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    ergh I dont want Pierce at all.

    he had a meltdown to rival ron in the 1st round when his team was in a very good position, which concievably could have cost his team a series. sure he is a talented scorer, reasonable defender and rebounder but I dont like his attitude. he wants to be the primary scorer but seems to get very down on his team when things aren't going his way. no way in hell do we trade ron for him. ron tears him apart one on one, atleast when ron melts down in the playoffs its the ecf and its a lil bit justified.

    i could see memphis offering multiple players for him. i think pierce/gasol could be a very potent combo.

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    ergh I dont want Pierce at all.

    he had a meltdown to rival ron in the 1st round when his team was in a very good position, which concievably could have cost his team a series. sure he is a talented scorer, reasonable defender and rebounder but I dont like his attitude. he wants to be the primary scorer but seems to get very down on his team when things aren't going his way. no way in hell do we trade ron for him. ron tears him apart one on one, atleast when ron melts down in the playoffs its the ecf and its a lil bit justified.

    i could see memphis offering multiple players for him. i think pierce/gasol could be a very potent combo.
    Memphis is a good possibility. A Paul Pierce, Mark Blount, and Marcus Banks for Lorenzen Wright, Jason Williams, James Posey, and a lottery protected 1st rounder works, provided trade rules remain similar. That doesn't seem too outlandish for either team to me.

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    Pierce for Artest? Somebody shoot me.... Ron eats Pierce ALIVE.

    If they're willing to look at Jax and Bender, then let's talk. Of course, I don't think they will be.

    If I was Ainge I'd sit tight. They can have a great team if they keep the pieces together.
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    Ron may eat him alive, but our team will be better than his. The Celtics w/ Artest couldn't handle Pierce AND O'Neal, not to mention Jackson and a healthy Tinsley.

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    Ron may eat him alive, but our team will be better than his. The Celtics w/ Artest couldn't handle Pierce AND O'Neal, not to mention Jackson and a healthy Tinsley.
    same could be said for a pacer team w/ Artest.

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    same could be said for a pacer team w/ Artest.
    Yes, but don't forget with Pierce we have better offense, still good D, and the big obvious: Far, far less risk of incidents, distractions, suspensions from him than Ron.

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    Celtics wont trade Pierce for Ron, but if Ron was to be traded I would love for us to get Pierce.

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    I'm sure DW and LB would have to work up a 3 team deal for Pierce

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    Who do the Knicks have that Ainge would take?
    Why do the things that we treasure most, slip away in time
    Till to the music we grow deaf, to God's beauty blind
    Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
    Till we fall away in our own darkness, a stranger to our own hearts
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    Who knows, Ainge is unpredictable as hell

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    Who wouldn't Isiah take? I'm sure Ainge could swing a crappy deal

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    Marbury!

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    Who wouldn't Isiah take? I'm sure Ainge could swing a crappy deal

    Ahhhh... you missed it... Isiah's taking Ron. We're getting Pierce. I just need to fill in the [blank], as is [blank] goes from NY to Boston.

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    Ahhhh... you missed it... Isiah's taking Ron. We're getting Pierce. I just need to fill in the [blank], as is [blank] goes from NY to Boston.

    That's good for us then...

    WE could swing Isiah a crappy deal?

    Bender - NY
    Pierce - INDY
    and whoever - BOSTON

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    Pierce = not completely bat**** crazy. That's enough for me.

    Unfortunately Ainge isn't stupid either, so this would never go down.

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    Just for fun...

    Indiana Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Scot Pollard
    6-11 C from Kansas
    3.9 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 0.4 apg in 17.6 minutes
    Ron Artest
    6-7 SF from St. Johns
    24.6 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 3.1 apg in 41.6 minutes
    Incoming
    Paul Pierce
    6-6 SF from Kansas
    21.6 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 4.2 apg in 36.1 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -6.9 ppg, -4.0 rpg, and +0.7 apg.

    Boston Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Paul Pierce
    6-6 SF from Kansas
    21.6 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 4.2 apg in 36.1 minutes
    Raef LaFrentz
    6-11 C from Kansas
    11.1 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 1.2 apg in 27.4 minutes
    Incoming
    Scot Pollard
    6-11 C from Kansas
    3.9 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 0.4 apg in 17.6 minutes
    Stephon Marbury
    6-2 PG from Georgia Tech
    21.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 8.2 apg in 40.0 minutes
    Change in team outlook: -7.1 ppg, -6.3 rpg, and +3.2 apg.

    New York Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing
    Stephon Marbury
    6-2 PG from Georgia Tech
    21.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 8.2 apg in 40.0 minutes
    Incoming
    Ron Artest
    6-7 SF from St. Johns
    24.6 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 3.1 apg in 41.6 minutes
    Raef LaFrentz
    6-11 C from Kansas
    11.1 ppg, 6.9 rpg, 1.2 apg in 27.4 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +14.0 ppg, +10.3 rpg, and -3.9 apg.


    Successful Scenario
    Due to Indiana, Boston, and New York being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Indiana, Boston, and New York had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

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    I'll bump this thread next time we play Boston, as Ron destroys Pierce.
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    Whooptie-doo. We didn't already know that.

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    I'll bump this thread next time we play Boston, as Ron destroys Pierce.
    .... on both ends of the floor!

    Sorry, but Larry/Donny would have to be complete idiots to trade Artest straight up for Pierce.

    Folks can complain all they want about Artest and their belief that he has learned nothing in the past six months, but he brings significantly more variety to an offense than Pierce.

    He has a perimeter game, he can slash, he can pass, and definitely unlike Pierce, he can post up any other SF and probably a majority of PFs in the league.

    Defensively, it isn't even close. He has no peer at the SF or SG positions.

    That being said, I'd take Pierce. I just wouldn't trade Artest to get him. If Boston would take a package with SJax, then fine. Otherwise, forget them.

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    I'll bump this thread next time we play Boston, as Ron destroys Pierce.
    I'll bump this thread next time Pierce explodes for one of his best games ever, because Ron was too bone-headed to stay on the court... kind of like this year.
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    Looks like you'll both get opportunities to bump the thread.
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    Let me ask this really stupid question. If Ron did not have any issues, is there anyone who would trade Artest for Pierce.

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    That being said, I'd take Pierce. I just wouldn't trade Artest to get him. If Boston would take a package with SJax, then fine. Otherwise, forget them.
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    Let me ask this really stupid question. If Ron did not have any issues, is there anyone who would trade Artest for Pierce.
    Hell no.

    Remember what Larry Bird said (illustrated in rabidpacerfan's signature), something along the lines of "No one goes through what Ron did and doesn't change". Please, let's just wait to see what we have here before we do any premature deals like this. I'm not going to give up on Ronnie.

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    I think most people are eager to trade Ron is because they want results now. That's why we have such a hard time with Bender. We all want to see the results ASAP.

    We need to do something about BENDER, but we need to give RON a chance before we do anything drastic. I say if he hasn't improved our team by next year's all-star break...THEN WE TRADE HIM.

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