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    Kevin Pritchard ready to use aggressive approach on Indiana Pacers' revamp

    INDIANAPOLIS - Kevin Pritchard spent the last six seasons speaking his mind privately.

    He shared his crazy ideas with Larry Bird, occasionally agreed to disagree with the boss, and might have even tried to persuade Bird to be more aggressive with player moves. Now, the Indiana Pacers are about to see if Pritchard can live up to his word.

    "I think you have to be bold in this position," Pritchard said earlier this week after being given the team's president of basketball operations job. "I like interchanging pieces, I like moving around in the draft, I want to be aggressive, I want to make deals."

    Pritchard's attitude may be just what the Pacers need as they enter a transformational offseason.

    He has played this game before, though his wheeling-and-dealing ways cost him the general manager's position in Portland after a little more than three seasons. But the man who was hired to replace Bird acknowledges he's not the same guy who was fired on draft night in 2010.

    Pritchard credits Bird with teaching him about the importance of continuity. After returning to his home state in 2011, Pritchard said he understood that great minds don't always have to think alike - until a final decision is made and then everyone must present a unified front. He developed an affinity for Bird's ability to speak plainly, bluntly and meaningfully, and he's even changing his mind about the thought of Lance Stephenson playing point guard.

    But Pritchard still intends to be aggressive with trades, in free agency and with a budget that even made Bird reconsider his plan to step down as the team's lead decision maker.

    "After seeing next year's budget, I almost want to stay," Bird joked on Monday. "I think he's the right guy."

    While the Pacers have a pretty good notion of what they have in Pritchard, it's the Indiana native who is waiting to see what cards he's dealt.

    Former All-Star point guard Jeff Teague, forwards C.J. Miles and Lavoy Allen, and backup guard Aaron Brooks can all become free agents. Four-time All-Star Paul George has one year left on his contract and could become trade bait if he refuses to commit to playing in Indiana next season. Pritchard said he expects to keep George well beyond 2017-18 and will do almost anything to make it possible.

    That will require Pritchard to put a better supporting cast around George, who has made no secret of his desire to bring the Pacers their first NBA title.

    Pritchard, born in Bloomington, Indiana, grew up in suburban Indianapolis, and understands.

    "This team has been to the playoffs 22 of the last 29 years and we want to be successful," Pritchard said. "The message (from George) was that he wants to win. We want to win. So we're on the same page."

    The conventional wisdom last summer, after the Pacers acquired Teague and forward Thaddeus Young in trades, was that they might be on the cusp of returning to the Eastern Conference finals. Instead, they needed to win their last five regular-season games just to make the playoffs, and were swept by defending champion Cleveland in four games.

    So Pritchard will begin the revamp from inside the organization.

    He's encouraging promising center Myles Turner to come back bigger and stronger. Pritchard wants Stephenson to get healthy so he can energize the Pacers in a way others cannot. Of course, Pritchard wants to re-sign Teague and George, and he wants the Pacers to get back to some of their more traditional traits.

    "Look, we have to be a tougher team," Pritchard said. "We won at home last year, but when you look at what it takes to win on the road, you have to be physical and you have to play tough. So toughness is what I want to add to the team. We used to be known as a lunch pail team, and we have to get that back."

    And now it's Pritchard who must finish the job.

    "As the No. 2 guy, you make all sorts of recommendations and some are crazy, and then you move into this role," he said. "Sometimes, it's OK being the No. 2 guy, too. But Larry and I have had a lot of conversations and he just said `It's time for you."'
    http://www.nba.com/article/2017/05/0...-pacers-revamp
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    Re: Kevin Pritchard ready to use aggressive approach on Indiana Pacers' revamp

    I'll be happy if deals aren't done just to make deals, if there is a clear direction in which he wants this team to go in, and he stays consistent to that approach. Teams who win championships in a small market aren't built in 1, 2, 3, or sometimes even 4 years. In my mind, small yet sustainable improvement is better for this team than trying to do too much at one time. This has burned us in the past, and I hope it doesn't happen under Pritchard's watch.

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    • #3
      Re: Kevin Pritchard ready to use aggressive approach on Indiana Pacers' revamp

      Well, color me excited, whatever color that is. I guess blue and gold.

      Show us what you've got, Pritch!

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        Re: Kevin Pritchard ready to use aggressive approach on Indiana Pacers' revamp

        Originally posted by adamscb View Post
        I'll be happy if deals aren't done just to make deals, if there is a clear direction in which he wants this team to go in, and he stays consistent to that approach. Teams who win championships in a small market aren't built in 1, 2, 3, or sometimes even 4 years. In my mind, small yet sustainable improvement is better for this team than trying to do too much at one time. This has burned us in the past, and I hope it doesn't happen under Pritchard's watch.
        With all due respect to Larry Bird, Pritchard isn't going do a worse job of acquiring players. Bird compiled just about the worst mix of players I have seen in Indiana. Yes, there is some talent. But they fit horribly.

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          Re: Kevin Pritchard ready to use aggressive approach on Indiana Pacers' revamp

          [Pritchard's] even changing his mind about the thought of Lance Stephenson playing point guard.
          That's about the only thing in this article I didn't hear at the press conference. Is this inside information or just inferred from his press conference?
          "Look, it's up to me to put a team around ... Lance right now." —Kevin Pritchard press conference

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          • #6
            Re: Kevin Pritchard ready to use aggressive approach on Indiana Pacers' revamp

            We'll see. Just because he took over doesn't mean that free agents are going to suddenly start beating down the door to play in Indiana.

            This what I got out of it...

            Lance might become the starting PG.
            Paul George won't get traded unless he gets a Godfather deal.
            Turner won't get traded.
            Jefferson and Ellis will be traded.
            He will attempt to obtain another "fiery" player.


            Remember when we could have gotten 1-2 solid players and a possible Top 3 draft pick in the 2017 NBA Draft by trading away Paul George?

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            • #7
              Re: Kevin Pritchard ready to use aggressive approach on Indiana Pacers' revamp

              So far I like what I'm hearing so we'll see. This team needs to get bigger and focus on defense more than offense and this team needs to be more physical.
              Ideally find a starting defensive minded pf/c to rebound and defend against post players along with a starting quality 2/3 to either to give us another shooter on the floor and get bigger there as well. The problem is that we don't have that kind of cap space to play with.
              Why do teams tank? Ask a Spurs fan.

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                Re: Kevin Pritchard ready to use aggressive approach on Indiana Pacers' revamp

                Originally posted by McKeyFan View Post
                That's about the only thing in this article I didn't hear at the press conference. Is this inside information or just inferred from his press conference?
                Lance at backup point guard is exactly where I thought he'd fit next season.

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                  Re: Kevin Pritchard ready to use aggressive approach on Indiana Pacers' revamp

                  Originally posted by Grimp View Post
                  Lance at backup point guard is exactly where I thought he'd fit next season.
                  He will be starting. He will be averaging over 30mpg at starting PG. The keys are being handed over to Lance...

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                    Re: Kevin Pritchard ready to use aggressive approach on Indiana Pacers' revamp

                    Just listened to Pritchard's press conference. He gave a shout out to Noblesville and the Boys Club. That's the first place I played competitive basketball too.

                    Also, considering I knew him as a young man when he lived in Noblesville, I'm pretty proud of where he is today. It was really wild seeing him. I can see the younger version of him that I remembered from almost 40 years ago.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Kevin Pritchard ready to use aggressive approach on Indiana Pacers' revamp

                      I'll probably get critical.comments for saying this lol, but I hope he signs Tyler Hansbrough back. Phsyco T has his limits, but he is another hustle guy who can get the crowd into the game. Tyler was putting up good numbers in the D league. Hopefully he is over the vertigo issues.

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                        Re: Kevin Pritchard ready to use aggressive approach on Indiana Pacers' revamp

                        Originally posted by BlueNGold View Post
                        He will be starting. He will be averaging over 30mpg at starting PG. The keys are being handed over to Lance...
                        And because this is likely the case he needs to shoot a million threes this summer.
                        I have always felt to get the most out of Lance he needs to play point. Early on he was not mature enough to handle it.
                        Now he is.
                        {o,o}
                        |)__)
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                          Re: Kevin Pritchard ready to use aggressive approach on Indiana Pacers' revamp

                          Originally posted by rimrattler View Post
                          I'll probably get critical.comments for saying this lol, but I hope he signs Tyler Hansbrough back. Phsyco T has his limits, but he is another hustle guy who can get the crowd into the game. Tyler was putting up good numbers in the D league. Hopefully he is over the vertigo issues.
                          If I could place money on him being Allen's replacement, I'd do it. I'm guessing he can be had for 3.5 mill

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                            Re: Kevin Pritchard ready to use aggressive approach on Indiana Pacers' revamp

                            Originally posted by owl View Post
                            And because this is likely the case he needs to shoot a million threes this summer.
                            I have always felt to get the most out of Lance he needs to play point. Early on he was not mature enough to handle it.
                            Now he is.
                            While he is still called a wing, I would not be surprised if he took over the PG duties. I don't think the Pacers are going to chase Jeff Teague. Kevin said he wants a tougher team. A bigger team. He gets that with Lance running the point. He doesn't with Monta and Jeff Teague starting. I think the days of a smallish back court are over for good in Indiana.

                            ...and as for shooting I agree. Lance should be shooting a hundred 3's every day if not more. The Pacers should be working on that aspect of his game. At the same time, he shot well in the playoffs. I wonder if he averages 39% for an entire season as opposed to only the playoffs if that will satisfy the detractors.

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                              Re: Kevin Pritchard ready to use aggressive approach on Indiana Pacers' revamp

                              The PR machine is in full off season mode.

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