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    To get my mind off of the game, what refs do you hate? I guess I will start my list.

    Joey Crawford
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    Steve Jaffee (spelling?)
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    The refs who where doing our games against the Sixers this year, I dont know who they where but its them.

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    Top of the list must be Jess Kersey for his BS 4 point continuation play for Larry Johnson in the 1999 playoffs vs. Knicks.
    That call is burned in my brain forever as one of the worst.

    Johnson gets barely touched by Antonio Davis, takes a dribble and then drains a 3. OUCH!!

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    Top of the list must be Jess Kersey for his BS 4 point continuation play for Larry Johnson in the 1999 playoffs vs. Knicks.
    That call is burned in my brain forever as one of the worst.

    Johnson gets barely touched by Antonio Davis, takes a dribble and then drains a 3. OUCH!!
    That was beyond a bad call. That was a deliberately favorable call for the other team. It's calls like that, that support the argument for some sort of accountability for referees.

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    ALL OF THEM.

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    I think a new rule needs to be instituted at all Pacers games. if a fan is going to yell at a ref the whole time. Please learn their name and stop yelling at them using the number on their jersey, it just loses all effectiveness

    The worst ref out there tyoday was not Javie. It was Grillo.

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    I think a new rule needs to be instituted at all Pacers games. if a fan is going to yell at a ref the whole time. Please learn their name and stop yelling at them using the number on their jersey, it just loses all effectiveness

    The worst ref out there tyoday was not Javie. It was Grillo.
    But, that's just the thing, UB. They shouldn't affect the game so much that we know their names.
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    But, that's just the thing, UB. They shouldn't affect the game so much that we know their names.
    EXACTLY!!!

    After the game started and we were getting hosed I turned to Kegboy and said I'd rather have . I would say he couldn't be any worse than Javie, but as soon as I say that he'll throw Reggie out during his last game.

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    Anyone know if NBA.com sells ref jersey's? I'd love to go as my most hated ref for Haloween.
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    Grillo was the more obvious, like that foul he called on Tinsley at half court from the other side of the floor, but Delaney was just as bad. He's got some serious hate going for us this year, and I don't know why.

    Shade's right about us knowing their names. In the NFL the ref addresses the crowd on every call, but the only one I can think of off the top of my head is Ed Hockley, and that's only cause my sister thinks he's hot. (Hell, I'll even admit he's good looking, and I'm only 26% gay. )

    Sometimes I think NBA officiating would be better if they had to turn on a microphone and address the crowd on every call. Make them a bit more accountable.

    And, just in case anyone forgot, the state of NBA officiating is #3 on my list, behind Larry Bird's extortion and Stern.
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    Dick Bavetta

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    The sad thing is that we can name so many of the refs. This says it all. They should not be a part of the game. We should not notice them. But here's my list of the refs I don't like (I put an asterisk by the ones I really, really, do not like and would fire them within a minute if their jobs were ever in my hands).

    6 Jim Clark

    7 Bernie Fryer

    8 Luis Grillo *

    9 Derrick Stafford

    10 Ron Garretson *

    11 Nolan Fine

    12 Don Vaden

    14 Joe DeRosa

    15 Bennett Salvatore **********

    16 Ted Bernhardt

    17 Joey Crawford * (only one asterist because he should have thrown Reggie out with a second tech in his farewell game but didn't)

    18 Mark Wunderlich

    19 James Caspers

    20 Jess Kersey *

    21 Tim Donaghy

    22 Bill Spooner

    23 George Toliver

    24 Mike Callahan

    26 Bob Delaney *

    27 Dick (Knick) Bavetta *

    28 Tommy Nunez (actually one of my favorites)

    29 Steve Javie ***** (should have been fired when making his famous comment to Pat Riley)

    30 Gary Benson

    32 Eddie Rush *

    33 Sean Corbin * (he's too skinny and loses control of games too easily)

    34 Ronnie Nunn *

    35 Jack Nies * (a lousy ref and his son is a drug addict and an sob)

    36 David Jones (I loved The Monkeys)

    37 Blane Reichelt * (Dork)

    38 Michael Smith

    39 Kevin Fehr

    40 Leon Wood *********** (an even worse NBA ref than he was an NBA player-how did Bob Knight keep this guy on the 1984 Olympic Basketball Team?)

    41 Ken Mauer *

    42 Hugh Hollins (no longer reffing but I would keep him-Jordan hated him!)

    43 Dan Crawford *

    44 Ron Olesiak

    45 Joe Forte *

    47 Bennie Adams

    48 Scott Foster

    49 Tom Washington

    51 Leroy Richardson

    52 Pat Fraher

    54 Derrick Collins

    55 Bill Kennedy

    56 Tony Brothers

    57 Greg Willard

    58 Monty McCutchen

    59 Gary Zielinski

    60 Scott Wall

    61 Courtney Kirkland

    62 Michael Henderson

    63 Derrick Richardson

    64 Marc Davis

    66 Violet Palmer ( I like watching games she refs because the players very rarely talk back and let her ref-she is inconsistent but doesn't seem to favor one team)

    67 Jason Phillips

    68 Tony Brown

    70 Phil Robinson

    71 Rodney Mott

    72 Anthony Jordan

    73 Ed Malloy

    74 Matt Boland

    75 Troy Raymond

    79 Zach Zarba

    I don't know how current this list is but I found it here:

    http://www.pistonsconspiracy.com/refs.asp

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    Refs tonight sucked. Sorry, but they did. Did you notice what happened after the Pacers closed it to six?
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    Refs tonight sucked. Sorry, but they did. Did you notice what happened after the Pacers closed it to six?

    I know what happened. We turned it over twice.

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    66 Violet Palmer ( I like watching games she refs because the players very rarely talk back and let her ref
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    Javie and Bob Delaney are two of the better refs.

    Luis Grillo wasn't very good yesterday, but he was bad for both teams.

    Dan Crawford and Joe Crawford are good.

    Jim Clark is good.

    I used to like Leon Wood. I've changed my mind.

    Bavetta, Berhardt, Kersey and Salvatorre all suck. Along with Mike "Fuzzhead" Mathis.
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    Javie and Bob Delaney are two of the better refs.

    Luis Grillo wasn't very good yesterday, but he was bad for both teams.

    Dan Crawford and Joe Crawford are good.

    Jim Clark is good.

    I used to like Leon Wood. I've changed my mind.

    Bavetta, Berhardt, Kersey and Salvatorre all suck. Along with Mike "Fuzzhead" Mathis.

    I can agree with your assessment. Although you left out everyone's favorite. Bevetta.

    I've said in the past that Bevetta is a good offical but he makes a lot of strange calls. he calls a lot of travelling, a lot of offensive fouls. But he'll make the tough calls.

    Every official makes bad calls in every game, but the better refs through their experience know how to control a game. (I know some of your heads are about to explode, "control the game" why not just call it as you see it. That might sound good but there is no way to call every game the same

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    I'd agree with BigMac's asterisks, for the most part, even though my list would probably have asterisks next to all of them. Great call on Corbin, btw.

    There are three you left out I want to focus on, however. Scott Foster, who I never noticed until this year. He officiated a preseason game back in October that was just shockingly bad. I couldn't believe a ref could **** up a preseason game, but he did. I've watched him every time since, and he's awful.

    Second is Tony Brothers, who has a real short fuse. He threw out Isiah in consecutive appearances Zeke's first year.

    Third is Ed Malloy. He used to ref the women, and he was the worst they had. He didn't even call a foul when Ruth Riley broke Tamika's nose right in front of him (talk to a Fever ticketholder and they'll tell you what a horribly dirty play that was. One of the ushers is Ruth's cousin, and he even admitted she should have been tossed.) Of course a year later he got called up to the Bigs.
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    Refs tonight sucked. Sorry, but they did. Did you notice what happened after the Pacers closed it to six?

    We got to within six because of some questionable calls against Detroit.... i was thinking Detroit fans must screamin' at the TV about now, but the officials quickly made up for it....and we were back down by 16pts in a matter of minutes... helped out by a series of questionable calls against us.

    The refs giveth and the refs taketh away.

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    We got to within six because of some questionable calls against Detroit.... i was thinking Detroit fans must screamin' at the TV about now, but the officials quickly made up for it....and we were back down by 16pts in a matter of minutes... helped out by a series of questionable calls against us.

    The refs giveth and the refs taketh away.
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    29 Steve Javie ***** (should have been fired when making his famous comment to Pat Riley)
    What comment was that?

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    [QUOTE=Harmonica]What comment was that?[/QUOTE}

    During the game he told Riley (when coaching) that he and the other refs were loving that fact that he was getting his a$$ handed to him-i.e. that he was losing. I don't remember the exact quote but Javie had to apologize and I believe he was suspended for a time for that comment.

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