz guarentees Indiana will win game 6...

                    Originally posted by waterjater
                    they only came back in game 3 because the Pacers stopped playing and ran ISO's hoping the clock would run out..........
                    ok. But the point was, you implied that the Pistons quit in game 3. They didn't.

                    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

                    Division Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 1989, 1990, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
                    Conference Champions 1955, 1956, 1988, 2005
                    NBA Champions 1989, 1990, 2004

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                    • #11
                      Re: Bob Kravitz guarentees Indiana will win game 6...

                      Peace....

                      What I implied was the Pistons played lousy in Games 2 and 3. The Pacers played lousy in Games 4 and 5....actually worse than lousy!

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                        Re: Bob Kravitz guarentees Indiana will win game 6...

                        Originally posted by waterjater
                        Peace....

                        What I implied was the Pistons played lousy in Games 2 and 3. The Pacers played lousy in Games 4 and 5....actually worse than lousy!
                        Don't take it personal waterjater. For some reason it does seem Stat is full of p!ss and vinegar today.
                        You know how hippos are made out to be sweet and silly, like big cows, but are actually extremely dangerous and can kill you with stunning brutality? The Pacers are the NBA's hippos....Matt Moore CBS Sports....

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                          Re: Bob Kravitz guarentees Indiana will win game 6...

                          I'd Rather hear this from Uncle Reggie-Jac's-JO---Not from Krapitz.......@ least let Uncle Reggie go out on another player's Note of Confidence......Not a Reporter's!I do think WE (Pacer's) can & will win this round......(True Pacer fan's)---->Keep the FAITH

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                          • #14
                            Re: Bob Kravitz guarentees Indiana will win game 6...

                            Well Bob can guarantee in one hand and sh it in the other.

                            I wonder which one will fill up first?

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                            • #15
                              Re: Bob Kravitz guarentees Indiana will win game 6...

                              That's dumb! Why would he do that? Leave it up the players! It's almost embarassing.
                              AKA Sactolover05

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